Thread: The Law Of Attraction

I don't.

What in god's name is that diagram on about?

"Awareness is a mirror" is one part of the triangle, and "the hall of mirrors" is another?!?!

Could you explain, in one brief sentence, exactly what that is supposed to be a diagram of? I don't mean to discount it, I'm just completely at a loss and if you could give me a leg up I could study it more carefully.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

What in god's name is that diagram on about?

"Awareness is a mirror" is one part of the triangle, and "the hall of mirrors" is another?!?!

Could you explain, in one brief sentence, exactly what that is supposed to be a diagram of? I don't mean to discount it, I'm just completely at a loss and if you could give me a leg up I could study it more carefully.

Here's my stab at a one sentence explanation before I go to bed...

Once you get to the point of understanding where you can consciously strip away the self-imposed barriers of the ego between you and the other objects here, you start to see everyone and everything as a simple reflection of a never-ending series of randomized dualistic expressions of your true self.

The best analogy I can use is it's like being in a house of mirrors with no one other than yourself there to enjoy it-- by looking at the other mirrors, or external perceptual forces, you can appreciate seeing the different variations of your self image mirrored back to you and learn something from them. One moment they may seem widened or stretched out to an unbelievable degree of the spectrum, and in the next moment you look a different direction and immediately that image is narrowed or stretched inward to the other end. Those observations helps you to further gray the duality of self, and gain better understanding and insight into the non-dualistic nature of your true self. It teaches you tolerance and acceptance, among other things.

If you knew everything you externally perceived was just a warped image of your true self, how could you do anything other than wonder, ponder, and enjoy that image of yourself being reflected back to you?

Originally Posted by SolSkye

If you knew everything you externally perceived was just a warped image of your true self, how could you do anything other than wonder, ponder, and enjoy that image of yourself being reflected back to you?

I don't quite understand what you mean by 'reflections of yourself'.

Are you assuming that humans are more than just physical beings here? If we assume that humans are purely physical beings, which all evidence currently points to, external objects are clearly not a part of ourselves, right?

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Originally Posted by SolSkye

Here's my stab at a one sentence explanation before I go to bed...

Once you get to the point of understanding where you can consciously strip away the self-imposed barriers of the ego between you and the other objects here, you start to see everyone and everything as a simple reflection of a never-ending series of randomized dualistic expressions of your true self.

The best analogy I can use is it's like being in a house of mirrors with no one other than yourself there to enjoy it-- by looking at the other mirrors, or external perceptual forces, you can appreciate seeing the different variations of your self image mirrored back to you and learn something from them. One moment they may seem widened or stretched out to an unbelievable degree of the spectrum, and in the next moment you look a different direction and immediately that image is narrowed or stretched inward to the other end. Those observations helps you to further gray the duality of self, and gain better understanding and insight into the non-dualistic nature of your true self. It teaches you tolerance and acceptance, among other things.

If you knew everything you externally perceived was just a warped image of your true self, how could you do anything other than wonder, ponder, and enjoy that image of yourself being reflected back to you?

If that's a one-sentence explanation, I'm Hayao Miyazaki.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

I don't quite understand what you mean by 'reflections of yourself'.

Are you assuming that humans are more than just physical beings here? If we assume that humans are purely physical beings, which all evidence currently points to, external objects are clearly not a part of ourselves, right?

I'm not assuming. Once you get to that point of understanding you don't have to assume, you know. Obviously, you aren't there yet. Just because you haven't gotten to that point of understanding don't assume that people who have are flat-out wrong or simply assuming.

Nobel peace prize winning scientists, and the like, all eventually humble themselves to realize and reach the same conclusion of there being something unexplainably more to the physical.

"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Albert Einstein

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

If that's a one-sentence explanation, I'm Hayao Miyazaki.

Once you get to the point of understanding where you can consciously strip away the self-imposed barriers of the ego between you and the other objects here, you start to see everyone and everything as a simple reflection of a never-ending series of randomized dualistic expressions of your true self.

