The Law Of Attraction

**Swank** · 10-23-2007 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mystic7

Illusions. Maybe because when a movie is promoted so heavily that is fundamentally flawed that take advantage of gullible people's minds. It makes the world that much more difficult to live in? Your also in the world you know there is not some gap between you and other people. If people are getting ripped off. Your not suppose to sit back and let it happen. but I know that you don't realize I'm just defending people's right to condemn this movie for what it is. A trap and distortion of reality. Which has gumby damaging effects in the lives of people who think the movie is exactly way to approach life and it's purpose.

The law of attraction does not involve simply using the universe as a giant gum ball machine for whatever you want to manifest out of your imagination. It's a bit more than serving yourself. Life expands more than material self service.

Also you think you know this great principle that other people don't know. But you will find your actually one of the least educated.

And illusions. Your quote really pisses me off. You want to know why? Because you don't recognize what manipulation really is and your trying to demonstrate what you think is your knowledge with your absolute blindness about past examples.

Ok Mystic, reading your posts after this one stating that illusions wasn't seeing your beliefs, let me try and figure it out-

Maybe because when a movie is promoted so heavily that is fundamentally flawed that take advantage of gullible people's minds.

A trap and distortion of reality. Which has gumby damaging effects in the lives of people who think the movie is exactly way to approach life and it's purpose.

I'll save you the further belittling of illusion's arguments. She has found that this stuff works, when applied and used properly. YOU HAVENT. THEREFORE, she sees truth in it. YOU DONT. damaging effects in the lives of people - who are we talking about here, you or other people?

The simple matter is there was a movie made, people don't think life is that easy, and shake it off as spiritual nonsense. Here's a fact: most of the world's population dont agree with any spiritually related events or theories. Plenty of people just want to drink beer and get high, grow rich, get old and die. The ironic thing about this is, in a way, thinking like this is a trap and a distortion of reality. I know everyone on this forum is into lucid dreaming and astral travel - that alone shows that we are all thinking outside the box. New advances in Quantum Physics are proving that astral travel on the physical plane is indeed possible. If you read the science behind the theory of the law of attraction, you will find that it IS possible.

I have plenty more to say but this post is already getting too long. The only other thing I can say is if you dont believe in stuff like this, I dont care. You see reality the way most people do - as society has taught you to see it. Look how far that has gotten humanity - greed, hunger, terrorism, dictatorship, and fear. What a happy place.

Don't blame the fact that you don't like the idea of bringing into manifestation what you want on us, its your problem not ours.

**really** · 10-23-2007 02:50 PM

Yeah, and if you're requesting help, don't push back whats given to you.

Originally Posted by Mystic7

Like mark said. Your statements really do make me want to chainsaw my own face off. I never thought I would find myself agreeing with anything mark said. But this is the exception. You are arrogant.

All these xxx, smiley face here and there. Love and light this and that. But it's obvious your a know it all that doesn't even read or consider what I just posted.

Half your problem is being so selfishly judgmental. You don't know her.

Originally Posted by Mystic7

Basically you are testing my patience and that is my greatest weakness. Stupidity is the worst thing. That's why people get upset. Not because your smart. But because you insist on your blindness.

*that's your belief* does not count for a response. Just an endless loop of dumbness.

Well it's no wonder you aren't learning anything! You're being ignorant, if somebodies belief doesn't count as a response, what are you counting on?

Seriously, stop trying to find reasons for this to become a problem. You sound troubled. Find a way, life works that way.

Exactly: Find a way, life works that way. I repeat.

You won't be forever lost if you think positive. Our thinking is the basis for our experiences. You will be lost by saying why you don't believe in something so harshly. You don't sound satisfied. You don't know how this came to be, so don't state that I am brainwashed. You don't know me. I let things work for me, I let them. It's a waste of time, posting how angry you are. Does it make it easier for you? I doubt it, for it seems that it doesn't.

This world is simple, so I see it.

A bad experience will be remembered, and so it is remembered.

A bad experience may be forgotten, and so it is forgotten.

