Thread: obama killer?

it's basically this, obama is for infanticide. you saw the definition. now it is not neccesarily what he is doing, but what he is not doing and what he has said. he has repeatedly voted no on the born alive infant protection act, or BAIPA. he also said,

"Babies who survive abortions are not protected by the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution. What we are doing here is to create one more burden on women, and I can't support that."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=45553

he (now openly) says that basically it is okay to have a baby and provide no care for it, just let it die because it is a burden. so basically this is how it would go down. i get pregnant. i say "hey you know i don't want this child." i then try to have an abortion. abortion does not work.. i have the baby and let it die. yeah that's very moral right?

if you want to know more, just go to, http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...fanticide.html
or
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=45553

he has his arguments, but no matter how good of arguments he may come up with, it is no excuse for murder.

Originally Posted by aorozco

it's basically this, obama is for infanticide. you saw the definition...

if you want to know more, just go to, http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...fanticide.html...

You apparently either didn't read, or didn't properly digest your own source on this. Directly on the factcheck page as the writer is drawing his conclusions (emphasis mine):

What we can say is that many other people – perhaps most – think of "infanticide" as the killing of an infant that would otherwise live. And there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion. Illinois compiled statute 720 ILCS 510/6 states that physicians performing abortions when the fetus is viable must use the procedure most likely to preserve the fetus' life; must be attended by another physician who can care for a born-alive infant; and must "exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy termination which was not an abortion." Failure to do any of the above is considered a felony.

Originally Posted by skysaw

You apparently either didn't read, or didn't properly digest your own source on this. Directly on the factcheck page as the writer is drawing his conclusions (emphasis mine):

true true. yet at the same time, why did he say such thing as he did on my other source. once again, "Babies who survive abortions are not protected by the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution." uumm, obviously, there's something wrong with that.

Originally Posted by aorozco

true true. yet at the same time, why did he say such thing as he did on my other source. once again, "Babies who survive abortions are not protected by the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution." uumm, obviously, there's something wrong with that.

That was not an Obama quote, but rather a summary the author Jill Stanek gave that included monumental spin. Here is Obama's actual quote (listed on her page):

...whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a – child, a 9-month-old – child that was delivered to term. …

Just how she thinks that "previable" means "babies who survive abortions" is a mystery to me. It should be one to you as well, but perhaps you didn't know the meaning of previable (from dictionary.com):

Main Entry: pre·vi·able
Pronunciation: -'vI-&-b&l
Function: adjective
: not sufficiently developed to survive outside the uterus previable fetus

Perhaps Ms. Stanek could attempt to explain how a fetus that is unable to survive means a baby that did survive?

Um...aorozoco...Obama simply supports "Pro Choice"...how does that make him a baby killer when it's the females deciding what to do with their bodies and babies...not him...

Good to see Skysaw has everything under control here. I just heard something about this earlier today. It is amazing that people have enough bile in them to propogate something so hatefully false.

(I'm not referring to you, aorozco, but your irresponsible sources )

sorry i took so long to respond, i just got to a computer today...
nways,

i seee your point sky. i looked at a couple more articles on this. i see what you mean and i will apologize for my mistake of inferring on a article that was not neccesarily a great source.
but i will stick to one thing and that is, opposition of abortion, which is already going on in another thread so discuss there. my bad.