Thread: Does nonexistence exist?

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Once again I find myself living in my own paradigm.

By the way, we all live in our own paradigms (removing any similarities). I understand your point, but I'd like to add that every single person has a very unique consciousness and understanding of life.

The paradigm of one's awareness is related to the level of consciousness, as awareness is intrinsic to consciousness. The point here is, with higher awareness, are there less problems - and importantly, a wider recognition of Truth. This is because the context or paradigm of awareness becomes expansive to hold greater meaning in the walks of life. Einstein recognized that if there is a reoccurring problem, one's level of consciousness must expand to a greater context to thereafter comprehend greater meaning.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Hmmm... Existence is eternal, and I am nothing other than existence. So the only thing that I am is eternal. I am eternal.

Yayy!

Originally Posted by really

Yayy!

The truth is somewhere in there. I almost feel like I can touch my immortality and the fact that I have always existed, as you have. We are the same being. Mount Rushmore and Neptune are that same being too. Only one thing exists, and it always has and always will. That's good news!

This is the first (and perhaps last) time I've ever agreed with really.

Nonexistence is a concept, so whether or not it "exists" depends on the semantic scope of the word "exist". Is it limited to the physical, or does it include other realms? Does the color "red" exist under this definition? It also depends on the meaning of concept. Is it simply referring to a mental item, or is it referring to something external that the mind has a representation of? Combining these two questions, you get the answer to your original question.

My answer would be no, since you are referring to "nonexistence" as an external concept and I don't believe that ideas exist outside of minds.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

The truth is somewhere in there. I almost feel like I can touch my immortality and the fact that I have always existed, as you have. We are the same being. Mount Rushmore and Neptune are that same being too. Only one thing exists, and it always has and always will. That's good news!

Unsure. Look around you, the world is divided and on a practical level you will continue to see it as such. The world is divided, the whole point of division or non division is based on our understanding and conceptualisation of reality; and it is in this way that we understand the world. Ontologically we concieve of the world and fundamentally and intrinsically imagine in forms of division. "The way things are" as I can only assume you are referring to truth as, comes solely from our empirical observation thus far, and we concieve in the earlier mentioned ontological fashion, meaning that to make some kind of 'truth statement' of the way things are which then contradicts your empirical given understanding of truth then becomes a wary statement: As in a seeming presumption rooting originally yes from empirical method and understanding but adopting a concept that grows out from within a divided conception; this obviously can be directly applied to the statement that "all is one". Its about personal definition so much as genuine truth value; I suppose. The actual way in which we are concieving of the world is changing; but based on earlier presumptions contradictory to our newer conception, but what can even be said of that without coming immediately from our conception. Either way it makes it slightly troublesome to make such a statement, if not strictly 'wrong' or 'right' as we are generally led to accept those definitions.

Originally Posted by Serkat

This is the first (and perhaps last) time I've ever agreed with really.

LOL

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

The truth is somewhere in there. I almost feel like I can touch my immortality and the fact that I have always existed, as you have. We are the same being. Mount Rushmore and Neptune are that same being too. Only one thing exists, and it always has and always will. That's good news!

I'm quite surprised that there is someone here agreeing with me! That is quite odd!

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Unsure. Look around you, the world is divided and on a practical level you will continue to see it as such. The world is divided, the whole point of division or non division is based on our understanding and conceptualisation of reality; and it is in this way that we understand the world. Ontologically we concieve of the world and fundamentally and intrinsically imagine in forms of division. "The way things are" as I can only assume you are referring to truth as, comes solely from our empirical observation thus far, and we concieve in the earlier mentioned ontological fashion, meaning that to make some kind of 'truth statement' of the way things are which then contradicts your empirical given understanding of truth then becomes a wary statement: As in a seeming presumption rooting originally yes from empirical method and understanding but adopting a concept that grows out from within a divided conception; this obviously can be directly applied to the statement that "all is one". Its about personal definition so much as genuine truth value; I suppose. The actual way in which we are concieving of the world is changing; but based on earlier presumptions contradictory to our newer conception, but what can even be said of that without coming immediately from our conception. Either way it makes it slightly troublesome to make such a statement, if not strictly 'wrong' or 'right' as we are generally led to accept those definitions.

Sorry, but can you explain that in a different way? I'm not understanding you.