Somebody is disliked, and so they are disliked.

Somebody is liked, and so they will be liked.

This is all up to you, and so it is up to you.

Your path is your own choosing, and so you choose it.

You have no choice, then you don't.

Those are happy are happy.

Those are sad are sad.

Those who believe in themselves, believe in themselves.

Those who don't, do not.

This world is simple, so I see it.

You may look back with regret. You may not look back. But please, make sure you look forward with anticipation. I am being realistic.

**illusions** · 10-23-2007 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Mystic7

Before you are able to accept my beliefs. You have to understand them first. I can understand yours because I can explain them back to you. You cannot understand mine as when you describe my beliefs I can guarantee they will not fit my description hence I know you do not comprehended.

Clearly it is your desire to keep thinking you understand and accept my beliefs without bothering to notice you actually don't have a clue what I believe. The reason I try and explain to you is because it's unpleasant seeing my beliefs dumbed down through you....

Basically you are testing my patience and that is my greatest weakness. Stupidity is the worst thing. That's why people get upset. Not because your smart. But because you insist on your blindness.

*that's your belief* does not count for a response. Just an endless loop of dumbness.

Lol, Mystic, I'm guessing then that you've changed your mind since sending me the apology via PM?

It's interesting that you say you understand my beliefs and as you put it:

"I can understand yours because I can explain them back to you."

- I think if you read back through your answers to my posts, you'll find the following answers (which, as far as I can make out, actually have nothing to do with the points I've made

):

The law of attraction does not involve simply using the universe as a giant gum ball machine for whatever you want to manifest out of your imagination. It's a bit more than serving yourself. Life expands more than material self service. Also you think you know this great principle that other people don't know. But you will find your actually one of the least educated.
And illusions. Your quote really pisses me off. You want to know why? Because you don't recognize what manipulation really is and your trying to demonstrate what you think is your knowledge with your absolute blindness about past examples.

Like mark said. Your statements really do make me want to chainsaw my own face off. I never thought I would find myself agreeing with anything mark said. But this is the exception. You are arrogant.

All these xxx, smiley face here and there. Love and light this and that. But it's obvious your a know it all that doesn't even read or consider what I just posted.

- I'm not sure this is "understanding my beliefs and explaining them back to me" lol

As I told you in my answer to your PM, I understand from what you've posted that, you believe that The Secret and Rhonda Burn, are taking advantage of people, and that they're just trying to make money out of "gullible" people.

I understand that that is your opinion and your view. But the important part of this sentence is that it is YOUR opinion and YOUR view. That doesn't mean it's correct. It doesn't mean it's true. And it certainly doesn't mean that others have to agree with you.

The main difference between you and me, Mystic, is that I am happy for others to believe whatever makes sense for them, I believe in free choice and I have no desire to convince anyone else to believe what I believe. I am well aware that just because something makes sense to me, doesn't mean it is necessarily "right" or the only "truth" - it's just the truth for me... Whereas, you are trying to convince others that what YOU consider to be "right" and the "truth" - is right and true for everyone else.... as I mentioned before.... religion anyone?

You actually haven't answered any of the points I've made

For example:

Point One: The world is full of people who believe that what they consider "right" or "wrong", "moral" or "evil", "taking advantage of the gullible masses", the "truth"... and so on... is the ONLY way - for EVERYONE. For some reason, people who think this way (and I could be wrong, but this is the way you are presenting yourself through the posts you've made so far), insist that Everyone should see the "obvious" "flaws" in whatever they happen to be attacking or riduculing at the time.... Look at religious wars... come to think of it .... look at war in general - EVERYONE thinks they're "right" lol.

Point Two: When a person makes judgements - based on their own individual experience of the world and life, their own beliefs and views and opinions - and then demands that the rest of the world see it the same way because it's "obvious" ... well again, welcome to the world of religion and politics

Point Three: Charles K. Johnson is as CERTAIN that the earth is flat, as you are that The Secret is

fundamentally flawed that take advantage of gullible people's minds.