That's not one sentence?

Grow up.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

Once you get to the point of understanding where you can consciously strip away the self-imposed barriers of the ego between you and the other objects here, you start to see everyone and everything as a simple reflection of a never-ending series of randomized dualistic expressions of your true self.

That's not one sentence?

Grow up.

Yup. That's one sentence.

This however, isn't:



"Once you get to the point of understanding where you can consciously strip away the self-imposed barriers of the ego between you and the other objects here, you start to see everyone and everything as a simple reflection of a never-ending series of randomized dualistic expressions of your true self.

The best analogy I can use is it's like being in a house of mirrors with no one other than yourself there to enjoy it-- by looking at the other mirrors, or external perceptual forces, you can appreciate seeing the different variations of your self image mirrored back to you and learn something from them. One moment they may seem widened or stretched out to an unbelievable degree of the spectrum, and in the next moment you look a different direction and immediately that image is narrowed or stretched inward to the other end. Those observations helps you to further gray the duality of self, and gain better understanding and insight into the non-dualistic nature of your true self. It teaches you tolerance and acceptance, among other things.

If you knew everything you externally perceived was just a warped image of your true self, how could you do anything other than wonder, ponder, and enjoy that image of yourself being reflected back to you?"




Deflate your ego; ever so slightly. Plz?

The second part was merely an elaboration on the explanation. Quit being difficult, I thought you had learned from the last time I schooled you.

Also, Didn't I mention the ego being stripped away during all of this? Actually, it is you who is thinking with the ego, hence your continued trouble in accepting and understanding all this. Generally, the ego runs wild and exists strongest during one's adolescence. That's why young adults and teens tend to have an uncontrolled affinity to question the establishment and have all these problems with the world around them. One can only hope that time humbles you.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

I'm not assuming. Once you get to that point of understanding you don't have to assume, you know.

You can't just 'know' something. We never actually know anything for sure despite all of our careful science, as it is. If you claim to just 'know', then that's an assumption, by definition.

Originally Posted by NonDualistic

Obviously, you aren't there yet. Just because you haven't gotten to that point of understanding don't assume that people who have are flat-out wrong or simply assuming.

And what makes you so sure that I am behind and you ahead?

Originally Posted by NonDualistic

Nobel peace prize winning scientists, and the like, all eventually humble themselves to realize and reach the same conclusion of there being something unexplainably more to the physical.

"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Albert Einstein

Appeals to authority mean nothing. I also don't understand how it's 'humbling' to 'admit' that you are going to live forever and are more special than other organisms/objects. It actually seems quite the contrary to me.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

You can't just 'know' something. We never actually know anything for sure despite all of our careful science, as it is. If you claim to just 'know', then that's an assumption, by definition.



And what makes you so sure that I am behind and you ahead?



Appeals to authority mean nothing. I also don't understand how it's 'humbling' to 'admit' that you are going to live forever and are more special than other organisms/objects. It actually seems quite the contrary to me.

Ummmmm Gnome, Are you sure it was me that said what you are atrributing those two quotes in the post above there to? ..... because I dont really recall writing those.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

And what makes you so sure that I am behind and you ahead?



Appeals to authority mean nothing. I also don't understand how it's 'humbling' to 'admit' that you are going to live forever and are more special than other organisms/objects. It actually seems quite the contrary to me.

I didn't use the terms behind and ahead, nor did I say I was more special. Also, for you to assume the universe which you are undoubtedly a part of doesn't exist forever takes an extreme leap of faith in the opposite direction. You need to go back and re-read what I wrote because you are clearly putting words in my mouth. And, it's unfortunate that appeals to authority mean nothing to you. You could learn a lot from them if you had an open mind enough to internalize and listen, instead of simply choosing to argue all the time. That explanation of mine wasn't meant to be a subject of debate. You either; take it, or leave it... understand it, or don't. And, just because you can't or don't grasp something doesn't make it wrong.

Either way, I'm not trying to change your mind and I've got nothing to prove to you. So... do what you like, man.