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      Quote Originally Posted by superlox3 View Post
      This is entirely true and false at the same time. There is absolutely no way of proving this, but I do believe that we see similar things for the following reason:

      When we see things, we see gradients. We are not told to associate gradients with one another, we do because they are similar. Everyone sees the same gradients, and therefore associates the colors with warmth, coldness and other aspects. However, if we see the gradients as gradual gradients, as I'm sure most of us do, then we must be seeing similar colors or at least different colors on a different position on the color wheel. The final option is that some people have inverted color vision; what we see is the inverse of what some other people may see.

      But then again...we have absolutely no way of proving this.

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      Sorry if that was a bit confusing; but I'll try to straighten things out. It will probably sound redundant, but it will be less complicated.

      -Colors are made of gradients, and we see these
      -Gradients of colors are similar to the gradients around that color on the color wheel
      -Since we all see gradual gradients, we must be seeing the same gradients as everyone else. Otherwise our vision would have lots of splashes of different colors
      -This means that everyone people can see the same as you, inverted to you, or at a different position on the color wheel
      -A different position on the color wheel means that they will still see the gradients, but just as different colors. Things will still be relative to the colors and they can still be able to associate them.
      -If they didn't follow these three things, then they would have a hard time associating colors with other colors; as everything would be mixed and sploched.
      Beautifully explained. I was going to say something similar, but in much clumsier sentences ("When people look at a spectrum, the colors flow together in a certain manner" ... "When two colors mix, their result appears to be a logical mesh of the two originals, whereas if my blue was your orange, mixing red and blue labeled paint would produce an unexpected color to you.")

      But I understand the nature of this thread. No doubt that based on our slightly different genetic coding (not only pertaining to the coding of the cones of the eyes themselves, but also the the neurons which transmit, as well as the structure of the occipital lobe that interprets), we most likely see color differently, though not to an extreme yellow-is-blue degree (well, except for those with certain colorblindness!). With this difference is perception, however slight it may be, it alludes to another conclusion: each consciousness experiences uniquely.
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      i can see where you guys are coming from. this all makes me wonder even more what people with synesthesia see and feel. i wish i had that.


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      this all makes me wonder even more what people with synesthesia see and feel
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia
      there are pictures that show what people with synesthesia see

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      THIS thread did a better job illustrating this idea.


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      well, im sorry we are not illustrating it good enough for you. I will try harder next time.


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      I'm just saying, all your questions are already more eloquently answered there...

      A statement of fact requires no need for an apology...

      Case in point...The inclusion of this image for starters...
      Last edited by Cyclic13; 02-01-2008 at 05:29 AM.


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