Originally Posted by
Howie
no no no no no. This is great!! These event have happened to me many times before. This is great. Reading many many experiences, I do not know if it is normal though. Which is not bad. It just seems that I have had several experience that I cannot relay to many people. When I see it written as you have, I know, it is worded specifically so. :)
I need to address Sleep paralysis. SP is an action or lack there of. It is a cause and effect. Becasue of this, some may NEVER experience SP. Although subjective I believe some feel that they can induce SP, possibly they can manipulate the "state of being" to such a degree. It is my belief that it is our endevours to lucid dream and to become aware at dreaming intervals that puts US in a good scenario for SP to happen rather than us creating SP. I guess that is neither here nor their.
I do think it is important to NOT associate SP with the success or even the means or signs of Lucidity.
Sleep paralysis. === As we fall asleep our motor functions are shut down as we enter a Rapid eye movement period. All but our eyes. Hence, rapid EYE movement. The movement of our eyes follow that of the movement in our dreams. The rest of us is paralyzed, this in effect prohibits us from flailing around in our sleep. As we awake from a dream state there are times that we awake before our brain conveys a message to turn our motor skills back on. SO we lay there, aware but unable to move. (this is why it should not be scary) SP can last from moments to minutes. I have had it last long enough that I did begin to get shaken, as If it was not coming back to me. But it does. ;) There are always variables. Like the case in which we do jump around in our sleep, mumble or what have you. This being the same example turned the other way around.
oooooy -enough about SP. Just realize it is no gauge to which lucidity is judged by.
You put yourself in the PERFECT setting for WBTB as you know.
Our sleeping mind, for a alack of a better word is still ready to go. Our waking mind was activated and awaken enough to be engaged actively and more readily. Having gone back to bed you quickly fall into a REM cycle and have just within your reach the conscious mind. (which you just aroused) even better with engaging in a more rigorous mind frame. Homework
This vivd HI was in reaction to the above scenario. Just as you are in a realm of a quick WBTB experience comes with it HI. Which is no more than subconscious intervals of visualization. THIS time however you were aware of them. One more sign of being closer to your awareness of a sleeping state. One more way to induce a WILD. HIT is a WILD, just via enhanced imagery to get there. easier IMO.
SO it seems to me all these experiences were in and around a dream. As you had made a conscious movement, your conscious waking mind took over the scene. Then again you did a RC in which it seemed real. When you felt this shift you had shifted into a dream. Becasue you had not convinced yourself of that, it seemed real, the events again unfolded like the first. You snapped yourself out of a state of subconscious thought.
Now the black vision..... This will sound contradictory and because it seemingly is, I cannot tell you 100% what stage of consciousness you are in. I am going to guess the first because of the beginning stage of sleep that you describe.
In my experience, this stage of a monochromatic scene (mine often brown) I think is also a between stage, much like SP but visually. - seems to make sense. :P
I have had on only a few occasions fallen into a state I believe to be both. This had come after the direct event of very very vivd, life like lucid dreams. I had Partially woke up to have neither my vision, just black, brown or who knows. In addition I was in a SP state. I called the experience a void when it had happened. I was in a void of just consciousness for there was nothing else.
Some had explained this to me as a near death experience. At the time I had been to no surprise a little scared. I do not believe this is the case. Why would it be? I have not been provided with enough substantial evidence for me to believe that there is any reason to really think so.
What is substantial is that lucid dreaming is not a belief of a mystic, a phenomenon, a hoax or imaginative, it is a physiological experience.
Good grief. With you adoption I have been explaining the events and logic behind what happens. This I feel may be a keener approach to learning Lucid dreaming. To learn anything. To know why something happens and to understand why it happens takes the why out of it. It leaves just the do. :)
The downside. I just wrote a Thesis. :? But possibly being boring maybe I put you into a sleep state. :laughhard:
yelizaveta, you were in a dream. You just were not completely aware that you were.
Happy dreaming!!! :dreaming:
