Thread: The True History Of Mankind - Because you can handle the truth!!

Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID

Plato wrote The Allegory of the Cave using the Socratic Method, a dialog between a teacher and student. It is taken from a larger work entitled the Republic. Here is a very, very brief summary:

Suppose that there is a group of people who have lived their entire lives trapped in a cave lit by a large fire behind them. Chained in place, these people can see nothing but shadows projected on a wall in front of them. They cannot truly comprehend what they see, since they are prevented from grasping its true source and nature.

Now suppose that one of these human beings manages to break the chains, climb through the passage, and escape the cave. With eyes accustomed only to the dim light of the cave, this individual will at first be blinded by the brightness of the world. But after some time and effort, he will become able to appreciate the beauty of the world.

Finally, suppose that this escapee returns to the cave, trying to persuade the others that there is another, better, real world than the one in the cave. They are unlikely to be impressed by his pleas, especially since, having travelled to the bright surface world, he is now clumsy in the dim cave.

So wait, what Plato meant that the cave was actually your asshole, and the fire in it was actually a big black penis? Now it makes sense.

Just what do you think this league of all powerful fat cats is plotting? How would it change your life, even if you found concrete evidence that this is true?

You do know that you are already not in control of your life? You already have a ruling government that is out of your control, even without this nonsense.

The new world order conspiracy is rediculous. Not because it is impossible, but because it is meaningless. There is no point to it. A bunch of people having secret meetings trying to make the world a better place? Ooh, scary. Those same people are already having public meetings to try and make the world a better place.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

Those same people are already having public meetings to try and make the world a better place.

Baaaawaaaahaaaahaaaahaaaahaaaaaaaaa! As bugs would say, "What a Maroon!!"

Here are two links for you, FOREVERLUCID:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

Here are two links for you, FOREVERLUCID:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia

Do you really think I'm as clueless as to what wikpedia is all about? Do you actually believe what that disinfo site has to say?



See Who's Editing Wikipedia - Diebold, the CIA, a Campaign

By John Borland 08.14.07

CalTech graduate student Virgil Griffith built a search tool that traces IP addresses of those who make Wikipedia changes.
Photo: Jake Appelbaum



On November 17th, 2005, an anonymous Wikipedia user deleted 15 paragraphs from an article on e-voting machine-vendor Diebold, excising an entire section critical of the company's machines. While anonymous, such changes typically leave behind digital fingerprints offering hints about the contributor, such as the location of the computer used to make the edits.

In this case, the changes came from an IP address reserved for the corporate offices of Diebold itself. And it is far from an isolated case. A new data-mining service launched Monday traces millions of Wikipedia entries to their corporate sources, and for the first time puts comprehensive data behind longstanding suspicions of manipulation, which until now have surfaced only piecemeal in investigations of specific allegations.

Wikipedia Scanner -- the brainchild of Cal Tech computation and neural-systems graduate student Virgil Griffith -- offers users a searchable database that ties millions of anonymous Wikipedia edits to organizations where those edits apparently originated, by cross-referencing the edits with data on who owns the associated block of internet IP addresses.

Inspired by news last year that Congress members' offices had been editing their own entries, Griffith says he got curious, and wanted to know whether big companies and other organizations were doing things in a similarly self-interested vein.

"Everything's better if you do it on a huge scale, and automate it," he says with a grin.

This database is possible thanks to a combination of Wikipedia policies and (mostly) publicly available information.

The online encyclopedia allows anyone to make edits, but keeps detailed logs of all these changes. Users who are logged in are tracked only by their user name, but anonymous changes leave a public record of their IP address.


Share Your Sleuthing!

Cornered any companies polishing up their Wikipedia entries? Spotted any government spooks rewriting history? Try Virgil Griffith's Wikipedia Scanner yourself, then submit your finds and vote on other readers' discoveries here.

The organization also allows downloads of the complete Wikipedia, including records of all these changes.

Griffith thus downloaded the entire encyclopedia, isolating the XML-based records of anonymous changes and IP addresses. He then correlated those IP addresses with public net-address lookup services such as ARIN, as well as private domain-name data provided by IP2Location.com.

The result: A database of 34.4 million edits, performed by 2.6 million organizations or individuals ranging from the CIA to Microsoft to Congressional offices, now linked to the edits they or someone at their organization's net address has made.

