First time

**Google** · 06-09-2005 06:47 AM

Hey! First post. So I was out of town in a hotel room and I fell asleep and a second later I was dozing off/dreaming that I was in my backyard, I then became lucid and I knew i was dreaming so I thought "I want to see a monster come busting through my gate". And that happend, the monster flew through it, and the gate broke into peices. This lasted about five seconds until I thought "hey it's easy to astral project from this state" I tried that, but its very scary, tried to wake up, I was temporarley parilysed. I had been trying to astral project for a few months. After that first experience with Lucid dreaming, I'm hooked! I'm just happy I did it. I used to do this when i was like 10-11 and I would be controlling my actions. Mabe i'll try APing later. The method I used wasn't any method at all, I just was conscience when I dozed off ,mabe WILD?. What was your first method?

**Clairity** · 06-11-2005 05:10 AM

Hey first post and first lucid dream.. Congrats on both!

My first method.. I had my first lucid dream while wearing a NovaDreamer mask during an afternoon nap, however the vast majority of my LDs are via WILDS and the wbtb method.

**Google** · 06-11-2005 05:17 AM

WOW! I did it again. I took a nap around 3:00 pm and I was completley lucid for a long time (or atleast it felt like a long time). I just tried to stay conscience while falling asleep, and it worked. I don't remember alot of it but i do remember controlling myself and doing alot of different things. The last thing i dreamt, was I was having a bloody nose and it felt so real so i woke up. I just need to work on remembering the dreams now.

**Google** · 06-11-2005 05:19 AM

Oh yeah, In the middle of this I "woke up" (but I really woke up in my dream) and I looked at the time and it was 5:00 am! I was amazed how long I had slept so I "went back to sleep" I need to do more "am I dreaming" thoughts during the day, and reality checks.

**Rakkantekimusouka** · 06-11-2005 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Google
Oh yeah, In the middle of this I \"woke up\" (but I really woke up in my dream) and I looked at the time and it was 5:00 am! I was amazed how long I had slept so I \"went back to sleep\" I need to do more \"am I dreaming\" thoughts during the day, and reality checks.

Just FYI, that's called a "False Awakening" or "FA" and it's very common. This is where Reality Checks (RCs) come in the handiest! Apparently the best methods include sticking your finger through your palm (or trying to) and pinching your nose shut and trying to breathe.

**Leo Volont** · 06-11-2005 05:59 AM

Originally posted by Rakkantekimusouka

Just FYI, that's called a \"False Awakening\" or \"FA\" and it's very common. This is where Reality Checks (RCs) come in the handiest! Apparently the best methods include sticking your finger through your palm (or trying to) and pinching your nose shut and trying to breathe.

Dear Rakkantekimusouka,

Did you not ever wonder why the Higher Self goes to such lengths to protect the integrity of Dreaming, and have you ever wondered at the wisdom of defeating the intent of the Higher Mind by circumventing its safeguards?

Recently one person posted who after having boasted that he was a preemminent Lucid Dreamer, but that he had a spate of False Awakenings, that a curse came upon him which prevented him from ever again even remembering his dreams. Apparently you can only defy the Higher Mind so long before it quite loses patience and makes its final ruling.

There are honest and lawful uses for Lucidity. Knowing that one is dreaming gives us the knowledge that we are indestructable, which opens up a wide degree of choice which we would not have if we still thought we had need of fear. And we have a broader range in our own Behavior and even over our own persons. But we violate the Rules when we tamper with the Dream Scenarios and cast our Witches Spells over the other Dream Characters. It is cheating. We must make honest choices. We must respect the integrity of the Dream Stories as they are presented. If we must fight enemies, then we must fight with honest weapons and not by altering the dream. The same with love. We must honestly woo our dream companions, and not hump veritable Dream Blowup Dolls.

How do we know we are abiding by the Rules? We will be able to be Lucid without False Awakenings forever trying to shake us off.

And yet we have so-called Lucid Dream Experts counselling newbies on means of defying the Wisdom of their Higher Minds. and what for? For the Lucid Dream parlor tricks that these Lucid Dream Experts take so much pride in... until their Higher Mind shuts them down for good and they write in complaing of years at an time without remembering a single dream.

False Awakenings are a warning. That is what we should be telling these newbies.

**Rakkantekimusouka** · 06-11-2005 06:06 AM

Dear Leo,

Please for the love of Din, Nayru, and Farore, stop formatting every single goddamn post like a letter. A private message I can understand, as it is like a letter to a single other person, but a regular post, which is more like an informal public bulletin, need not begin with "Dear whomever," every single time. Just stop. Thank you.

That said...while FAs may in a sense be these so-called "warnings", I see them more as simply glitches. If you clear all the "fire and brimstone" smoke that you've clouded it with, you can see that...that's what it is, they are.

**Frostysunflower** · 06-11-2005 08:12 AM

Originally posted by Leo Volont+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Leo Volont)</div>

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Just FYI, that's called a \"False Awakening\" or \"FA\" and it's very common. This is where Reality Checks (RCs) come in the handiest! Apparently the best methods include sticking your finger through your palm (or trying to) and pinching your nose shut and trying to breathe.

Dear Rakkantekimusouka,

Did you not ever wonder why the Higher Self goes to such lengths to protect the integrity of Dreaming, and have you ever wondered at the wisdom of defeating the intent of the Higher Mind by circumventing its safeguards?

Recently one person posted who after having boasted that he was a preemminent Lucid Dreamer, but that he had a spate of False Awakenings, that a curse came upon him which prevented him from ever again even remembering his dreams. Apparently you can only defy the Higher Mind so long before it quite loses patience and makes its final ruling.

There are honest and lawful uses for Lucidity. Knowing that one is dreaming gives us the knowledge that we are indestructable, which opens up a wide degree of choice which we would not have if we still thought we had need of fear. And we have a broader range in our own Behavior and even over our own persons. But we violate the Rules when we tamper with the Dream Scenarios and cast our Witches Spells over the other Dream Characters. It is cheating. We must make honest choices. We must respect the integrity of the Dream Stories as they are presented. If we must fight enemies, then we must fight with honest weapons and not by altering the dream. The same with love. We must honestly woo our dream companions, and not hump veritable Dream Blowup Dolls.

How do we know we are abiding by the Rules? We will be able to be Lucid without False Awakenings forever trying to shake us off.

And yet we have so-called Lucid Dream Experts counselling newbies on means of defying the Wisdom of their Higher Minds. and what for? For the Lucid Dream parlor tricks that these Lucid Dream Experts take so much pride in... until their Higher Mind shuts them down for good and they write in complaing of years at an time without remembering a single dream.

False Awakenings are a warning. That is what we should be telling these newbies.[/b]

If you think that lucid dreaming is against nature then why are you here?

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