Thread: The True History Of Mankind - Because you can handle the truth!!

"Some of it may have evolved. However, there's no doubt most of it is intentional. When you go in again into the history books and you realize just how long big meetings, world meetings in a sense have been held comprising of the wealthy families and their control over their countries. Mainly these families even in Europe are all related to each other, regardless of the countries they live in. They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."

Quote by "Alan Watt"

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"New World Order conspiracies are a pile of bullshit".

Quote by "George Ouzounian".

Based, solely, on the credentials of those quoted; I'd say that's FOREVERLUCID - 1, Xei - O.

Can you do any better than quoting Maddox, of all people, Xei?

Maddox, while hilarious, is not the best source for arguing your points. Thinking that New World Conspiracies are bullshit is exactly what the conspirators would want you to think, no? While I think that these New World Conspiracies hold truth, they are probably over exaggerated.

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

Maddox, while hilarious, is not the best source for arguing your points. Thinking that New World Conspiracies are bullshit is exactly what the conspirators would want you to think, no? While I think that these New World Conspiracies hold truth, they are probably over exaggerated.

maddox speaks the truth. Thery are about 70% bullshit. They have a lot less power than most people give credit

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Based, solely, on the credentials of those quoted; I'd say that's FOREVERLUCID - 1, Xei - O.

Can you do any better than quoting Maddox, of all people, Xei?

Yeah I wasn't really being entirely serious?

But my point was of course that some bigwig may say something, but then there are always other just as bigwigs who will deny it. So quoting doesn't really get us anywhere.

Originally Posted by Xei

But my point was of course that some bigwig may say something, but then there are always other just as bigwigs who will deny it. So quoting doesn't really get us anywhere.

My point was that you can't adequately make that point, without at least providing a "just as bigwig." Your point remains insubstantial in this situation, because you haven't provided a reference to someone, that rivals Watt's credibility, whom denies the claims. Maddox simply doesn't qualify.

I wouldn't really know, I live in the UK and nobody ever even considers things like New World Orders over here, it just doesn't make much sense. I have a feeling it's just an American cultural thing, but I'm not an expert.

Originally Posted by Xei

"New World Order conspiracies are a pile of bullshit".

Quote by "George Ouzounian".

THIS ONE'S FOR YOU SMARTY PANTHS!!


September 17, 2008, 3:34 pm A New License, for More Than Just Driving

By Jennifer 8. Lee

The new high-tech enhanced driver’s license, which features an American flag icon, will allow people to cross over land and sea in lieu of using a passport. (Photo: New York State Department of Motor Vehicles)
New York State on Tuesday began offering an “enhanced driver’s license,” one of a number of non-passport citizen travel documents that are making their way down bureaucratic government pipelines. While it looks and functions as a license for driving, only United States citizens can get the voluntary new license (or the non-driver equivalent), which means it can be used for land and sea crossings to Mexico, Canada and the Caribbean islands.

It is also a high-tech card, equipped with a vicinity Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) chip that will broadcast a number to pull up biographic and biometric data for the border officer. (What is good for E-ZPass and Wal-Mart is good for people, too). “The same information that is in the front of the enhanced driver’s license document is in the database,” said Ken Brown, a spokesman for the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles. They are also sending a sleeve out with the ID, he said. “What it does is prevent transmission of that secure number.”
This is part of the function creep around driver’s licenses that some people have long been fearing. The push to make the a driver’s license a secure identity document, as opposed to simply a credential to drive, has caused protests among privacy advocates (and libertarians) who warn that the licenses are verging on becoming a de facto national ID. And numerous state governments have rebelled (in part because of cost) at federal standards for driver’s licenses issued by the Department of Homeland Security.

At the same time, a number of border states have been leading the charge for voluntary high-tech driver’s licenses for other reasons — such as anxieties over how the border restrictions will cause economic drags and inconveniences. (According to New York State statistics, Canadians make 2.5 million visits to New York State annually, spending $679 million, while New York residents make 1.7 million visits to Canada, spending $561 million.)
For many years, Canadians and American citizens were exempt from presenting a passport or other secure document to cross the world’s longest nonmilitarized border — 5,526 miles over land and water. The Homeland Security Department said that border officers reported more than 1,500 cases of people falsely claiming to be American citizens between October and December 2007. Under pressure to tighten border security, the United States set a deadline of January 2008, after which a traveler would have to present a passport in crossing back over land to the United States from Canada and Mexico, among other places. The requirement overwhelmed the American passport system with applications in a country where only 24 percent of the people originally had passports. The deadline was then pushed back to January 2009.
The compromise has been identification cards that essentially prove citizenship, things that have not historically existed in the United States, despite being widely used in other countries like China, Thailand, Malaysia and Russia.
Washington State, which experiences a lot of cross-border traffic with British Columbia, was the first state to offer the enhanced driver’s license in January. Other border states are working with the Department of Homeland Security, including Michigan, Vermont, Arizona, California and Texas. (In contrast, Maine has led the charge among states protesting the federal standards.)
And even Americans who do not live in one of the border states may soon be able to obtain a passport card from the State Department (note how the guy’s name is “Happy Traveler”), a passport in card form that fills a demand by Americans for a less cumbersome citizen document to cross borders. There are also a number of trusted traveler’s identification cards that allow border clearance for low-risk, preapproved travelers between Canada and the United States whether by air, land or

