Thread: Gods Cannot Have Consciousness

Who makes these "God has consciousness" claims? I never hear them. Actually, how can God "have" anything?

Originally Posted by really

Who makes these "God has consciousness" claims? I never hear them. Actually, how can God "have" anything?

Any Christian will say that God has a conscious process that has decided several ethical claims.

I am not speaking of any other God.

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Originally Posted by O'nus

Any Christian will say that God has a conscious process that has decided several ethical claims.

I am not speaking of any other God.

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Though I get your point, don't you say "any".

Not really. I wouldn't say that (I was a Christian).

Literally, Christian is a name. Not all people called Christians, know God the same.

Originally Posted by really

Though I get your point, don't you say "any".

Not really. I wouldn't say that (I was a Christian).

Literally, Christian is a name. Not all people called Christians, know God the same.

lol ok.. we can become pedantic about the wording, but you get the overall argument.

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Originally Posted by really

Not all people called Christians, know God the same.

lol, indeed. The different sects of Christianity, depending on which you talk about, can have remarkably different views on God. Arianism, which is it's own kind of Christianity, denies the idea of the trinity, isn't that right? Not to get off topic or anything. I'm overdue for my own special thread, aren't I.... Trying to keep up with my university papers is my excuse, alright? Alright.

Originally Posted by O'nus

lol ok.. we can become pedantic about the wording, but you get the overall argument.

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I am pedantic; wording is important. "Any Christian" is nothing like "Some Christians I know."

Originally Posted by invader_tech

lol, indeed. The different sects of Christianity, depending on which you talk about, can have remarkably different views on God. Arianism, which is it's own kind of Christianity, denies the idea of the trinity, isn't that right?

Yeah, but I don't really pay attention to those "sub-groups." That wasn't my point, but you can still count that, I guess. I think "God-views" are quite broad, people can be Christians and believe, say for example, that God punishes them. Ask another Christian, and they understand that God is Love and punishment is not the case.

Arianism has something to do with the Father and Son, though I don't quite understand it.

Originally Posted by really

Arianism has something to do with the Father and Son, though I don't quite understand it.

If I'm not mistaken, it denies the whole concept of the holy spirit and son as being a part of God. They believe in a single God that is one in essence, as opposed to other Christians who believe that God either divides his spirit or his appearance between the aspects of the Trinity (the trinity was a concept they stole from paganism anyways), or what have you. Does that make sense? In this case, Arianism is a Christian branch that behaves more like Judaism and Islam in terms of how they perceive God as a being.

Originally Posted by invader_tech

If I'm not mistaken, it denies the whole concept of the holy spirit and son as being a part of God. They believe in a single God that is one in essence, as opposed to other Christians who believe that God either divides his spirit or his appearance between the aspects of the Trinity (the trinity was a concept they stole from paganism anyways), or what have you. Does that make sense? In this case, Arianism is a Christian branch that behaves more like Judaism and Islam in terms of how they perceive God as a being.

Ah yeah, cool. Makes sense.

From my good old "New Oxford American Dictionary":

Arianism |ˈe(ə)rēəˌnizəm|
noun Christian Theology
an influential heresy denying the divinity of Christ, originating with the Alexandrian priest Arius ( c. 250– c. 336). Arianism maintained that the Son of God was created by the Father and was therefore neither coeternal with the Father, nor consubstantial.