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      Day 19:

      So I have been using the device for what is going on 3 weeks.
      I understand this forum is for "dreams" related things, but I want to give a full account up to this point of how
      this device has affected me. The biotuner makes many claims, along with lucid dreaming..

      A little background. I am someone who doesn't get much restful sleep. Also, take a medication for treating symptoms of a.d.d. So my experiments with this device were
      personally meant to go much further than just lucid dreaming. I can tell you that every since I Have started using the BT7, my sleep has become very restful.. and most nights I am in bed by midnight, which wasn't typical at all.
      I get a very long nights rest it feels now.. each morning I wake feeling well rested.. my days have changed as well.. i stopped taking vyvanse for a.d.d to see how the bt7 did with that. After the first week I was somewhat frustrated, my thinking was still cloudy, hazy... as it always was ... this is what a.d.d. feels like.. you can't complete thoughts, tasks, goals.. and so on.. i had filled a new script to alleviate these things but planned to hold out and see how the bt7 did. So the first week i was frustrated because it wasn't showing results there.. i was sleeping well, even having more vivid dreams... but now I can honestly report, after 3 weeks of using the device nightly.. I don't even desire the medicine anymore to clear up the symptoms of A.d.d., because i don't have the symptoms of A.d.d. Most days I think so clearly, that it doesn't feel like the meds would change anything... this truly is one thing I have been able to account for...

      For the rest of you... my dreams have indeed became more vivid.. although I have learned that recall still completely vanishes if you dont journal.. I have longer, more vivid dreams it seems, but if i don't stop to focus on them after i wake up, and write them down.. i have no recollection of them, or very little of them, within an hour..

      I will continue posting to this thread as I will continue using the device... but if someone were to ask me for an honest recommendation on whether to use this or not? Yes, go for it... because
      if these effects continue, or even strengthen, then this device is a real life changer... to be able to go off the meds entirely and not be dependent on medication to be able to focus clearly is a "dream" of mine personally.. The effects I am feeling are no placebo effect.. its a difference you can truly feel being on add medication, and off add medication.. and this device is showing better results daily to replace that..

      thanks guys. please continue to post your own results.
      Last edited by atkins513; 12-26-2011 at 07:02 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by atkins513 View Post
      Day 19:

      So I have been using the device for what is going on 3 weeks.
      I understand this forum is for "dreams" related things, but I want to give a full account up to this point of how
      this device has affected me. The biotuner makes many claims, along with lucid dreaming..

      A little background. I am someone who doesn't get much restful sleep. Also, take a medication for treating symptoms of a.d.d. So my experiments with this device were
      personally meant to go much further than just lucid dreaming. I can tell you that every since I Have started using the BT7, my sleep has become very restful.. and most nights I am in bed by midnight, which wasn't typical at all.
      I get a very long nights rest it feels now.. each morning I wake feeling well rested.. my days have changed as well.. i stopped taking vyvanse for a.d.d to see how the bt7 did with that. After the first week I was somewhat frustrated, my thinking was still cloudy, hazy... as it always was ... this is what a.d.d. feels like.. you can't complete thoughts, tasks, goals.. and so on.. i had filled a new script to alleviate these things but planned to hold out and see how the bt7 did. So the first week i was frustrated because it wasn't showing results there.. i was sleeping well, even having more vivid dreams... but now I can honestly report, after 3 weeks of using the device nightly.. I don't even desire the medicine anymore to clear up the symptoms of A.d.d., because i don't have the symptoms of A.d.d. Most days I think so clearly, that it doesn't feel like the meds would change anything... this truly is one thing I have been able to account for...

      For the rest of you... my dreams have indeed became more vivid.. although I have learned that recall still completely vanishes if you dont journal.. I have longer, more vivid dreams it seems, but if i don't stop to focus on them after i wake up, and write them down.. i have no recollection of them, or very little of them, within an hour..

      I will continue posting to this thread as I will continue using the device... but if someone were to ask me for an honest recommendation on whether to use this or not? Yes, go for it... because
      if these effects continue, or even strengthen, then this device is a real life changer... to be able to go off the meds entirely and not be dependent on medication to be able to focus clearly is a "dream" of mine personally..
      The effects I am feeling are no placebo effect.. its a difference you can truly feel being on add medication, and off add medication.. and this device is working to replace that...

      thanks guys. please continue to post your own results.
      Wow, thankyou so much for your input on this device!! Its like the future me wrote that. I also suffer from ADD and Insomnia. I am currently prescribed 40 mg Vyvanse (If i must say so, it works amazingly), and for night time i am prescribed mylan-quetiapine 25 mg for sleep, which also works amazingly. On Vyvanse, i felt like i could achieve anything, and i was making everything possible and actually making things happen. I felt the happiest i had ever felt, and i literally felt like everything is in the palm of my hands. I became goal-oriented and nothing seemed to intimidate me. I felt like i was almost on path to becoming one of the greatest scholar. FAST FORWARD - My holistic doctor recommended to get off all meds. I injured myself from gym 2 months ago, which i know it was the heavy weights i was lifting. I went to this doctor as she does accupuncture/message/physio therapy, but she works with meridians which i am not too familiar with. She mentioned that my spleen is week and that i need to get off meds or her treatment wont work. Its been exactly 2 weeks since ive been off all meds, and i am so close to getting back on them. If my psychiatrist heard this, i am sure hed be upset about this as i am not following the prescription he gave me. Life again seems to be that much harder, i am getting so pissed at night time because i cant fall asleep on schedule, and i feel soooo damn tired in the mornings. While on vyvanse+sleep pills i was able to fall asleep by 10pm and wakeup at 8am. Now i cant fall asleep till after 2 am and am waking up past 11:30am!!!! I was currently studying for the GMAT and since ive been off meds (in 2 weeks) i have only been able to finish 1 chapter, while on vyvanse i was finishing 3 chapters a day! While on vyvanse, id feel like im nash from the beautiful mind, my mind was able to solve problems at a rate that i didnt even know was achievable, and i miss that so much.

      I have ordered the new neurotrek digital pro 3 device but it wont be shipping until later this week. But at the end of the day, its the same device as sota bio tuner with added functionality of playing around. It is so good to hear that you feel like you can completely get off meds, because that is my ultimate goal. My ultimate goal is to work at the level that i work at while on vyvanse and also be able to sleep like a normal person by 10 am -= all without meds=-, which is why i am investing so much into this CES device.

      I believe, given the research and peoples account, this CES device will be the answer to most of my problems. I am big into working out but i can never seem to get big, main reason being SHITTY SLEEPS! I have concluded even by ADD is related to shitty sleep constantly for 6+ years. If this device can heal my sleeping patters without the need to resort to pills, it will be miraculous to say the least.

      Some more questions for you if you dont mind. Do you feel like your mind is working at the level it was while on vyvanse? Do you now feel like a normal person in terms of sleeping, like what you were before your insomnia started? Has your outlook on life changed as it did when you first started taking vyvanse?

      Also Does anyone know what frequencies exactly does the bio tuner uses?

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