When you say, "can something create itself", you are assuming that there was a beginning. |
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Why does existence exist? |
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When you say, "can something create itself", you are assuming that there was a beginning. |
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" At the quantum level nothing of the material world is left intact. It is strange enough to hold up your hand and realize that it is actually, at a deeper level, invisible vibrations taking place in a void. Even at the atomic level all objects are revealed as mostly empty space. On its own scale, the distance between a whirling electron and the nucleas it revolves around is wider than the distance between the earth and the sun. But you could never capture that electron anyway, since it too breaks down into energy vibrations that wink in and out of existence millions of times per second. Therefore the whole universe is a quantum mirage....." ~ Deepak Chopra |
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"Nothing" indeed is something, unless you are referring to space, which gives the illusion of nothing. How can we really know what nothing is. How do we know we're not already in nothing, but see it as something? These are pointless questions, really, lol. |
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naturals are what we call people who did all the right things accidentally
When I say, "nothing," I am not merely refering to space. Space is a form of existence. If it were nothing, there wouldn't be anything separating matter from other matter. There would be no distance between Earth and the moon or the particles of them from each other. I am asking why anything at all exists, even words. If "nothing" is a form of existence, then why does even it exist? What is even more bizarre is that an infinite number of things exist. If it is all a mirage, why does the mirage exist? If it is all in the mind, why does the mind exist? It is a difficult question to answer and a difficult question to even ask. I don't suggest in any way that I know the answer. I am just asking an open ended question to see what kind of responses I might get. I've gotten some interesting responses so far. I really liked Chopra's point. |
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Strangely enough, its fully possible for a fish to spontaneously to jump out of a wall, just as it is possible for you to walk right through a wall (given enough attempts of course, if you walked into a wall once a second for 14 billion years you still probably wouldn't have made it through). It's also possible for a horse, or a boat or a universe to spontaneously pop into existence. Cool stuff eh? |
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I think that when you start to question the origin of the universe and creation is when the topic starts to move off of scientific things like the behavior of particles and empty space and form.... I think this is where the question of religion or faith, or lack thereof comes into play......... |
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I don't understand how uncaused events could be possible. The chances of a fish spontaneously jumping out of a wall when there was no fish in the wall and the fish would have suffocated even if it had been may be incredibly miniscule if it were possible, but I don't see how it is even possible, and I have never come across anything that even fits into the category of such sponataneity. I have come across zillions of events in my 33 years, but nothing like that. I can't even explain how it could ever be the case. Existence as I have known it has always involved only things that fit into cause/effect chains. The probability of the fish scenario would be small, but there are an infinite number of such hypotheticals, so it seems that such things would be happening constantly. If cause is not necessary, what would put a cap on the happenings of uncaused events? |
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Quantum physics shows us that objects can appear out of nothing and then disappear back into nothing. In empty space, so called "virtual particles" are continuously appearing and disappearing. This is a real and measurable process. They are called virtual particles because they almost always appear with their anti-matter counterpart and almost instantaneously annihilate each other. |
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wow, im very interested into all this kinda stuff, despite my lack of any knowledge about it lol |
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I've often contemplated this thinking about god as an entity. If god made the universe from nothing than who made god from nothing. How could anything come from nothing, before there were any quantum reactions at all when nothing existed not even space. How could anything come from nothing. Absoluetely nothing, no color no space no particles no quantum theory. There is no answer, it's beyond our understanding I believe. It just doesn't work. How could anything come from absoluetly nothing |
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