Thread: The Law Of Attraction

As much as I wish I could, the inexplicable and personal nature of the subtractive prevents me or anyone else from being able to really share it with another in additive inert words.

It's like walking down a path that eventually narrows itself to the width of your persona. Leaving you the only one that can cross over that threshold. Making it an entirely personal experience, and unable to be expressed with others. For it is your additive self-awareness, and nothing else, that you are experiencing.

What that picture was describing was the direction the path goes. Once you head down that path and find it narrowing you'll know you are going the right direction. By association, you'll never reach a complete standstill or absolution but you can get a great sense of oneness and connection to all passing through the Nile of the subtractive.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

What that picture was describing was the direction the path goes. Once you head down that path and find it narrowing you'll know you are going the right direction. By association, you'll never reach a complete standstill or absolution but you can get a great sense of oneness and connection to all passing through the Nile of the subtractive.

Ok. But how can you tell the difference between additive and subtractive - how can looking inward as subtractive not be perceived as growing awareness as additive? After all, the paradox lies where I ignore the image because it lies in the additive world.

When one's mind is still enough, it's self-evident which path was taken. If you strip away outer perceptions to reach your realization, then it's not an additive. Since the outer wasn't touched in any way to get there, it can only lead you to believe an inner subtractive route was taken.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

When one's mind is still enough, it's self-evident which path was taken. If you strip away outer perceptions to reach your realization, then it's not an additive. Since the outer wasn't touched in any way to get there, it can only lead you to believe an inner subtractive route was taken.

Originally Posted by NonDualistic

As the view shifts to the subtractive(according to the diagram) one begins to lose the sense of "I" and "me".

The more one travels in that direction of the subtractive the less there is of the concept of oneself, or at least concept of onself apart from what is in ones view.

If one reaches the goal of "enlightenment" or the end of the subtractive(which is also actually the beginning of it all) the one who was doing the looking is no longer left to attain the enlightenment. Such a concept of ego self vanishes, as all in ones view is percieved as oneSelf.

Ok. So practically, how is this managed - the path of subtraction?

Originally Posted by thegnome54

Even if you can take knowledge from scientific inquiry and use it to found a view of the world, that doesn't make science itself a way of viewing the world. There is a distinction there, that's all.

Ok, sure. But the outcome is what I am talking about.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

That's what I disagree with. Experience cannot result in true knowledge, unless it was part of some sort of scientific inquiry (and I consider changing the batteries in a flashlight a scientific inquiry, mind you). For example, if I see a ghost, that does not imbue me with the knowledge that ghosts do exist - only the knowledge that I think I saw a ghost.

I think that is good enough, it's just of different nature.

Take psychics for example. Do they know anything for sure, or do they think they do? If they are right, why would you try to proove doubly with science that they are?

Originally Posted by thegnome54

You have to be really careful not to draw inferences from your experiences - another example is the one you used - just because the sun looks like a giant fireball to you doesn't mean that it IS one.

Do you know what a metaphor is? They're inevitable.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

You don't have knowledge that it is one just by looking at it and making the connection between a sphere and a campfire.

Yes, but my point is that it is valid anyhow. A Campfire might be mistaken for a fire that is outside but not in a camp. You can still call it one. It depends on who you are as a person.

Originally Posted by really

Ok. So practically, how is this managed - the path of subtraction?

You live it , you dont manage it. It is a simple representation of "what is".

You cant "see" the subtractive if you are still stuck in the frame of mind that you are the physical body you see in the mirror everyday.

Originally Posted by really

Ok. But how can you tell the difference between additive and subtractive - how can looking inward as subtractive not be perceived as growing awareness as additive? After all, the paradox lies where I ignore the image because it lies in the additive world.

As the view shifts to the subtractive(according to the diagram) one begins to lose the sense of "I" and "me".

The more one travels in that direction of the subtractive the less there is of the concept of oneself, or at least concept of onself apart from what is in ones view.

If one reaches the goal of "enlightenment" or the end of the subtractive(which is also actually the beginning of it all) the one who was doing the looking is no longer left to attain the enlightenment. Such a concept of ego self vanishes, as all in ones view is percieved as oneSelf.

"Your non-dualism is beautiful.

The dualism in linguistics, is amazing.

'I' gain(?)/lose something each time 'i' read a post of 'yours' ND.

Something that is unexplainable, and which pulls me almost instantly towards the non-existant path of this 'subtractiveness'."

I don't.

What in god's name is that diagram on about?

"Awareness is a mirror" is one part of the triangle, and "the hall of mirrors" is another?!?!

Could you explain, in one brief sentence, exactly what that is supposed to be a diagram of? I don't mean to discount it, I'm just completely at a loss and if you could give me a leg up I could study it more carefully.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

What in god's name is that diagram on about?

"Awareness is a mirror" is one part of the triangle, and "the hall of mirrors" is another?!?!

Could you explain, in one brief sentence, exactly what that is supposed to be a diagram of? I don't mean to discount it, I'm just completely at a loss and if you could give me a leg up I could study it more carefully.

Here's my stab at a one sentence explanation before I go to bed...

Once you get to the point of understanding where you can consciously strip away the self-imposed barriers of the ego between you and the other objects here, you start to see everyone and everything as a simple reflection of a never-ending series of randomized dualistic expressions of your true self.

The best analogy I can use is it's like being in a house of mirrors with no one other than yourself there to enjoy it-- by looking at the other mirrors, or external perceptual forces, you can appreciate seeing the different variations of your self image mirrored back to you and learn something from them. One moment they may seem widened or stretched out to an unbelievable degree of the spectrum, and in the next moment you look a different direction and immediately that image is narrowed or stretched inward to the other end. Those observations helps you to further gray the duality of self, and gain better understanding and insight into the non-dualistic nature of your true self. It teaches you tolerance and acceptance, among other things.

If you knew everything you externally perceived was just a warped image of your true self, how could you do anything other than wonder, ponder, and enjoy that image of yourself being reflected back to you?