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...-just-driving/

Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID

"Some of it may have evolved. However, there's no doubt most of it is intentional. When you go in again into the history books and you realize just how long big meetings, world meetings in a sense have been held comprising of the wealthy families and their control over their countries. Mainly these families even in Europe are all related to each other, regardless of the countries they live in. They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."

Quote by "Alan Watt"

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You're on the right path, keep digging.

Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID

"Some of it may have evolved. However, there's no doubt most of it is intentional. When you go in again into the history books and you realize just how long big meetings, world meetings in a sense have been held comprising of the wealthy families and their control over their countries. Mainly these families even in Europe are all related to each other, regardless of the countries they live in. They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."

Quote by "Alan Watt"

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Go back to your cave, troll.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Go back to your cave, troll.

Plato wrote The Allegory of the Cave using the Socratic Method, a dialog between a teacher and student. It is taken from a larger work entitled the Republic. Here is a very, very brief summary:

Suppose that there is a group of people who have lived their entire lives trapped in a cave lit by a large fire behind them. Chained in place, these people can see nothing but shadows projected on a wall in front of them. They cannot truly comprehend what they see, since they are prevented from grasping its true source and nature.

Now suppose that one of these human beings manages to break the chains, climb through the passage, and escape the cave. With eyes accustomed only to the dim light of the cave, this individual will at first be blinded by the brightness of the world. But after some time and effort, he will become able to appreciate the beauty of the world.

Finally, suppose that this escapee returns to the cave, trying to persuade the others that there is another, better, real world than the one in the cave. They are unlikely to be impressed by his pleas, especially since, having travelled to the bright surface world, he is now clumsy in the dim cave.

Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID

Plato wrote The Allegory of the Cave using the Socratic Method, a dialog between a teacher and student. It is taken from a larger work entitled the Republic. Here is a very, very brief summary:

Suppose that there is a group of people who have lived their entire lives trapped in a cave lit by a large fire behind them. Chained in place, these people can see nothing but shadows projected on a wall in front of them. They cannot truly comprehend what they see, since they are prevented from grasping its true source and nature.

Now suppose that one of these human beings manages to break the chains, climb through the passage, and escape the cave. With eyes accustomed only to the dim light of the cave, this individual will at first be blinded by the brightness of the world. But after some time and effort, he will become able to appreciate the beauty of the world.

Finally, suppose that this escapee returns to the cave, trying to persuade the others that there is another, better, real world than the one in the cave. They are unlikely to be impressed by his pleas, especially since, having travelled to the bright surface world, he is now clumsy in the dim cave.

So wait, what Plato meant that the cave was actually your asshole, and the fire in it was actually a big black penis? Now it makes sense.

Just what do you think this league of all powerful fat cats is plotting? How would it change your life, even if you found concrete evidence that this is true?

You do know that you are already not in control of your life? You already have a ruling government that is out of your control, even without this nonsense.

The new world order conspiracy is rediculous. Not because it is impossible, but because it is meaningless. There is no point to it. A bunch of people having secret meetings trying to make the world a better place? Ooh, scary. Those same people are already having public meetings to try and make the world a better place.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

Those same people are already having public meetings to try and make the world a better place.

Baaaawaaaahaaaahaaaahaaaahaaaaaaaaa! As bugs would say, "What a Maroon!!"

Originally Posted by Neruo

So wait, what Plato meant that the cave was actually your asshole, and the fire in it was actually a big black penis? Now it makes sense.

Wow, what were you reading? I think you need to visit your optometrist, ASAP

Originally Posted by Neruo

So wait, what Plato meant that the cave was actually your asshole, and the fire in it was actually a big black penis? Now it makes sense.

Don't dwell in these forums...

