Thread: REM DReamer works! Sort Of...

I ordered a REM dreamer about 1.5 weeks ago. It arrived on Friday. I remember reading that they are really slow to ship - but to be fair I was very surprised and pleased to receive mine after only a week and a bit.

I decided to try the device to see if I could get Lucid mid week. I work in downtown chicago Tuesday thru Friday and have to get up very early (4:15am) and dont get to bed until 11:00pm. So although I normally have at least one or two dreams per work night - I dont really have enough time for WBTB. Therefore I decided to see if the REM dreamer could help with this. I normally get lucid at least once or twice at the weekend - but cant seem to crack mid week dreaming with the short time I have.

Spent most of the weekend figuring it out and playing with the Pro software and interface.

Couldnt get it to work at all - then realized I was setting the delay time wrong.

It worked fine last night after setting the time delay manually with the dials.

I must have had the sensitivity setting too high. I set my alarm for 4 hours of sleep - then set the delay, took some supplements and went back to bed. The REM dreamer went off a number of times while I was dozing or just hovering around the wake/sleep boundary.

Then I had a lucid. I was dreaming that I was in my bedroom (which is quite large) and sitting in one of the armchairs in front of our bedroom home cinema equipment in the dark. In the other chair was a black guy I have never met. He was amazed by the REM Dreamer, which I was showing to him. I was explaining the delay function, how the infra-red REM movement detector worked and the cues etc. I suddenly realized that the armchairs were facing the wrong way and I had no idea who the black guy was or what he was doing in my bedroom at night "This is a dream - Im Lucid!". So then I fly up through the roof but wake up almost immediately.

The REM dreamer didnt fire - Im pretty sure because all of the above must have happended within the three minutes delay built into the device to give the dream a chance to solidify.

So LOL - had a lucid last night dreaming about the REM Dreamer - without the REM DReamer going off!

I turned down the senisitivity for tonight and will see what happens.

Wow that's cool. I can't wait to hear about what happens.

I think I have it cracked now. At first the settings were two high.

I then turned everything down and the last few nights the REM Dreamer was triggered 3-6 times but did not wake me (I did not notice the cues either). I have the sensitivity set right now. I have increased the brightness of the cues today.

I also have the delay time cracked - I found that setting the delay manually before bed works much better. I set the dials to 9:1 and turn it on - then turn the dials to 0:0 and press the button (1 press per ten minutes of delay time).

Now its Friday I will have the chance tonight to use it for WBTB. Will post what occurs over the weekend.

I am also in the Chicago suburbs and just ordered a REM Dreamer on friday night. Glad to hear it came relatively fast. Did you receive any information from the company with shipping details or anything? Or even a "thank you for ordering" message? I'm hoping to hear something from them just to know it's coming. Of course I ordered it on the weekend and it's not yet monday. Also, how's it working for you? Have you tried the TWC feature?

Gameover,

I ordered it and paid with PayPal on August 12 - and got the usual confirmation/receipt etc.

I got an email from someone called PawelH (the owner presumeably) on the 18th saying that the REM DReamer Pro had shipped - I think I got it about 5 days later.

I was surprised how quick it was as I had seen various posts about the process taking a long time. I thought the process was very quick and efficient.

The unit works fine and I now have the "right" settings for me.

I must say that I have not had a full lucid induced directly by the device. This is probably not the fault of the device. I can get lucid without any device at the weekend when I can get a decent 8 hours or more sleep. I bought the device specifically for during the work week when I only get 5-6 hours - I never get lucid during the work week.

Interestingly this morning I had a false awakening that was directly due to the REM Dreamer. I was dreaming that I was dozing in bed and had taken the REM Dreamer OFF. I was woken by the flashing cues and felt my wife pressing the unit against my face. I said "what are you doing?" - she laughed and said "I think the flashing lights are funny". I said "go away and leave me alone - you have to get ready for work". She walked into our bathroom and I rolled over and went back to sleep. Then the cues flashed AGAIN - and I woke up (for real) - it was still dark and I was wearing the REM DReamer. I realized the first awakening was false - my wife doesnt even know how to work the unit - let alone press it to my face and make it cue.

I have had many many dreams where the cues must have been assimilated into my dream. My dream diary is full "sudden blinding flashes" - often in my dream I sheild my eyes and carry one with the dream without realizing what the flashes were - still early days.

When the cues go off and wake me I am training myself by saying over and over "When ever I see these flashing red lights I will know I am dreaming and become lucid. Like I said - early days.

So it works- and shows much promise - but Im still at the phase of trying to recognise the cues while dreaming.

I had an excellent lucid on FRiday night - The cues woke me - so obviously I was in a REM cycle. I then went straight into a DEILD or mini WILD - I just lay still and held onto my conciousness and went immediately into a full lucid where I found my self flying over a monochromatic dessert at night.

So it helps me get lucid even indirectly - I have now dreamt of the unit several times and had some false awakenings.

