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      Sota Bio Tuner

      Has anyone here experimented with this device? It seems that lucid dreaming is frequently associated with it... although often as a reported "side effect" !

      For legal reasons the company that makes it isn't allowed to say what effects one might expect from each of the six different settings. So although I now have the device, I'm not sure which setting is most likely to promote lucidity. Anyone have any insights?

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      Interesting, keep us updated on your findings

      I haven't heard of this device before

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      Quote Originally Posted by Astrius View Post
      Has anyone here experimented with this device? It seems that lucid dreaming is frequently associated with it... although often as a reported "side effect" !

      For legal reasons the company that makes it isn't allowed to say what effects one might expect from each of the six different settings. So although I now have the device, I'm not sure which setting is most likely to promote lucidity. Anyone have any insights?

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      This is interesting.. I've never heard of this device either.

      It's strange that for "legal" reasons they can't tell you what effects the settings have. Why would you sell something if you can't say what it does?

      Where did you read that a "side effect" is lucid dreaming.. I couldn't find that on the website you gave.

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      Some sites that sell the device do actually mention lucid dreaming as a positive benefit. However, as I was researching the product, I also read several articles that spoke of it as a side effect. For example:

      "The most troublesome side effect that has been noted almost universally is that it stimulates lucid dreaming. Some people who have been shut off from their dreams are a little alarmed, at first."

      And in another article:


      "Users of the BT-5 have reported startling memory transformations. A woman of Dr. Beck’s acquaintances suffered a spinal block 25 years ago and was unable to recall phone numbers or addresses. After using the BT-5 for a single day she remembered phone numbers from even 20 years earlier. Dr. Beck claims amazing things for the memory. 'They’re just there. It also a specific for stress reduction, anxiety, depression, insomnia.'

      There appears to be an overdose plateau: Forty minutes realizes good results, forty-five won’t do damage, but it undoes the benefits.

      An interesting side effect of the BT-5 pertains to lucid dreaming. Memories of dreams can be vivid and persistent. This could be an ideal device for dream researchers."

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      Looks very interesting I wonder if testimonials for this are true or if they are simply fabricated. If this device actually works that would simply be awesome. Every bit helps especially if this helps as much as it "appears" to.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Heat View Post
      Looks very interesting I wonder if testimonials for this are true or if they are simply fabricated. If this device actually works that would simply be awesome. Every bit helps especially if this helps as much as it "appears" to.
      Well it certainly does something. I tried it on Mode 4 and it lit-up my mind like a Xmas tree (that's the only way I can describe it). I went to bed that night and was still awake 6 hours later! I've since learned, however (from the information below) that Modes 3 and 6 may be better for lucid dreaming purposes. But this is just a guess.

      INFO...

      Settings 2 & 3 and 5 & 6 may be more relaxing, whereas the 111 Hz. may be more energizing. Settings 2 and 5 represent the DELTA brainwave frequency, normally associated with deep sleep and release of deeply embedded stress patterns. The 7.83 setting ( no. 3 and 6 ) represents the middle ALPHA brainwave frequency and is associated with a relaxed, but very focused mental state.

      Also, creativity, superlearning, memory improvement, intuitive insights and more. BT-7 may be used any time of day. It is important to use the BT-7 each day for 2 to 3 weeks in order to achieve the maximum benefits.

      There is no need to repeat the entire 2 to 3 weeks if you happen to skip a day or two. Following the initial series of sessions, BT-7 may be used on occasion as desired to maintain the initial improvements. For example, memory improvements may last up to 1 year before additional sessions are necessary.

      Other gains may be more temporary and require more frequent reinforcement. Individual results will vary.

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      Hmm.. I may purchase this sometime. If the woman did memorize phone numbers from 20 years earlier.. then I may definitely purchase this.

