Thread: Sensei's Sexy Competition

Originally Posted by Sensei

Oops, missed this. Goals stack like so:
I want to fall asleep in a dream as a personal goal, so I put teleport as my first of the 3 step task as well. So lets say I fall asleep in a dream.
teleport 10 points
3 step 5 points
old personal task 10 points
total = 25 points
We are trying to get people points for planning out and achieving dream goals, so 3 steps and personal are stackable, but remember that each of them have their own individual restrictions to assure people don't go crazy with this, while still getting awesome points for this.

So it the exact opposite of how I assumed: you can count a single action in *as many categories* as you can. What are the limits then?

Originally Posted by FryingMan

So it the exact opposite of how I assumed: you can count a single action in *as many categories* as you can. What are the limits then?

Everything has its own limit, three step is once per week, personal once per night, normal tasks are one per dream. I don't want adding points to become a game in and of itself. Just add all that apply. Picking three steps that work with your personal goals is good.

Originally Posted by Higat

In one night ! That is great

It's like they're teasing us!!!
Gurrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!

One thing that would really work is for us to think of ourselves not just as individuals trying to hustle points to win, but as a team working on stacking up points to accomplish this TOGETHER!!! Elcifer, ExothermReacton, MrPriority, Samael, let's show them what we've all got!! As a group battle!!!!

Originally Posted by Sensei

Everything has its own limit, three step is once per week, personal once per night, normal tasks are one per dream. I don't want adding points to become a game in and of itself. Just add all that apply. Picking three steps that work with your personal goals is good.

So one could theoretically arrange to score one action with base/advanced+personal+3-step+team+challenge+totm+etc. if they all apply to that one action...

Originally Posted by FryingMan

So one could theoretically arrange to score one action with base/advanced+personal+3-step+team+challenge+totm+etc. if they all apply to that one action...

Yeah, but the challenge, totm, toty, and team tasks don't really lean towards one action. Maybe an advanced summon of your teammate as a 3 step and a some team points, but your personal can't be exactly like the other tasks, so it might be something like "have teammate shove me." Then when your teammate shoves you, you slip into a black hole, but looking at this, it is definitely more than one action, and if you have that much dream control it might just be easier to do all the dream control in a second a s these can be done anywhere.

Originally Posted by LouaiB

It's like they're teasing us!!!
Gurrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!

One thing that would really work is for us to think of ourselves not just as individuals trying to hustle points to win, but as a team working on stacking up points to accomplish this TOGETHER!!! Elcifer, ExothermReacton, MrPriority, Samael, let's show them what we've all got!! As a group battle!!!!

I am in for it!
That actually made me even more motivated. Time to get lucid now!

Frikin awesome plan! A pack of tigers taking on the giant! Sounds pretty epic to me, count me in.

Let's take em down!

Night 1:

I remember nothing = 0 pts

Great start...

Night 1:

2 fragments - 1 pt

Night 1 Total - 1 pt
Competition Total - 1 pt

Originally Posted by FryingMan

It will only take 57 sleep cycles, recalling 4 dreams every sleep cycle, or ~10 days to match that first day score, so I'd better start getting lucid because I do not intend to wake up every 1.5 hours!

I intend to wake up that often after the 5 HTP wears off, last Thursday when I thought the contest started earlier I was using alarm to wake up every half hour just to practice fragmenting my sleep. Now I only wake naturally.

I don't know how some people can recall like many dreams without waking up after every cycle, the other night I woke up 3 times and journaled on computer, then computer rebooted and lost all the dreams, luckily when I woke up to write down the 4th dream I remembered the 2nd one, but lost the 1st and third ones completely. I tried hard but could only get impressions of one and fragment of other.

Without waking up I can only remember several segments of the same dream, it may seem like 5 dreams but I can remember the transitions, even if they make little sense and so count them as one (especially as usually I have only been asleep for like 40 - 100 min and so couldn't have dreamed more than 2 dreams)

Originally Posted by cooleymd

I intend to wake up that often after the 5 HTP wears off, last Thursday when I thought the contest started earlier I was using alarm to wake up every half hour just to practice fragmenting my sleep. Now I only wake naturally.

I don't know how some people can recall like many dreams without waking up after every cycle, the other night I woke up 3 times and journaled on computer, then computer rebooted and lost all the dreams, luckily when I woke up to write down the 4th dream I remembered the 2nd one, but lost the 1st and third ones completely. I tried hard but could only get impressions of one and fragment of other.

Without waking up I can only remember several segments of the same dream, it may seem like 5 dreams but I can remember the transitions, even if they make little sense and so count them as one (especially as usually I have only been asleep for like 40 - 100 min and so couldn't have dreamed more than 2 dreams)

I wake up all the time during the night. Last night was an off night for me, but I still woke up 3 times.

I really don't like the idea of supplements because they really throw off your natural rythm.

Heee, you guys flatter me!
AnotherDreamer actually topped my score on the first night though, he was just more modest with his non-bold announcement.

Originally Posted by AnotherDreamer

Competition Total: 33 + 53 + 1 + 73 + 95 = 255

Nothing awesome for me yet, 3 full dreams, hence 3 points.

As for goals and stuff...