And ....

but I know that you don't realize I'm just defending people's right to condemn this movie for what it is. A trap and distortion of reality. Which has gumby damaging effects in the lives of people who think the movie is exactly way to approach life and it's purpose.

Lol... See there you go again

... The first part of this quote is fair enough "defending people's right to condemn this movie" (although of course, I've seen no-one trying to stop anyone condeming it, so don't know why they need defending, but anyway...) but then of course you continue with "for what it is...." - you have decided on behalf of humanity, that this is what it is... what about the rights of those who don't "condem" it? What about the rights of those who find it interesting and useful?

I get the impression you have decided that only those who agree with you have rights lol

And.... who gets to decide who's gullible and who's not? who gets to decide who's being "taken advantage of", and who's not? .... I must say, I've always found self-proclaimed saviours of the "gullible" hillarious since they seem to decide all by themselves, and without being asked, that certain "gullible masses" need "protecting" and "saving", and don't seem to consider "free will" and "choice" as of any value - except when it pertains to themselves or those who think the same as they do

Has it occured to you that perhaps the people you consider "gullible" are quite happy with their choices in life. There may even be some who are happier and more successful that you are?

Life is much more fun and enjoyable when you relax a little and allow others to have views and opinions that aren't the same as yours. It's more interesting and less stressful that way too!

Love and Light and Free Choice xxx

**Mystic7** · 10-23-2007 07:16 PM

I hope this has been a learning experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHvMrf7_f80

**Jeff777** · 10-23-2007 09:15 PM

David Icke, watch his videos.

**Swank** · 10-24-2007 04:37 AM

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**awoke** · 10-24-2007 05:42 AM

I saw the movie. dont doubt it, but dont outright take it for truth.
I did roll with the plan of it for a while. and found that, even if the stuff I was "asking" for, wasnt showing up, i still walked around all day feeling good about shit, because thats what it requires. still theres days that youre down, but trying to peep the upside aint such a bad thing. silver linings in storm clouds type of thing.

**Mystic7** · 10-24-2007 10:14 AM

David Icke, watch his videos.

I'm watching Interview 2 with Zulu Shaman Credo Mutwa p7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MKu9YuLA0

**thegnome54** · 10-30-2007 08:32 PM

My main beef with this tripe is the whole "Law" thing. They present this "Law" as a scientific fact, something which is a part of the physical universe.

It's not.

There is no law of attraction.

What there IS is perceptive human beings. A very big part of this is other people. If you sit around staring at a magazine cutout of a bicycle all day long, chances are someone might notice and take it upon themselves to get you one. The other major component, as far as I can see, is the simple fact that if you spend a lot of time thinking about this bicycle, you will be much more likely to notice and take advantage of situations which might help you get the bicycle (you'll pay more attention to classified bicycle adds, for example).

This is all fine and dandy, UNTIL you start with the 'Law' bullshit. If you're alone in a forest and start concentrating your ass off trying to attract a toaster oven, good luck to you. The mere act of thinking about or desiring an object has absolutely no discernible effect on the object itself which would make you more likely to come to own it.

The bottom line - there is no law of attraction. But if you devote a lot of time and willpower to acquiring something, you will probably be more likely to get it some way or another. ...Isn't that obvious, though? I shouldn't think anyone would need a movie to tell them that.

**illusions** · 10-30-2007 09:25 PM

thegnome54:

My main beef with this tripe is the whole "Law" thing. They present this "Law" as a scientific fact, something which is a part of the physical universe.

It's not.

Lol, Gnome, what makes you think "It's not"?

Listen to this interview, you might find it interesting

Of course, if you're happy to just discount it on the experience or knowledge you have so far without expanding it, then that's your choice.

Love and Light and Magic xxx

**thegnome54** · 10-30-2007 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by illusions

Lol, Gnome, what makes you think "It's not"?

A complete lack of experimental evidence or solid scientific backing.

We know very, very, very little about quantum mechanics (if anything, really), and I will not take an interview with some random dude as proof of anything.

