Thread: The Law Of Attraction

Originally Posted by blade5x

Do you understand how there is even life in the first place?

Yes. Don't you?

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Yes. Don't you?

Please enlighten me. I'm not talking about evolution. I'm talking existence in general.

Originally Posted by blade5x

Please enlighten me. I'm not talking about evolution. I'm talking existence in general.

Existence in general I can't explain. I don't think anyone can. Either way the existence of life doesn't equate to existence in general..



First you went entirely tangental from my point, seen as understanding that there can't be life after death has nothing to do with understanding of how life in general started.

I take evidence and what I can test to be true. I'm sure you probably take the "vibrations" or aura to be far more valuable than rational testing could ever be, and that's just fine.

Either way, what is this obsession with "life" everyone seems so hung up on. It isn't some miraculous amazing god given thing. There is no sanctity of life, as catholics would have you believe.

The tiny single cell amoeba is life. There is nothing mystical or sacred to the life here. It simply respirates and excretes. Well done. It must be magikk.


Life isn't so special. Scientists are pretty certain on the creation of life, and it makes far more sense than any theory we would like to believe, because I admit. It's a bit of anti-climax, this whole science thing. I would love to believe life was part of some magical eternal cycle, or the gift of some divine being. But really, that is just idle fantasy. Learn this.



As far as life after death goes. Life is literally the physical processes of our body; the respiratory system, the digestory system, the brain and the millions of neurons making up our behaviour and personality. THIS IS LIFE.

When we die, this all stops; we are buried, and we rot. This is all proven and documented, as you well know.

Dump the preconception that life is somehow special. It is just another different combination of atoms, just like the rock, or the galaxy.

It isn't even complex, its a pathetic conclusion of a flawed world.

No, that's your pathetic conclusion... Life is what you make of it. Plain and simple.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

No, that's your pathetic conclusion... Life is what you make of it. Plain and simple.

WTF.

I want my life to be a physical chicken. WAIT, THATS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE.

Screw you. I'll take a nicer tone when you logically and rationally debunk my arguments.

Til then, F' off.


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Originally Posted by Carôusoul

WTF.

I want my life to be a physical chicken. WAIT, THATS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE.

Screw you. I'll take a nicer tone when you logically and rationally debunk my arguments.

Til then, F' off.


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The tone of most your posts speak for themselves and show a true lack of understanding on many a level.

As I've already said countless times, If you continually look outside yourself for answers you will find none. If you look outside for justification and purpose, you will also find none...

Clearly, your conclusion for life, among many other things, comes from having a lack of perspective. You, like others on here, are focusing way too much on the results reached through outer observation. Without the ability to have perspective enough to observe both inner and outer discourse in perfect accordance with one another, you will be left unable to find the purpose in the lack of purpose-- unable to enjoy the contradictions of life. Inabilities, which are evident in your vocalized frustrations.

Time and experience naturally bring one into perspective. You, like many others in here, are still pretty young. Yeah, I know when we are young we all like to think that age doesn't matter, but it does. Otherwise, we wouldn't assign the meaningless digits to ourselves, in the first place. I remember being in the exact same mindset as most of you are at 15-16-- thinking I had the whole world all figured out, and how experience and age didn't count for sh:t. I even dated a girl 10 years older than me for 2 years thinking it didn't matter because I was ahead of the game. Trust me, it does matter. Sure, there are some exceptions in eloquence, education, and edification of one's character... But overall, we pretty much think the same things during the different stages of our life.

I'm sure as much as you don't want to admit it, deep down you must know your way of viewing the world is askew. Just as everyone's is. If you didn't allow for the existence of error and self-doubt, that certainty of life being pathetic and pointless would've had you kill yourself long ago. Whether you admit it to me or not, I know you don't fully believe what you just preached and must leave room to be proved wrong somewhere in the back of your mind. Which in this case, you are clearly wrong...you just haven't found your purpose, yet.

Hows that... Pretty much hits the nail on the head, no?

Please allow me to share one my favorite japanese proverbs...
一時が万事
(Direct translation: One moment, 10 thousand things)
(Indirect translation: The ability to comprehend many other things, from looking at just one thing, especially from human action or words)

Originally Posted by SolSkye

Yeah, I know when we are young we all like to think that age doesn't matter, but it does. If not, we wouldn't assign the meaningless digits to ourselves, in the first place. I remember being in the exact same mindset as most of you are at 15-16-- thinking I had the whole world all figured out, and how experience and age didn't count for sh:t.

Well, I hesitate to believe your generalizations from the outset, seeing as I am acutely aware of my current limitations. I am still a child, by all accounts, in my formative years, and I am obviously not completely mentally or emotionally mature.

But there's no shame in that, and I will endeavor to shape myself and my beliefs as best I can given the circumstances.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

As I've already said countless times, If you continually look outside yourself for answers you will find none. If you look outside for justification and purpose, you will also find none...

Some people mature by looking 'into themselves', as you say, but I don't believe that everyone does - I'm already deviating from the path you followed when you were my age. I believe that it is simply in my nature to seek logic and external verification of truths, and unless I experience a major change in my mental characteristics this will likely never change.

However, I'm still curious - I have a good general idea of what you mean by 'look into yourself', but I really don't understand specifically what sort of action you're referring to. Meditation? What do you propose to learn from this shift in attention?

