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      Some sites that sell the device do actually mention lucid dreaming as a positive benefit. However, as I was researching the product, I also read several articles that spoke of it as a side effect. For example:

      "The most troublesome side effect that has been noted almost universally is that it stimulates lucid dreaming. Some people who have been shut off from their dreams are a little alarmed, at first."

      And in another article:


      "Users of the BT-5 have reported startling memory transformations. A woman of Dr. Beck’s acquaintances suffered a spinal block 25 years ago and was unable to recall phone numbers or addresses. After using the BT-5 for a single day she remembered phone numbers from even 20 years earlier. Dr. Beck claims amazing things for the memory. 'They’re just there. It also a specific for stress reduction, anxiety, depression, insomnia.'

      There appears to be an overdose plateau: Forty minutes realizes good results, forty-five won’t do damage, but it undoes the benefits.

      An interesting side effect of the BT-5 pertains to lucid dreaming. Memories of dreams can be vivid and persistent. This could be an ideal device for dream researchers."

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      Looks very interesting I wonder if testimonials for this are true or if they are simply fabricated. If this device actually works that would simply be awesome. Every bit helps especially if this helps as much as it "appears" to.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Heat View Post
      Looks very interesting I wonder if testimonials for this are true or if they are simply fabricated. If this device actually works that would simply be awesome. Every bit helps especially if this helps as much as it "appears" to.
      Well it certainly does something. I tried it on Mode 4 and it lit-up my mind like a Xmas tree (that's the only way I can describe it). I went to bed that night and was still awake 6 hours later! I've since learned, however (from the information below) that Modes 3 and 6 may be better for lucid dreaming purposes. But this is just a guess.

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      Settings 2 & 3 and 5 & 6 may be more relaxing, whereas the 111 Hz. may be more energizing. Settings 2 and 5 represent the DELTA brainwave frequency, normally associated with deep sleep and release of deeply embedded stress patterns. The 7.83 setting ( no. 3 and 6 ) represents the middle ALPHA brainwave frequency and is associated with a relaxed, but very focused mental state.

      Also, creativity, superlearning, memory improvement, intuitive insights and more. BT-7 may be used any time of day. It is important to use the BT-7 each day for 2 to 3 weeks in order to achieve the maximum benefits.

      There is no need to repeat the entire 2 to 3 weeks if you happen to skip a day or two. Following the initial series of sessions, BT-7 may be used on occasion as desired to maintain the initial improvements. For example, memory improvements may last up to 1 year before additional sessions are necessary.

      Other gains may be more temporary and require more frequent reinforcement. Individual results will vary.

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      Hmm.. I may purchase this sometime. If the woman did memorize phone numbers from 20 years earlier.. then I may definitely purchase this.

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      Wait, what? What does this thing do? How do you use it, etc?

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      From SharingHealth:

      We are recommending yet another of Bob Beck’s electronic devices. For information about Bob Beck and his research see Researchers to Know section.

      The original Beck Brain Tuners, the BT5 and BT6, were available from 1983 until early in 2000. Starting early in 2000, with Bob Beck’s licensing, SOTA Instruments Inc. stepped in to continue to make Beck’s units available. With an improved design, the unit has been renamed to that of Bio–Tuner.

      As a Cranial Electro Stimulation (CES) device, research on Beck’s Brain Tuner is referred to in two recently published books: MegaBrain Power by Michael Hutchison and SuperLearning 2000 by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder.

      Over the years, suppliers of Beck’s Brain Tuners apparently received feedback from individuals who found the units were instrumental in helping them overcome addictions, insomnia, depression, learning disorders and pain. Unfortunately, no company was dedicated to formally recording or collecting these testimonials. SOTA Instruments Inc. is now asking customers to report on their use of Beck’s Bio–Tuner.

      Bob Beck’s 1983 lecture on Cranial Electro Stimulation (CES) and his Brain Tuner is reported in The Beck Protocol Handbook. This handbook package provides all the information needed to use the Bio-Tuner. See Electrifying Books & Videos section.

      Introduction to the Beck Protocol:
      http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...23462993133294

      How to Use the Beck Protocol:
      http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...94760973110305
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      Interesting post. I don't own this particular device, though I've been experimenting with CES for lucid dream induction for about two years now. I actually have some very interesting results and my research continues.

      So I ask a simple question. If a CES device was constructed that had lucid dream induction capabilites on par with Galantamine, what do you all think about your personal interest in such a device? Does the notion of passing a light AC current from ear to ear freak people out, or would you be open minded about?

      What price point would you expect to pay for such a device? Bear in mind that Galantamine costs about 1-2 dollars per dose. If and when Laberges patent issues, he's obviously going to pursue licensing fees to market G as a lucid dream supplement which will drive up costs.

      Astrius, in your particular case did you have any noticable effect on dream recall or lucidity? For the record, the signal properties I've honed in on for lucid dream induction are quite different than what the BT7 device does. There happens to be tons of CES research on the web if you know where to look, FYI. I can PM people if anyone is interested.
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      hi astrius,
      where did you get the info that modes 2 and 5 of the bio tuner pertain to deep sleep? On healpyourselfathome they say it's modes 1 and 4 for deep sleep and 2 and 5 for energizing. Yesterday I tried mode 1 before sleeping and lay hours awake. so your information might be right.

      thanks lillybeth

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