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      hi astrius,
      where did you get the info that modes 2 and 5 of the bio tuner pertain to deep sleep? On healpyourselfathome they say it's modes 1 and 4 for deep sleep and 2 and 5 for energizing. Yesterday I tried mode 1 before sleeping and lay hours awake. so your information might be right.

      thanks lillybeth

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      I purchased the Bio Tuner from Sota instruments and believe me if you want lucid dreams, buy it. It's the reason why I'm on this site, to try and control my dreams because they are so vivid and I can remember so much. Before I started using this device I hadn't remembered my dreams for years and now I remember many dreams every night even the bad or uncomfortable ones. Maybe this is why they call it a side effect as some peoples dreams are not pleasurable. The Bio Tuner sends a Frequency to you brain stimulating the production of the chemicals needed for deep sleep therefore allowing for more lucid dreaming. The Bio-Tuner is used to help drug addicts and or alcoholics to stop using as it allows them to quit without experiencing severe withdrawals. Pete Townsend used it to conquer a severe heroin addiction along with many others. It also has been proven to make you smarter and more alert which I personally feel it also does. I actually find myself reading faster and remembering more. I have had no negative side effects and would recommend this product as well as other Sota Instruments products to anyone. For those who would doubt me, I am just an average working class guy with no reason to fabricate a story for this forum. The only reason I'm posting this is to tell other people how well this worked for me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by benandreas28 View Post
      I purchased the Bio Tuner from Sota instruments and believe me if you want lucid dreams, buy it. It's the reason why I'm on this site, to try and control my dreams because they are so vivid and I can remember so much. Before I started using this device I hadn't remembered my dreams for years and now I remember many dreams every night even the bad or uncomfortable ones. Maybe this is why they call it a side effect as some peoples dreams are not pleasurable. The Bio Tuner sends a Frequency to you brain stimulating the production of the chemicals needed for deep sleep therefore allowing for more lucid dreaming. The Bio-Tuner is used to help drug addicts and or alcoholics to stop using as it allows them to quit without experiencing severe withdrawals. Pete Townsend used it to conquer a severe heroin addiction along with many others. It also has been proven to make you smarter and more alert which I personally feel it also does. I actually find myself reading faster and remembering more. I have had no negative side effects and would recommend this product as well as other Sota Instruments products to anyone. For those who would doubt me, I am just an average working class guy with no reason to fabricate a story for this forum. The only reason I'm posting this is to tell other people how well this worked for me.
      So Benandreas28 sounds like an Advertisement for the Sota BT7 lol.. so I am considering buying one of these.. does anyone have any real results? Based on Dr Bob Beck's research and work, the device does work for many of the things mentioned on this forum. Has anyone else used this or any ces device?

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      For the record, I purchased this device, I will update this forum in 1-4 weeks with my results. I think this is worthy of discussion. Let me know if you guys are interested.

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      *Bump*
      Just got mine in the mail. I'll start updating. Not sure what frequency to experiment with though.
      I'm going to try a 20 at around 6 PM Central, and again when I go to bed.
      I am having a bit of a dry spell as well.

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      First night, and had a lucid. A vivid dream on the way in, and a lucid on the way out. I'm enjoying this thing already.
      I used mode three for twenty minutes in the middle of the day, and then mode 2 prior to sleeping. So far so good.

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      Just to decided to join the discussion. I purchased the Sota Bio Tuner BT8 over a year ago and after regular use, over a month, I sort of gave up. I did follow the instructions and changed the modes up regularly and also never did more than 2 divided 20 minutes sessions per day. I didn't notice any improvement in mood, concentration, or anything else for that matter. That was a bummer as there are so many things out there, including supplements, that get these great reviews, but end up doing nothing for me.

      That being said, I'm going to give it another shot and journal it more regularly. As we speak, I'm running mode 4.

      I've dabled with "Earthing", I have a Sota Magnetic Pulser which "may" actually be somewhat beneficial. I let my mom try the Pulser and she feels that it's helped her with her rheumatism, etc. I've recently started using that again on my brain. All a mystery. I also have a Hulda Clark Zapper which I think has helped when I feel a cold coming on. I haven't gotten "sick" since I've owned that unit which is a bit over a year.

      Anyways, back to the Bio Tuner. I will post updates good/bad/neutral. I hope that I notice some positives this time around.

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      Thanks for posting.
      I tried it for three weeks then stopped. I noticed a change in my mood as I do seem happier but it didn't help my insomnia at all, and it didn't help my memory , if anything, I was more foggy. I stopped for three days. I'm going to give it another three weeks again of every day use. I'm quite disappointed as the reviews were good.