Some of this appears to be transparently self-interested, either adding positive, press release-like material to entries, or deleting whole swaths of critical material.

Voting-machine company Diebold provides a good example of the latter, with someone at the company's IP address apparently deleting long paragraphs detailing the security industry's concerns over the integrity of their voting machines, and information about the company's CEO's fund-raising for President Bush.

The text, deleted in November 2005, was quickly restored by another Wikipedia contributor, who advised the anonymous editor, "Please stop removing content from Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism."
A Diebold Election Systems spokesman said he'd look into the matter but could not comment by press time.

Wal-Mart has a series of relatively small changes in 2005 that that burnish the company's image on its own entry while often leaving criticism in, changing a line that its wages are less than other retail stores to a note that it pays nearly double the minimum wage, for example. Another leaves activist criticism on community impact intact, while citing a "definitive" study showing Wal-Mart raised the total number of jobs in a community.


Helllooo!!! Present moment reality to Robot_Butler!!! Holy frick, wake the freak up!!

Long sighhhhhh. Better yet, just go back to sleep!!

So, what you are saying is, your paranoia is making you suspicious of the wikipedia definition of paranoia?

I think you need to get out of the house a little more. Go see how the world really works. Don't just read about it on misinformation websites.

I think most NWO theoris are mostly deus ex machina. People who do not have a firm understanding on world history look for a simple explanation to it. Their ignorance makes them incapable of understanding the whole context that created an event, so they jump to a simple and impossible solution. There must be a secret group of people with an evil agenda who are causing all bad events to occur.

This is similar to the creationist arguement against evolution. Their ignorance makes evolution seem too complicated for them to personally understand, so they come up with a simpler solution. There must be an all powerful being who is directing it all.

This is just human nature. We create a model to simplify and try to understand things. In both cases, a little education goes a long way. A little research into history or biology will help you form a realistic model of what makes things tick.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

So, what you are saying is, your paranoia is making you suspicious of the wikipedia definition of paranoia?

I think you need to get out of the house a little more. Go see how the world really works. Don't just read about it on misinformation websites.

I think most NWO theoris are mostly deus ex machina. People who do not have a firm understanding on world history look for a simple explanation to it. Their ignorance makes them incapable of understanding the whole context that created an event, so they jump to a simple and impossible solution. There must be a secret group of people with an evil agenda who are causing all bad events to occur.

This is similar to the creationist arguement against evolution. Their ignorance makes evolution seem too complicated for them to personally understand, so they come up with a simpler solution. There must be an all powerful being who is directing it all.

This is just human nature. We create a model to simplify and try to understand things. In both cases, a little education goes a long way. A little research into history or biology will help you form a realistic model of what makes things tick.

Ah, yeah, okay!!

Originally Posted by Neruo

So wait, what Plato meant that the cave was actually your asshole, and the fire in it was actually a big black penis? Now it makes sense.

Wow, what were you reading? I think you need to visit your optometrist, ASAP

Originally Posted by Neruo

So wait, what Plato meant that the cave was actually your asshole, and the fire in it was actually a big black penis? Now it makes sense.

Don't dwell in these forums...

The many people who are unaware of the energies surrounding them, often dwell in internet forums longer than it is healthy.

What they don't recognize is, how much negative energy resides here.

Most people in today's internet forums express their negative energies in posts, which is now becoming very obvious too in these Lucid Dreaming Forums.

If you look at what kind of threads get the most posts, you will find that these threads are often those who carry nonsensical matter that is often heavily debated. The outcome is pure negativity with not even a result.

Simply by reading these posts, people need to understand that they are picking up the negative energy which was projected into the text by their respective authors. In other words, if you read a thread including it's dozens of comments you consume a total energetic chaos and even worse the fact that most of the comments by now, are of a negative nature.


This is what people need to realize, therefore stay aware from argumentatons and confrontations in the internet. Avoid reading unnecessary comments and stop dealing with people of a lesser understanding than your own. People should agree to disagree, rather than falling to the energetic traps set all over the internet.


Ciao For Now!!

AHAHA. Way to post the same response to 2 different things in 2 different threads. And it's even better cause both are about penisses. AHAHAA. "negative energy" is what you make of it. If you take peoples insulsts and negative comments seriously, than yeah these forums can be bad, but who really gives that much of a fuck.

I'm starting to enjoy your stupidity man. It gives the atheists and then zen fools on this website a common enemy. Like richard nixon or something.