Do the research yourself, and expand your mind - go and sit out in the middle of a forest, away from any other people, and use this 'law' to attract a BMW. Go ahead.

I reiterate, there is no such thing as the law of attraction (I'm using 'law' as the scientific term as is implied by proponents of this stuff). There are few enough scientific laws as it is, and this is most definitely not one of them.

**Jeff777** · 10-30-2007 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Mystic7

I'm watching Interview 2 with Zulu Shaman Credo Mutwa p7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MKu9YuLA0

**Cyclic13** · 11-02-2007 07:18 AM

Since this is basically a revival thread of your views on the Secret... I will save time and help drive a point home by just pasting what I posted there regarding their 'Law of Attraction'...

Originally Posted by SolSkye

Anything will seem true to an individual if one believes in it long enough...

HOWEVER...How things seem and how they are, are always two different things entirely. The person who blindly believes in anything tertiary as real, basically chooses to buy into a self-imposed cage, a prison, and in the end...a lie. When that bubble bursts under it's own weight they will be in for a big surprise...all those meaningless material goods they chose to distract themselves with were just that...distractions. Created of them, by them, in order to escape realization of self...escape of truth.

And, here's where I fundamentally disagree with this precept the secret is selling. The entire message just starts to scratch the surface of the beginnings of solipsism- the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist. Then, they take a sharp right, and turn it into a mainstream, overhyped, consumeristic, and wholly absurd idea that anyone would naturally choose to use this law of attraction for self-gain, material possessions, and power...rather than taking that realization a step further and focusing attentions inward where they belong.

They assume the rational choice to focus attentions outward!?!? Pfft...what a crock of shit.

Without knowing yourself and just blindly wanting objects outside of you is dangerous. Anyone that would truly understand one's self would realize there is no point to obtaining these material possessions as there is no distinction between them and you, and as such, the effort to obtain what you already possess is meaningless.

FOCUS on yourselves...not the meaningless material dream...

**thegnome54** · 11-03-2007 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by SolSkye

Without knowing yourself and just blindly wanting objects outside of you is dangerous. Anyone that would truly understand one's self would realize there is no point to obtaining these material possessions as there is no distinction between them and you, and as such, the effort to obtain what you already possess is meaningless.

...So if I want a hamburger, it's pointless because the hamburger is the same as me, so I already have one?

I don't believe that makes any sense.

**Jeff777** · 11-03-2007 03:43 AM

Hey illusions, regarding the law of attraction you're completely right. You've come under tremendous heat in this thread, I commend you and your posture on how you deal with it.

"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally it is accepted as self-evident." - Arthur Schoepenhouer

**thegnome54** · 11-03-2007 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

Hey illusions, regarding the law of attraction you're completely right. You've come under tremendous heat in this thread, I commend you and your posture on how you deal with it.

I agree with you, but why not help her out a bit?

You still haven't addressed my forest BMW challenge. If you claim that it stems from a misunderstanding of the law, then at least correct me.

**Cyclic13** · 11-03-2007 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by thegnome54

...So if I want a hamburger, it's pointless because the hamburger is the same as me, so I already have one?

I don't believe that makes any sense.

Philosophically, and objectively speaking, yes...yes it is the same. Everyone, and everything came from the same singularity in space. That is an undeniable and practical fact which one can choose to accept or deny.

You eat the hamburger only to get back up, take a dump, and repeat the hunger/feast ritual all over again. Just as you do with any duality here. Be it, Pain, or Pleasure... Hot, or Cold...Starve, or Gorge...Life, or Death.

One's desire for a hamburger makes about as much sense as having the sense of hunger for the hamburger, or any of your imperfect perceptions, in the first place. Ultimately, you choose to eat it, or not. Neither move you make objectively matters in the grand scheme, or makes a real difference or impact. Your playing piece will always remain the same, and come back to square one in the end. Back to a contradiction.