I will try the TWC feature next. I must admit I did not read the full instructions and I thought this feature was the one that plays WAV files if you are linked up to a PC with headphones - which I dont bother with. Therefore a big thanks to you! Now I actually know what the TWC feature is it looks like it will be a big help. Especially mid week when the unit only generates 10 or 12 series of cues due to the shorter REM time I have available.

Will set it up now and try it this week.

Right after reading your post I got an email saying it was shipped. Hopefully it's here for the weekend. I think their reputation for slow delivery was from before. Their website used to seem shady and they were hard to reach. Seems they've improved their product and customer service.

The TWC feature is one of the main reasons I got it so please let me know if you have any success with it. Of course it's just an aid and a busy schedule can always derail lucid dreaming plans. Good luck.

Well after reading this thread I think I'm convinced. I just ordered the REM-Dreamer. Hopefully this device is as good as I hope it is.

hi,

may i know who those who has purchase this remdreamer, do u guys still experience lucid dream now??
how about the new version of nova dreamer mask ?


thanks

I have one, I love the idea of it but i have never got lucid from it

Recall has to be really good to get any use from it ^^

i have heard many ppl not able to exp lucid dream from this remdreamer...think this device not working well...

Well I just got my REM-Dreamer a few days ago and I have already had one lucid dream from it. I am still messing with the settings though to find something comfortable, at first it was constantly waking me up. But I think the device can work. I am going to give it another week or two and then write a full review. Wish me luck.

hi cyber,

how is your testign with the remdreamer now?

I had my best successes with this in the first two weeks. I didn't get completely lucid with it, but I got closer than I ever have been. I haven't tried it for a month or two now, but the last few times I tried it I either didn't wake up, or more often I woke up to discover I had taken it off in my sleep.

Originally Posted by evildoctor

In the other chair was a black guy I have never met. He was amazed by the REM Dreamer, which I was showing to him. I was explaining the delay function, how the infra-red REM movement detector worked and the cues etc. I suddenly realized that the armchairs were facing the wrong way and I had no idea who the black guy was or what he was doing in my bedroom at night

LOL. Sounds like a good deal.

How does this comlare with Kvasar? I was to build one, but if this is better, might as well save time.

Ordered mine REM Dreamer before 2 days, I hope it will speed up my learning in lucid dreaming.

Got my REM Dreamer yesterday, after ordering on the 15th. Really nice build, but I am modding the strap, so it isn't just velcro. Fell off last night

Hey guys...
Glad to hear it works...but...
I have a big question...
I'm thinking of buying it,but scared that it will lessen my natural ability to Lucid Dream...
I'm glad that there's a device that helps,but I wanna do it the natural way every now and then..
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
-Sam

Received my rem dreamer before 5 days and haven't had any success at all. All the nights in which I put it on before going to bed and wake up after ~5 hours to try wake back to bed technic, the device is just frozen and does not respond. So, now I only put it on only after half of the night. The device is constructed unprofessionally, it's just a microchip not covered or protected with any plastic. That's, most likely, the reason it bugs. If you want to learn lucid dreaming, do it by practicing and training your mind, not by buying such stupid devices as I did.

It doesn't create LDs; it acts as an artificial reality check during the time you are guaranteed to be dreaming.

@up

Yes, there are no devices, substances(at least, I don't know any) that will guarantee you lucid dreaming. But, the thing I was saying is that the device is not working as they promised it would, it is bugged. Also, some white substance has appeared on the microchips opposite side of LCD display. Here are the photos of how it looks like:

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8...0827165827.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6...0827165849.jpg

I mailed the creator of this mask with some questions, if anyone is interested, I will post his reply, if he will answer.

Originally Posted by richux

@up

Yes, there are no devices, substances(at least, I don't know any) that will guarantee you lucid dreaming. But, the thing I was saying is that the device is not working as they promised it would, it is bugged. Also, some white substance has appeared on the microchips opposite side of LCD display. Here are the photos of how it looks like:

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8...0827165827.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6...0827165849.jpg

I mailed the creator of this mask with some questions, if anyone is interested, I will post his reply, if he will answer.

Hey
Wooow...what the hell is that?
Kinda looks like wax....or mold
-Sam

Looks like the solder is melting or something. You said you got it in the mail like that?

na, it appeared in 2nd or 3rd day, don't remember exactly. Here is what the creator of mask e-mailed me back ;d

Hello.
White substance that apeared on pins means that water was on that pins.
We don't know what happened to that REM-Dreamer that water was on the pins.
Maybe batteries poured out.
All that means that REM-Dreamer may not work correctly.
Can you send it back for repair?

He seems to have problems with English :S Anyway, I don't think I will send it back, cuz it kinda works, just sometimes freezes and bugs and the bugging thing has nothing to do with the white substance, because it bugged on the first day too....

He's from Poland so his first language wouldn't be English.

I modded my mask's strap, so it stayed on all night. CRAZY thing though: I "remember" dreaming, but it's like forgotten memories. Like I remember doing something that felt real, but I dunno. I upped my settings for tonight, so hopefully, I can see the indicator. My REM generated 48 cues, so I had to lower that setting a bit (to 3). We'll see what happens.