Thread: Does nonexistence exist?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

The truth is somewhere in there. I almost feel like I can touch my immortality and the fact that I have always existed, as you have. We are the same being. Mount Rushmore and Neptune are that same being too. Only one thing exists, and it always has and always will. That's good news!

Unsure. Look around you, the world is divided and on a practical level you will continue to see it as such. The world is divided, the whole point of division or non division is based on our understanding and conceptualisation of reality; and it is in this way that we understand the world. Ontologically we concieve of the world and fundamentally and intrinsically imagine in forms of division. "The way things are" as I can only assume you are referring to truth as, comes solely from our empirical observation thus far, and we concieve in the earlier mentioned ontological fashion, meaning that to make some kind of 'truth statement' of the way things are which then contradicts your empirical given understanding of truth then becomes a wary statement: As in a seeming presumption rooting originally yes from empirical method and understanding but adopting a concept that grows out from within a divided conception; this obviously can be directly applied to the statement that "all is one". Its about personal definition so much as genuine truth value; I suppose. The actual way in which we are concieving of the world is changing; but based on earlier presumptions contradictory to our newer conception, but what can even be said of that without coming immediately from our conception. Either way it makes it slightly troublesome to make such a statement, if not strictly 'wrong' or 'right' as we are generally led to accept those definitions.

Originally Posted by Serkat

This is the first (and perhaps last) time I've ever agreed with really.

LOL

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

The truth is somewhere in there. I almost feel like I can touch my immortality and the fact that I have always existed, as you have. We are the same being. Mount Rushmore and Neptune are that same being too. Only one thing exists, and it always has and always will. That's good news!

I'm quite surprised that there is someone here agreeing with me! That is quite odd!

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Unsure. Look around you, the world is divided and on a practical level you will continue to see it as such. The world is divided, the whole point of division or non division is based on our understanding and conceptualisation of reality; and it is in this way that we understand the world. Ontologically we concieve of the world and fundamentally and intrinsically imagine in forms of division. "The way things are" as I can only assume you are referring to truth as, comes solely from our empirical observation thus far, and we concieve in the earlier mentioned ontological fashion, meaning that to make some kind of 'truth statement' of the way things are which then contradicts your empirical given understanding of truth then becomes a wary statement: As in a seeming presumption rooting originally yes from empirical method and understanding but adopting a concept that grows out from within a divided conception; this obviously can be directly applied to the statement that "all is one". Its about personal definition so much as genuine truth value; I suppose. The actual way in which we are concieving of the world is changing; but based on earlier presumptions contradictory to our newer conception, but what can even be said of that without coming immediately from our conception. Either way it makes it slightly troublesome to make such a statement, if not strictly 'wrong' or 'right' as we are generally led to accept those definitions.

Sorry, but can you explain that in a different way? I'm not understanding you.