      I have used settings 1,2&3. I will try 4,5 & 6 . I use water on the ear clips. I'm going to get gel and see if that makes a difference.

      Good luck, I hope it does something for you this time around.

      I found this....

      ''The most comprehensive review of the research in CES published to date is a chapter by Ray B. Smith, Ph.D. in the book, Neural Stimulation, published in 1985. Dr. Smith has been researching CES since 1972. He concluded, "There are 40 studies of CES readily available in the U.S. in which the dependent variable is reliable. When these are examined alone it becomes apparent that CES is effective in alleviating symptoms of anxiety, depression, and insomnia...CES appears effective as a treatment for withdrawal in the chemically dependent person...Other promising areas of treatment are in hypergastric acidity and migraine headaches." Dr. Smith adds, "CES appears to be safe, with no harm or negative side effects having been reported to date in controlled studies...Finally, while one usually assumes some placebo effect from a treatment as dramatic as this, none has been reported in studies controlled for this effect."

      I'm not sure what they did to get these type of results. It may be something as simple as using the conductive gel on the ear clips. I will repost in another three weeks.

      If you are reading this and have tried this machine, please post your results.

      I watched the video that Sota has put out. They suggest using the unit for two months continuously.
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      Cheers atkins
      I have been reading this thread and this device seems to have some great potential, I will
      look forward with interest to your results with it.

      I manage to have lucid dreams pretty frequently but my dream recall is really poor even though I
      keep a DJ, the only way I have managed to dramatically improve my recall is when i take ld pills,
      I would rather not depend on pills for this.
      The main reason i have been considering purchasing this device is in the hope my dream recall
      and vividness could be enhanced by using it.
      I look forward to any info on your results in using it and wish you the best of luck.
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      Day 1:
      The device arrived today and these are the first initial impressions. Its small, light weight, put together nicely. I have not had a "session" with the device just yet as I am still researching settings, modes, ect. I did however try it out for about a minute.. Its noticeable to say the least.. I put the two ear clips onto my ears, the light comes on to tell you that a closed circuit has been completed (meaning a flow of current from 1 ear to the other). So I turn it onto mode 1, turn up the power knob a little.. I feel a buzzing from the connection to my ear, but I also feel my brain soaking in the juice.. my thoughts immediately become somewhat harder to complete and I feel more euphoric than anything else... i ran it for 1 minute compared to the standard 20 minute session. Before bed, I plan to run the full session then go to sleep. I'm not expecting anything significant tonight, as all the studies say it takes days or weeks to feel strong changes in sleep patterns or dreaming.. but I have seen people report immediate "changes" of some kind... we will see.. This will be considered my day 1, even though it is almost 10:30pm here... So I will continue this tomorrow and try to post daily as changes occur. All new post will be in my own thread linked below and not in this one. Thanks for the interest....

      http://www.dreamviews.com/f11/anyone...iences-125218/

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      Day 2:
      Another restful night's sleep, with memorable dreams.. not a great recall but I remembered most details of the dreams, which was actually really impressive considering I went out drinking last night til and went to bed around 2am under the influence of alcohol lol... so to have any recall in this scenario was actually impressive. Nothing substantial to report today, but im not expecting anything right away as the deep effects are usually cumulative and after many sessions.

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      For anybody who is interested after having read many reviews on this site and
      elsewhere on the internet I decided to order a Bio Tuner last week the main
      reason for me was in the hope it might improve the vividness of my dreams.
      I received it last Thursday and have been using it for one session of 20 minutes
      in mode 1 every night before sleep.
      I know its early days so far, but the only difference I have noticed is that i feel
      more relaxed and chilled out since using it and my sleep seems to have improved
      somewhat, mentally I believe I feel slightly more focused.
      As far as Lucid dreams are concerned I have noticed no difference in my ld total
      or any increase in dream vividness.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DREAMER242000 View Post
      For anybody who is interested after having read many reviews on this site and
      elsewhere on the internet I decided to order a Bio Tuner last week the main
      reason for me was in the hope it might improve the vividness of my dreams.
      I received it last Thursday and have been using it for one session of 20 minutes
      in mode 1 every night before sleep.
      I know its early days so far, but the only difference I have noticed is that i feel
      more relaxed and chilled out since using it and my sleep seems to have improved
      somewhat, mentally I believe I feel slightly more focused.
      As far as Lucid dreams are concerned I have noticed no difference in my ld total
      or any increase in dream vividness.
      Thanks for your update. I am on day 6 using mode 3 once early in the day and mode 1 right before sleep. The one thing that is incredible is that after running mode 1 for 20 minutes before sleep is that after it shuts off and I roll over, i can barely remember my head hitting the pillow before its the next morning and ive had a long restful nights sleep lol.. I have noticed I am having much better recall of dreams.. over-all, I feel very relaxed after using the device as well.. keep us updated and feel free to post in my thread as well with your results.. (in my sig) so others can follow it there too.

