Look here before using any lucid aids!

Especially if you use any chemical

Look here:

If you cannot LD easy it means that you do something wrong.

If so what the reason to search the solving of this problem in aids? Better find what you do wrong

No one has stable practice by them.
You can have real stable practice only by your own way. Degradation VS self-improvement


Thousands of my LD prove it for me very clearly. I hope my words will help somebody. It would better to delete all this sub-forum

At face value, this just makes you sound very arrogant. Who are you to say they are doing something wrong by using aids?

They should search what they do wrong!
Many people cannot do technics properly but think that technics are idle

That's why they come here, no? Ask for help and get it. What you're saying is that LD'ing is easy and comes naturally to you, at least thats what I interpret your post as. Not everybody is that lucky.

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Originally Posted by MikeMk

They should search what they do wrong!
Many people cannot do technics properly but think that technics are idle

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And just how do you know? Members use aids for many different reasons. Whether it's for recall or to have LDs, it does not mean that their doing something wrong. You're assuming a lot of things about members and it's making you look arrogant. Have you even looked around On-Topic? The WILD sub-forum and Attaining Lucidity aren't inactive you know. A lot of those members trying different LD methods may use aids as well, and you may never know. You really should think before you post.

I don't understand this. If there's no evidence to support that lucid aids work, do you have evidence that they DON'T at all? More importantly, most people use lucid aids for things like vividness, not to actually induce lucid dreams.

This thread is just stupid.

lock this?

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Originally Posted by Shift

This thread is just stupid.

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Agreed. I was just going to close this flat out, but it ticked me off too much.

Mike, you really need to look things over if this is your (very flawed) view on aids. You're basically calling members that use aids failures if they can't LD easily. Rockinred hit it spot on; not everyone is as lucky as you with your "Thousands" of Lucids.