The many people who are unaware of the energies surrounding them, often dwell in internet forums longer than it is healthy.

What they don't recognize is, how much negative energy resides here.

Most people in today's internet forums express their negative energies in posts, which is now becoming very obvious too in these Lucid Dreaming Forums.

If you look at what kind of threads get the most posts, you will find that these threads are often those who carry nonsensical matter that is often heavily debated. The outcome is pure negativity with not even a result.

Simply by reading these posts, people need to understand that they are picking up the negative energy which was projected into the text by their respective authors. In other words, if you read a thread including it's dozens of comments you consume a total energetic chaos and even worse the fact that most of the comments by now, are of a negative nature.


This is what people need to realize, therefore stay aware from argumentatons and confrontations in the internet. Avoid reading unnecessary comments and stop dealing with people of a lesser understanding than your own. People should agree to disagree, rather than falling to the energetic traps set all over the internet.


Ciao For Now!!

AHAHA. Way to post the same response to 2 different things in 2 different threads. And it's even better cause both are about penisses. AHAHAA. "negative energy" is what you make of it. If you take peoples insulsts and negative comments seriously, than yeah these forums can be bad, but who really gives that much of a fuck.

I'm starting to enjoy your stupidity man. It gives the atheists and then zen fools on this website a common enemy. Like richard nixon or something.

Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID

"Some of it may have evolved. However, there's no doubt most of it is intentional. When you go in again into the history books and you realize just how long big meetings, world meetings in a sense have been held comprising of the wealthy families and their control over their countries. Mainly these families even in Europe are all related to each other, regardless of the countries they live in. They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."

Quote by "Alan Watt"

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Alan Watt clearly doesn't have a basic understanding of genealogy. If you go far enough back in the family trees, any two people can be related. In fact, in another thread I established a maximum number of required generations of about 37. That's the max. Any two people will probably be related much more closely than that. And if you restrict to a single ethnic group, like Western Europeans, you need only go back about 20 generations to relate any two of them. So clearly, world leaders are related to each other if you go back.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

Alan Watt clearly doesn't have a basic understanding of genealogy. If you go far enough back in the family trees, any two people can be related. In fact, in another thread I established a maximum number of required generations of about 37. That's the max. Any two people will probably be related much more closely than that. And if you restrict to a single ethnic group, like Western Europeans, you need only go back about 20 generations to relate any two of them. So clearly, world leaders are related to each other if you go back.

You clearly missed the point. It isn't about genealogy.

"They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."


You also have not listened to Alan Watt. Which is totally your choice. However, there is not another disseminator of real history on this planet, that can come close to Watt. Actually there is no one else who's telling the real history of mankind. Who else is telling us about the real meaning behind words of the english language. NADA!! The man speaks and shares the plain truth like no other!!! Hard truths.

Welcome to the real planet earth.

Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID

You clearly missed the point. It isn't about genealogy.

"They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."


You also have not listened to Alan Watt. Which is totally your choice. However, there is not another disseminator of real history on this planet, that can come close to Watt. Actually there is no one else who's telling the real history of mankind. Who else is telling us about the real meaning behind words of the english language. NADA!! The man speaks and shares the plain truth like no other!!! Hard truths.

Welcome to the real planet earth.

God, does DV attract people that have something missing in their life, and thus need to think the world is a giant conspiracy? Grow the fuck up. Or go to a mental institution, or just get some prozac. Even if your crazy illuminati existed, which it doesn't, writing all-bold worked-up bullshit posts on internet fora makes you seem like a retard without a cause.

Originally Posted by Neruo

Even if your crazy illuminati existed, which it doesn't, writing all-bold worked-up bullshit posts on internet fora makes you seem like a retard without a cause.

Nevermind, causality is relative.

Originally Posted by really

Nevermind, causality is relative.

Actually, it's funny you say that because one of the axioms of modern physics is that causality is never relative, ie. all observers always see the same sequence of events.

Out of context, I know.

Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID

"Some of it may have evolved. However, there's no doubt most of it is intentional. When you go in again into the history books and you realize just how long big meetings, world meetings in a sense have been held comprising of the wealthy families and their control over their countries. Mainly these families even in Europe are all related to each other, regardless of the countries they live in. They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."

Quote by "Alan Watt"

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AMEN!

People who hold on to thne belief that our governments are there to protect us and care for us are very Naive people. This explains nicely and clearly what I've been meaning to tell them about our unholy overrulers for such a long time.

Just in case the conspiracy is for real, let's vote the Republicratic Party completely out of office. They are the party that would be doing the stuff. We do have the ultimate power.