That's why I find the law of attraction kind of stupid because people try to avoid balancing themselves and gravitate towards the positive, which is an impossibility because there will always be the inner negativity that exists within themselves that they are ignorantly choosing to run from, rather than confront. Not to mention, an equal number of disbelievers never allowing them to reach their absolution. So subjectively sad, if you ask me.

All the while, these people ignorantly and selfishly choose to ignore all the actual suffering and negative parts that exist in themselves and the outside world. It's more of a law of actively choosing to be subjectively selfish, and unaware. As opposed to being truly objectively aware and accepting responsibility for yourself, and your connection to your surroundings.

Whatever floats their boat, though...They'll eventually realize their delusion...and choose to forget it again... as we all do with this contradictory universe.

**Jeff777** · 11-03-2007 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by thegnome54

I agree with you, but why not help her out a bit?

You still haven't addressed my forest BMW challenge. If you claim that it stems from a misunderstanding of the law, then at least correct me.

I can't give you anything except a point of view from my personal subjective experience with the knowledge regarding the law of attraction. Let me first correct a misconception that it seems you and a lot of people who think as you do cling to. The law of attraction is DEAD unless you take action. With thoughts what you want is brought to you and with action it is received. When I was 18, I began reading into the law of attraction and learning all about it. I ordered many books, sat down and had one-on one conversations with multi-millionaires who attest to it being the reason why they are where they are today. I learned and continued to read deeper and deeper until I found common themes in some of the world's most successful people. As I said before (which I'd like to bring emphasis to yet again), The law of attraction is useless unless you take massive action. So thegnome, if you go into a forest and think with all your might for a BMW to appear...you'll be walking home. However, if you focus your thoughts consciously towards a BMW, you will inevitably start noticicing BMW's more, hearing about them more, or even (as fate would have it?) sit next to a guy on a bus who wants to sell his used BMW for a low deal. Don't be ignorant...of course our reticular activating system plays a major part in this "selective focus" as well, but so does the law. Going back to me, at the age of 18 I did not see the college life as my avenue to go down so after studying/conversing with some of the world's most successful people, I started a business of my own. To make a long story short, I applied (and still continue to apply) the lessons I've read about, learned, heard, studied and emulated. I became aware of my thought direction and started focusing my thoughts on purpose. My business is amazing and I am loving this ride and journey in life. In a month I will be 20. At the rate my business is expanding, I should be a millionaire by my 21st birthday. The first one from my family. Before you or any others ridicule, discredit and even (pointlessly) try to debunk the law of attraction, do you even UNDERSTAND it? Have you tried attracting something to you (not ignorantly trying to attract, i.e. BMW in woods) at all? I can't say anything bad about Buddhism because I don't fully understand it, don't know much about it, but am intrigued by enough to try to understand it without ridiculing it while at the same time keep my mouth shut about what I don't know.

Also a common theme I've noticed is that those who are wealthy/successful in the earth know the importance about focused thoughts, mindset, action etc...which is the law of attraction in a nutshell. If you can find one, go ask them about it.

**♥Mark** · 11-03-2007 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

I ordered many books...multi-millionaires who attest to it being the reason why they are where they are today.

lulz

**Jeff777** · 11-03-2007 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Mark75

lulz

I fail to see what's so goddamn funny marky, care to enlighten me?

**♥Mark** · 11-03-2007 08:58 AM

My books explain it.

**Cyclic13** · 11-03-2007 09:47 AM

And, for an extra 50$ he'll throw in the 10 bonus audio tapes...It can all be revealed to you now for the low low price of 39,999.95

