Thread: Human race is a virus.

We can reproduce without the need for a host cell.

The host is Earth

Yea, of course we are a virus. If we bite a dog it becomes a human.

Duh.

"I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure."

Originally Posted by Supernova

"You're a plague and we are the cure."

And who is this we you are talking about?

have you ever see The Matrix?

We are a virus to the earth. I wonder what happens when the earth takes an antibiotic?

Originally Posted by slash112

Yea, of course we are a virus. If we bite a dog it becomes a human.

Duh.

Ok smart ass i didn't mean we were literally a virus. I was pointing out that we are similar to viruses. We destroy where ever we thrive. And like ThatPerson pointed out. The host is earth. Maybe we are more like a parasite than a virus.

Originally Posted by Supernova

"I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure."

You should of wrote -Smith at the end of that quote.

Water and air is recyled, and with the advent of new technologies that can purify and clean water and air, and new methods of running and working with the ecosystem, we can continue consume a great deal without destroying anything. Eventually we will get to the point, where we can reuse or recreated all natural resources, and we can live without using up anything.

Humans are more like a parasite. We are like the ones where you get all creeped out by the idea of having a parasite inside you, because its all disgusting, yet at the same time doesn't really do any major harm.

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

Ok smart ass i didn't mean we were literally a virus. I was pointing out that we are similar to viruses. We destroy where ever we thrive. And like ThatPerson pointed out. The host is earth. Maybe we are more like a parasite than a virus.

lol it wasn't even a smart comment. a virus doesn't transform its host into itself.

BradysDreaming has a good analogy though, humans have absolutly colonised every square mile of earth, soon we will even begin to infect other hosts, in the local vicinity such as the moon and mars. and spread throughout space, like a virus. We even have spores (spacecraft). I'm not sure what the best term is, virus perhaps, personally I think it's most like Mold. Mold colonises where it has the resources to replicate, it spores onto other places of resource.

Then go kill yourselves if you feel so bad about the whole thing. The horde does not want you.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

Then go kill yourselves if you feel so bad about the whole thing. The horde does not want you.

Lmao

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

Then go kill yourselves if you feel so bad about the whole thing. The horde does not want you.

Nah i don't feel bad, it is just the way we are. We can all go green but that would just be delaying the process, not stoping it. And when we have completely destroyed this planet we will spread to another one. Maybe this process has happened before, maybe there are more humans out there in the universe?

Originally Posted by Alric

Water and air is recyled, and with the advent of new technologies that can purify and clean water and air, and new methods of running and working with the ecosystem, we can continue consume a great deal without destroying anything. Eventually we will get to the point, where we can reuse or recreated all natural resources, and we can live without using up anything.

What fantasy world do you live in?

I was just kiding about my post. I was just pointing out how we would technicaly not be viruses. He he. How man kind lives and grow beyond what the environtment can hold is very much like a virus. I think it could be possible for humans to come to equilibrium with the rest of the planet but not without levaling off population growth and large advances in technology so basicly we will run out of resorces befor we stop over consoming them.

lol it wasn't even a smart comment. a virus doesn't transform its host into itself.

It sort of does. Not the whole thing but the new viruses are actualy made out of the material from the host cell.

Originally Posted by Thatperson

BradysDreaming has a good analogy though, humans have absolutly colonised every square mile of earth, soon we will even begin to infect other hosts, in the local vicinity such as the moon and mars. and spread throughout space, like a virus. We even have spores (spacecraft). I'm not sure what the best term is, virus perhaps, personally I think it's most like Mold. Mold colonises where it has the resources to replicate, it spores onto other places of resource.

Fungi is the term you're thinking of. Dannon posted a very fascinating video about fungi in Extended Discussion, check it out.

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

Ok smart ass i didn't mean we were literally a virus. I was pointing out that we are similar to viruses. We destroy where ever we thrive. And like ThatPerson pointed out. The host is earth. Maybe we are more like a parasite than a virus.