Originally Posted by SolSkye

The tone of most your posts speak for themselves and show a true lack of understanding on many a level.

As I've already said countless times, If you continually look outside yourself for answers you will find none. If you look outside for justification and purpose, you will also find none...

Clearly, your conclusion for life, among many other things, comes from having a lack of perspective. You, like others on here, are focusing way too much on the results reached through outer observation. Without the ability to have perspective enough to observe both inner and outer discourse in perfect accordance with one another, you will be left unable to find the purpose in the lack of purpose-- unable to enjoy the contradictions of life. Inabilities, which are evident in your vocalized frustrations.

Time and experience naturally bring one into perspective. You, like many others in here, are still pretty young. Yeah, I know when we are young we all like to think that age doesn't matter, but it does. Otherwise, we wouldn't assign the meaningless digits to ourselves, in the first place. I remember being in the exact same mindset as most of you are at 15-16-- thinking I had the whole world all figured out, and how experience and age didn't count for sh:t. I even dated a girl 10 years older than me for 2 years thinking it didn't matter because I was ahead of the game. Trust me, it does matter. Sure, there are some exceptions in eloquence, education, and edification of one's character... But overall, we pretty much think the same things during the different stages of our life.

I'm sure as much as you don't want to admit it, deep down you must know your way of viewing the world is askew. Just as everyone's is. If you didn't allow for the existence of error and self-doubt, that certainty of life being pathetic and pointless would've had you kill yourself long ago. Whether you admit it to me or not, I know you don't fully believe what you just preached and must leave room to be proved wrong somewhere in the back of your mind. Which in this case, you are clearly wrong...you just haven't found your purpose, yet.

Hows that... Pretty much hits the nail on the head, no?

Please allow me to share one my favorite japanese proverbs...
一時が万事
(Direct translation: One moment, 10 thousand things)
(Indirect translation: The ability to comprehend many other things, from looking at just one thing, especially from human action or words)

No.Alright, I'll stop with hostility.

I remain unclear what looking into yourself is.



What different aspect? I know its been said.. but like, meditation..? Or what..


I think your underrating scientific observation as furthering the truth.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

You don't gather knowledge from personal experiences. You gather it through science.

You're right, but how about this - how can science exist without experience?

Originally Posted by SolSkye

The tone of most your posts speak for themselves and show a true lack of understanding on many a level.

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Hows that... Pretty much hits the nail on the head, no?

Please allow me to share one my favorite japanese proverbs...
一時が万事
(Direct translation: One moment, 10 thousand things)
(Indirect translation: The ability to comprehend many other things, from looking at just one thing, especially from human action or words)

Hey, you know I am genuinely interested in on of your posts, and I asked you a question about it. But you'd prefer to reply to someone who shows a bit of hostility? Why don't you pay a bit more attention on what matters instead of over complicating things with your arguments? Help me out here.


I'd prefer if we all would stop bagging "The Secret" and really just talk about The Law Of Attraction. Thanks.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

No, that's your pathetic conclusion... Life is what you make of it. Plain and simple.

I don't agree with you whatsoever carousoul, nor are your claims "documented" as you say, but...

If life is what you make of it then carousoul's reasoning isn't a pathetic conclusion and is instead self-justified.

p.s. Atheism is in fact a belief in itself...not the absence of belief.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

I don't agree with you whatsoever carousoul, nor are your claims "documented" as you say, but...

If life is what you make of it then carousoul's reasoning isn't a pathetic conclusion and is instead self-justified.

Most of my claims are relating to anatomy etc. How are these not documented?

Originally Posted by Ric W

I am a big believer in the fact that everything done has an equal reaction. For something bad, there is something good. Everything balances out.

How do you explain the different perceptions of what is 'good' and 'bad' between individuals? Because this statement implies absolute morality, and if morality is an absolute, then when two people disagree - "kicking that rock is wrong", says Bob, and "no, it's right", says Susan - then one of them must be wrong. Are you aware of the implications?

Originally Posted by Ric W

I'm can't say I'm an atheist... there must be something out there. To have evolved to this state can't have been chance.

I'm going to try not to attack you on this, but simply ask - what or why makes you say this? Do you fully comprehend the nature of evolution? It is a VERY powerful process.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

p.s. Atheism is in fact a belief in itself...not the absence of belief.

There are multiple definitions of atheism which are thrown around. The dictionary atheist is someone who, yes, BELIEVES that there is no god. However, in common language an atheist is really just an agnostic - someone who simply lacks a belief in any god.

What I do not understand is how you do not think life is amazing? Life is so broad and diverse. Think about what you said with the tiniest cell, or perhaps a strain of bacteria. We are composed of countless cells and are the most complex species on the entire planet. The way humanity has evolved over the passed few thousand years alone is so breath taking, let alone how we are physically and mentally evolving with technology and understanding of the universe.

Think about the clothes you wear, the keyboard you type on, your electronics, your house - think about what is necessary to construct all of these things. Everyone takes things for granted not realizing how complex the chain is of how things are made that we commonly use and/or experience.

Breathing fresh air and looking at the sunset, looking up at the sky at the stars, taking that sip of coffee, drinking that glass of water, eating that favorite delicacy that makes your mouth always water, a hug from one you love, a sport you enjoy playing, a conversation you enjoy talking about, a computer game you enjoy playing, the people you enjoy being around, the pets you love. How much more can I go on? Life is beyond magnificent, you just need to open your mind.