**illusions** · 11-03-2007 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

I can't give you anything except a point of view from my personal subjective experience with the knowledge regarding the law of attraction. Let me first correct a misconception that it seems you and a lot of people who think as you do cling to. The law of attraction is DEAD unless you take action. With thoughts what you want is brought to you and with action it is received. When I was 18, I began reading into the law of attraction and learning all about it. I ordered many books, sat down and had one-on one conversations with multi-millionaires who attest to it being the reason why they are where they are today. I learned and continued to read deeper and deeper until I found common themes in some of the world's most successful people. As I said before (which I'd like to bring emphasis to yet again), The law of attraction is useless unless you take massive action. So thegnome, if you go into a forest and think with all your might for a BMW to appear...you'll be walking home. However, if you focus your thoughts consciously towards a BMW, you will inevitably start noticicing BMW's more, hearing about them more, or even (as fate would have it?) sit next to a guy on a bus who wants to sell his used BMW for a low deal. Don't be ignorant...of course our reticular activating system plays a major part in this "selective focus" as well, but so does the law. Going back to me, at the age of 18 I did not see the college life as my avenue to go down so after studying/conversing with some of the world's most successful people, I started a business of my own. To make a long story short, I applied (and still continue to apply) the lessons I've read about, learned, heard, studied and emulated. I became aware of my thought direction and started focusing my thoughts on purpose. My business is amazing and I am loving this ride and journey in life. In a month I will be 20. At the rate my business is expanding, I should be a millionaire by my 21st birthday. The first one from my family. Before you or any others ridicule, discredit and even (pointlessly) try to debunk the law of attraction, do you even UNDERSTAND it? Have you tried attracting something to you (not ignorantly trying to attract, i.e. BMW in woods) at all? I can't say anything bad about Buddhism because I don't fully understand it, don't know much about it, but am intrigued by enough to try to understand it without ridiculing it while at the same time keep my mouth shut about what I don't know.

Also a common theme I've noticed is that those who are wealthy/successful in the earth know the importance about focused thoughts, mindset, action etc...which is the law of attraction in a nutshell. If you can find one, go ask them about it.

Excellent post Jeff!!

You've made some really important and valuable points, and CONGRATULATIONS!!! on your Fabulous life so far!

I'm so Excited for you, that you've made this discovery so young, which enables you to have the life you want. Good for You!

thegnome:

A complete lack of experimental evidence or solid scientific backing.

We know very, very, very little about quantum mechanics (if anything, really), and I will not take an interview with some random dude as proof of anything.

Do the research yourself, and expand your mind - go and sit out in the middle of a forest, away from any other people, and use this 'law' to attract a BMW. Go ahead.

I reiterate, there is no such thing as the law of attraction (I'm using 'law' as the scientific term as is implied by proponents of this stuff). There are few enough scientific laws as it is, and this is most definitely not one of them.

Lol

Gnome, I wasn't going to answer this post because I get the impression you've chosen this belief and want to stick to it regardless, which I'm perfectly cool with - as I've said before, I have no desire to change anyone's point of view. My posts are for those who DO want to know more about the LOA

But since you said:

I agree with you, but why not help her out a bit?

You still haven't addressed my forest BMW challenge. If you claim that it stems from a misunderstanding of the law, then at least correct me.

... I thought I'd answer ....

thegnome:

A complete lack of experimental evidence or solid scientific backing.

We know very, very, very little about quantum mechanics (if anything, really), and I will not take an interview with some random dude as proof of anything.

What experiments have you researched/ read or heard about/ conducted yourself?

And what "random dude" are you referring to? Do you know who the interview is with, and do you know his background? I just want to be sure I know where you're getting your "facts" from

thegnome:

Do the research yourself, and expand your mind - go and sit out in the middle of a forest, away from any other people, and use this 'law' to attract a BMW. Go ahead.

Heh heh... now see, since I discovered the LOA, I only do what feels good, and I honestly can think of nothing more boring than sitting in the middle of a forest trying to attract a BMW! But I did attract the car I want by simply wanting it, and then focusing on feeling good

It came in the way of a gift out of the blue from a family member - and I absolutely LOVE it!

Jeff has also answered the BMW in the forest thing really well.

thegnome:

I reiterate, there is no such thing as the law of attraction (I'm using 'law' as the scientific term as is implied by proponents of this stuff). There are few enough scientific laws as it is, and this is most definitely not one of them.

I'm genuinely interested in knowing your scientific background gnome - naturally we know very little about each other, and I'm interested to know how involved you are in science?