What do we destroy? The Earth? In that case, I've got a question: If the Earth is destroyed and nobody is around to give a shit, is it really a bad thing? Other life forms, then? Newsflash: All animals destroy other life forms to thrive. Humans are just more effective and efficient. Now, I don't think humans should go around destroying things for their own short-term gain if it can be avoided, but I don't like the implication that the Earth would somehow be "better" or "healthier" if not for the human race. It's a stupid analogy.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

What do we destroy? The Earth? In that case, I've got a question: If the Earth is destroyed and nobody is around to give a shit, is it really a bad thing? Other life forms, then? Newsflash: All animals destroy other life forms to thrive. Humans are just more effective and efficient. Now, I don't think humans should go around destroying things for their own short-term gain if it can be avoided, but I don't like the implication that the Earth would somehow be "better" or "healthier" if not for the human race. It's a stupid analogy.

We are a plague. Embrace it don't deny it.

Originally Posted by allensig3654

I wonder what happens when the earth takes an antibiotic?

It already did.

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

Ok smart ass i didn't mean we were literally a virus. I was pointing out that we are similar to viruses. We destroy where ever we thrive. And like ThatPerson pointed out. The host is earth. Maybe we are more like a parasite than a virus.

"We" (meaning human beings in general) don't destroy wherever we thrive. There are certain cultures of human that destroy wherever they thrive. There are also civilizations that have been around since the dawn of man (figure of speech), who are very much in harmony with nature and sew what they reap.

Ironically, we tend to call them "primitive" and "uncivilized". But they are no less human, and do not fit the "virus" analogy.

It is very unlikely that humans could ever destroy the earth. The vast majority of time we talk about destroying the earth, we talk about killing off all humans on the planet. Chances are even if we destroy all humans, the earth is going to go on just fine, and life will continue.

All the cockroaches and bugs, fungis, stuff living and the bottom and the sea and stuff like that are going to survive just fine. If the earth was a living being, it probably couldn't care less about what we do.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

Newsflash: All animals destroy other life forms to thrive. Humans are just more effective and efficient. Now, I don't think humans should go around destroying things for their own short-term gain if it can be avoided, but I don't like the implication that the Earth would somehow be "better" or "healthier" if not for the human race. It's a stupid analogy.

That is not entirely correct. Many organisms develop a symbiotic relationship with their environment or host. Humans are indeed, parasitic...and not very good ones, as even most parasites understand that killing their host is a bad idea for survival. Besides what matters is not that humans must kill other life forms to survive, what matters is that we are destroying the environment, which is the earth, our host.

How is it a stupid analogy? Depending on how you look at the human race (as Oneironaut has suggested all humanity is not a bad thing that directly destroys its environment)...however presently this is the case, and considering that we continue to use up all the natural resources and harm the environment...it is very easy to view the human race as a virus. When you remove a virus from a system, the system does become healthier.

Though it might be better to say that merely removing the technology, and having people go back to natural ways of living would be fine...humans can live without killing their environment. So removing all humans won't necessarily make the earth better, just removing our means to destroy the environment.

Originally Posted by Alric

It is very unlikely that humans could ever destroy the earth. The vast majority of time we talk about destroying the earth, we talk about killing off all humans on the planet. Chances are even if we destroy all humans, the earth is going to go on just fine, and life will continue.

All the cockroaches and bugs, fungis, stuff living and the bottom and the sea and stuff like that are going to survive just fine. If the earth was a living being, it probably couldn't care less about what we do.

Well that depends on how you would define "destroying the earth". If to you this means the complete destruction of the planet to the point that no organism could continue to survive, then sure, it is unlikely that humans could completely destroy the earth. I mean, just look at all the organisms we are currently discovering on our planet that live in the most extreme conditions and manage to thrive. But if you consider destroying the planet to mean, merely making it unfit for human habitation, obviously, this is a very real possibility. So while I do agree with you, I'm not sure what point it makes exactly, considering the latter definition is the only one that seems relevant to this particular discussion.

I wonder what happens when the earth takes an antibiotic?

antibiotics have no effect on viruses...sadly