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      Thanks Atkins for the updates on your progress with the Bio tuner.
      Last night I had my first noticeable effect on my dreaming with three
      vivid dreams one becoming Lucid, vivid dreams are rare for me so i am
      hoping this is a sign of more to come.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DREAMER242000 View Post
      Thanks Atkins for the updates on your progress with the Bio tuner.
      Last night I had my first noticeable effect on my dreaming with three
      vivid dreams one becoming Lucid, vivid dreams are rare for me so i am
      hoping this is a sign of more to come.
      I also had 3 very vidid dreams this morning, wiht partial lucidity. it seems the biotuner is doing exactly what its supposed to I just updated more info on my thread.


      ALSO, dreamer, are you noticing waking life effects from the biotuner such as mental clarity, mood changes, or anything like that? The supposed effects of this machine go well beyond dreaming. I am starting to notice a gradual change in every day life, but I wont report noticeable waking changes until I experience them. I am experiencing something though.
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      Hi Atkins
      I had another vivid dream which turned lucid last night which I am pleased
      about.
      As for the Bio tuners effect on my waking life, i feel more relaxed since using
      it and things that once would have got me down don't seem to bother me now
      its like taking St Johns wort, and as I said in an earlier post my mind seems more
      focused.

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      Can anyone please post more updates about their findings in regards to this device? What differences in your life do you feel have gone through since the start of using this device?

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      Day 19:

      So I have been using the device for what is going on 3 weeks.
      I understand this forum is for "dreams" related things, but I want to give a full account up to this point of how
      this device has affected me. The biotuner makes many claims, along with lucid dreaming..

      A little background. I am someone who doesn't get much restful sleep. Also, take a medication for treating symptoms of a.d.d. So my experiments with this device were
      personally meant to go much further than just lucid dreaming. I can tell you that every since I Have started using the BT7, my sleep has become very restful.. and most nights I am in bed by midnight, which wasn't typical at all.
      I get a very long nights rest it feels now.. each morning I wake feeling well rested.. my days have changed as well.. i stopped taking vyvanse for a.d.d to see how the bt7 did with that. After the first week I was somewhat frustrated, my thinking was still cloudy, hazy... as it always was ... this is what a.d.d. feels like.. you can't complete thoughts, tasks, goals.. and so on.. i had filled a new script to alleviate these things but planned to hold out and see how the bt7 did. So the first week i was frustrated because it wasn't showing results there.. i was sleeping well, even having more vivid dreams... but now I can honestly report, after 3 weeks of using the device nightly.. I don't even desire the medicine anymore to clear up the symptoms of A.d.d., because i don't have the symptoms of A.d.d. Most days I think so clearly, that it doesn't feel like the meds would change anything... this truly is one thing I have been able to account for...

      For the rest of you... my dreams have indeed became more vivid.. although I have learned that recall still completely vanishes if you dont journal.. I have longer, more vivid dreams it seems, but if i don't stop to focus on them after i wake up, and write them down.. i have no recollection of them, or very little of them, within an hour..

      I will continue posting to this thread as I will continue using the device... but if someone were to ask me for an honest recommendation on whether to use this or not? Yes, go for it... because
      if these effects continue, or even strengthen, then this device is a real life changer... to be able to go off the meds entirely and not be dependent on medication to be able to focus clearly is a "dream" of mine personally.. The effects I am feeling are no placebo effect.. its a difference you can truly feel being on add medication, and off add medication.. and this device is showing better results daily to replace that..

      thanks guys. please continue to post your own results.
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