It's also interesting to know that, as I've mentioned in a previous post, there are educated, intelligent people who still, today, swear the earth is flat. They are as certain that the earth is flat (and claim there is no evidence that it is a globe) as you are that there is no LOA.... and as certain as I am that there is.

My point is that if someone has chosen a belief that makes sense to them, and if they are determined to stick to that belief regardless, then any "evidence" or "proof" or "argument" presented to them, they will "pooh-pooh", ridicule, and disregard without thorough consideration and without researching it. Which is why I completely accept what others believe as true - for them. It's only people who are genuinely interested in finding out more about the subject that I'm interested in sharing with.

Otherwise it just becomes "the earth is flat" "no it's a globe", "we've done experiments that prove it's a globe", "there are no such experiments" "what about the space program and photos from space?", "the space program is a hoax, and the photos are fake - government conspiracy." - I'm not making this up - these are the arguments on the flat-earth forum. And the people who believe the earth is flat have a counter-argument for every argument for "the earth is a globe". And, hey, they may be right

I certainly have no desire to convince them the earth is a globe lol. I'm happy with my own belief.

So, Gnome, if you're really interested in finding out more about the LOA and the research and experiments that have been done, then I've posted plenty of links here for you to find out more. If you have no interest in finding out more, and are determined to stick to what you believe regardless, then cool. Enjoy.

Love and Light and Choice xxx

**Jeff777** · 11-03-2007 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by SolSkye

And, for an extra 50$ he'll throw in the 10 bonus audio tapes...It can all be revealed to you now for the low low price of 39,999.95

That...is why you'll always be poor...and people like me will be on top and people like you will be asking people like me if we want fries with that.

And you want to know the best part? That's perfectly fine.

Illusions and I aren't trying to convince anyone. That's why it took me awhile to respond to thegnome...initially I wasn't going to at all lol. I have more important things to do then try to sway a person already set in their beliefs. This may sound harsh, but you all really aren't worth any more of my time.

p.s. big fan of the BTTF trilogies

**Cyclic13** · 11-03-2007 05:34 PM

Why do you assume I'm poor? I have my own business, too. Actually, a business overseas here in Japan to be more specific. Tsk tsk...see where those rash subjective judgements lead you?

If obtaining the imaginary dollars and cents outside of you is what gets your rocks off, then so be it. But don't act as if by earning some meaningless digits it somehow puts you in a higher status bracket than me, son. If I felt those little numbers to be so important I would've already done laps around you, and probably have in many regards. Fortunately for you, I have different priorities and I couldn't care less about how many of those meaningless digits are in my pocketbook, but needless to say, I have enough to be well taken care of. I already have what I want and build from there...Creativity, inspiration, and music being some of them.

To each their own. Good luck on your quest to be the first in your family to get the highest score in the pinball game. Make sure those initials stay at the top as long as economy holds and someone doesn't trip over the power cable and the lights go out.

With all due respect, allow me to step into my subjective ego for just one quick side question. I see you are in Mississippi. Pardon my bias from my past dealings with other people from Mississippi on here, but, what on earth could possibly be so lucrative coming out of Mississippi? I just don't see it. Besides, Textile steel mills, roofing, and TV/VCR repair...What else is there? I don't get it. The next Dixie Chicks album?

Besides a chance at scoring with a relative...what could possibly be so hot about residing and setting up shop in Mississippi? Especially a successful enough business to afford one the free time to spend the last 3 months writing 854 posts and looking for the proverbial pat on the back on a DreamViews web site? Dunno... Perhaps I'm the only one here, but...a red flag went up on that for me. Can we say, delusions of grandeur much? I doubt being a mere consultant GEOFFREY R HARPER (2257259) for a drink company based out of Utah pays all that well. Or am I missing something? :shrugs: [/subjective ego trip]

Thinking with the ego can be fun for a while, and even give you a sharp pang of power for a split second, but those moments don't last for very long. As it goes with any subjective choice you jump on with blind passion and fervor...Unfortunately, at the end of the day those subjective choices we cling to so desperately more often than not just end up making us look a dick.

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