3-step tasks:
1. Flying
2. Advanced Flying
3. Element Manipulation (preferably fire breathing)

Personal Goals:
OLD - Transform into Ryuuko
NEW - Get a good impression of how Ryuuko looks
NEW - Further the dream plot of DsC



There were however a few weird dreams. I'm not quite sure about a few parts, where I know I was somewhat dreaming and at the same time actively thinking and processing, yet not really lucid. It was weird but I take it as a good sign.

Originally Posted by StaySharp

NEW - Further the dream plot of DSC

Might join you on that

Adding some new old personal goals:
OLD
Visit Zödra
Visit Dreamer's Reach

Ugh, not that great of a start at all:

If I had pretty much the exact same dream 4 different times, do I get to count them separately?

If so:


Day 1
4 fragments: 2 pts
2 full non-lucid dreams: 2 pts
(failed) RC: 1 pt


Day 1 total: 5 pts
Competition total: 5 pts

Day 1:
- 1 NLD (1pt)
- 3 DJ comments (1pt)
TOTAL POINTS: 2

I think I was going to do a WBTB but fell asleep.

OK, off to a somewhat decent start, with perhaps my earliest comp LD yet at night #2, not very high scoring although it *almost* approached a personal goal, but not quite.

As for recalling dreams without noticing wakings, yes it's tough, and detail definitely suffers. On big recall nights, I do notice wakings, but sometimes I don't record, but I do mentally journal, and create and maintain a mental list of all dreams throughout the night, and record only in the morning. Some detail does suffer, sometimes later dreams overwrite earlier ones or earlier ones are forgotten, but it's a compromise vs. waking up too much and losing more dream time/sleep time. I did this last night and managed to maintain the important impressions from most dreams. It's also an excellent way to exercise recall and stretch your dream memory storage. But if you want absolutely every single detail possible, recording at each waking is pretty much required. Recording also relieves the pressure from having to spend time refreshing the list on every waking, so there is that also as a trade-off.

2015-08-18 (my dates always are "just after midnight") comp night #1

5 dreams: 5
2 fragments: 1
WBTB: 2

night #1 total: 8

7 dreams: 7
2 fragments: 2
WBTB: 2
DILD: 10
interact with a DC: 2

night #2 total: 23

comp total @ night #2: 8 + 23 = 31

Full DJ Entry

Day 2: 1 fragment - work related - ugh, they don't pay me for this (0.5pts)
I then tried to WBTB (2pts) but could not fall back to sleep thinking too much about work - arg!

Day 2 total 2.5pts

COMP Total: 3 + 2.5 = 5.5pts

Originally Posted by PercyLucid

L-DEILD (2ND WILD) 5 pts

Hey Percy, just making sure you read the replies that Sensei and I provided for your question about L-DEILD (here and here).
If my understanding of your L-DEILD technique is correct, it means that you wake yourself up from a lucid dream and DEILD back in.
Based on the definitions in the OP, that would only earn 2 points for "Chain a Dream", not 5 points for a new WILD:

• First WILD of the Night - 10 points
• Subsequent WILDs - 5 points
Note: DEILD after a non-lucid dream counts as a WILD

• Chain a Lucid Dream - 2 points
Return to a lucid dream after a brief awakening mid-LD

Originally Posted by PercyLucid

Out from a crappy lucid dream, perform L-DEILD forcing awakening. Maybe one per night? Not farming but one at least should be fine (per night)

I think 1/night sounds fair, like you said though, no point farming. It does give you a slight point/dream advantage over people who use in-dream methods to stabilise/prolong their dreams, so be wary of the spamming rule and only use it when you actually need to.

Night 2:

2 dreams - 2 pts
WBTB - 2 pts

Night 2 Total - 4 pts
Competition Total - 5 pts

Originally Posted by KestrelKat

(failed) RC: 1 pt

hmm we get points for failed RC or only when in lucid dream?

If so in one of the dreams below I was licking stuff off my hand and spitting out the salty taste (an eating stuff/ RC combo we'll call it the faux chocolate hand reality check, but only if it works)

Day 1 points = 5
Day 2 (200-5HTP 75-B6 100Melatonin)
1 fragments +.5
4 dreams +4 (10:30pm, 12:45am, 1:40am, 3:00am)
wbtb +2
2 hrs insomnia +0 (3am-5am gave up 4am)
=======
6.5 points

dream 1 driving around, latter sorting thru stuff what to keep throw, later find proof of need for design
dream 2 defending van and objects in parking lot form old and young woman thieves walking off with stuff
dream 3 offending slightly insane midget in an auditorium event
fragment some type of new security algorithm where your identified by know sequence of events that happened to you
I'll now patent it as the 'big brother 1984 all day awareness multi-factorial authentication'
dream 4 some event and rearranging desks and cleaning up afterwards

total 11.5 points

Day 2:

1 Fragment : .5 point
2 Dreams : 2 points
WBTB: 2 points

Nightly total: 4.5 points
Competition total: 37.5 points

Day 2:
Remember a Non-Lucid Fragment: 1
Remember a Full Non-Lucid Dream: 1
WBTB (success or failure) - 2

Day Total: 4 points
Comp Total: 9 points

http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/zach...p-day-2-69144/