Wow, I've never thought of telling a DC that they didn't exist Of the seven LD's I've had, I've only really talked with one DC. I was asking the DC personal questions, not too personal, just get to know you type questions. After a few questions the DC got very aggitated and told me to leave and I told it that I like to fly and jumped away from it and floated to the ground. I've got a whole list of things I want to try in an LD. Now I have one more Now I just need to manage to make them last more than just a few minutes.