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      Quote Originally Posted by hypnotoad1579 View Post


      Just keep your eyelids in the most relaxed open or partially-open position for you.
      Well thanks for the advice.
      Not possible. From a slight squint to almost fully closed they flutter.
      Any other advice for me? I'm kinda new at this stuff.

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      Sorry Hypnotoad. Copletely unconvinced here.
      There are two assumptions here that dont make sense.

      The first is that you need "energy" for hypnogogic hallucinations.
      The second is that sugar will give you the correct "energy" for these hallucinations.

      If you are so tired that falling directly asleep is almost inevitable, I'm not convinced a bit of sugar will do much. Perhaps a little caffeine may?

      Please dont take my criticisms personaly, we're all here to learn and improve our kowledge, in which case we need to be critical of unproven theories, rather than fill our minds with information that could be false (which wastes everyones time)

      There are a few factors that I have no information on.
      Things such as, how soon after ingesting sugar does the blood sugar level change in the body?
      Are there factors that effect this?
      Does blood sugar level effect awareness even when asleep?
      Would different types of sugars (glucose for example) be more effective (if ther is any effectivness in the first place)

      Your tests, who were they performed on.
      Would you be kind enough to share your data with us?
      Were the tests double blind?

      My suggestion for the future would be...
      rather than start a thread that makes a direct claim,
      maybe start a thread that asks a question... such as "Does sugar intake help conscious sleep paralysis?"

      The we can all work together to see if your theory has any basis in fact.
      Then when it does... we can post a thread with a good deal of evidence to back up the claim.

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      Sorry but I don't have much time to respond at the moment, but I must respond to at least this part here.

      Quote Originally Posted by spaceexplorer View Post
      My suggestion for the future would be...
      rather than start a thread that makes a direct claim,
      maybe start a thread that asks a question... such as "Does sugar intake help conscious sleep paralysis?"
      The reason why I did not act in this manner is because I have already proved to myself and many others that it works. Perhaps you should try my method before you question it. Especially because of the fact that you are going to convince your mind that it doesn't work and it wont only because of that.

      I will answer all of the rest of everyones questions later tonight. Thanks for your time!
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      Quote Originally Posted by hypnotoad1579 View Post
      Sorry but I don't have much time to respond at the moment, but I must respond to at least this part here.



      The reason why I did not act in this manner is because I have already proved to myself and many others that it works. Perhaps you should try my method before you question it. Especially because of the fact that you are going to convince your mind that it doesn't work and it wont only because of that.

      I will answer all of the rest of everyones questions later tonight. Thanks for your time!


      I think he is talking about taking drug or DMT thing..

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      Quote Originally Posted by hypnotoad1579 View Post
      Sorry but I don't have much time to respond at the moment, but I must respond to at least this part here.



      The reason why I did not act in this manner is because I have already proved to myself and many others that it works. Perhaps you should try my method before you question it. Especially because of the fact that you are going to convince your mind that it doesn't work and it wont only because of that.

      I will answer all of the rest of everyones questions later tonight. Thanks for your time!
      Which is why i'm asking if you could share your results.
      If you've proved this so convincingly, surely there must be some kind of data to back up your claim?

      I understand the placebo and nocebo effects perfectly well, and i'm reserving judgment on your idea.

      If i tried everything before questioning it, i'd probably not have lived into my 30s. Personally I think it's wise to question things before trying them.

      Do you mind if I ask your age?

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      Especially if it's just a placebo effect, which is why it's important to control all aspects of an experiment. If it's just a placebo effect, why the hell should we all be eating sugar? Why not just BELIEVE that laying down and being tired will give us SP?

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      Quote Originally Posted by DreamChaser View Post
      Well thanks for the advice.
      Not possible. From a slight squint to almost fully closed they flutter.
      Any other advice for me? I'm kinda new at this stuff.

      I guess just relax your face as much as possible then. Don't try to force anything into any position whatsoever.

      Quote Originally Posted by spaceexplorer View Post
      The first is that you need "energy" for hypnogogic hallucinations.
      The second is that sugar will give you the correct "energy" for these hallucinations.

      If you are so tired that falling directly asleep is almost inevitable, I'm not convinced a bit of sugar will do much. Perhaps a little caffeine may?

      There are a few factors that I have no information on.
      Things such as, how soon after ingesting sugar does the blood sugar level change in the body?
      Are there factors that effect this?
      Does blood sugar level effect awareness even when asleep?
      Would different types of sugars (glucose for example) be more effective (if ther is any effectivness in the first place)
      1. Sugar and energy. This one's simple. Have you ever tried to stay awake while being as tired as I stated in the tutorial? It's quite hard to for any length of time quite obviously (obvious, like the answers to a lot of your other questions). Next of all, the energy level I have found best for this being induced by sugar. I have another question for you, have you ever tried to get into a meditative state whilst being extremely over energetic? I can tell you from experience, its quite a bit easier to enter a meditative state while you are in a more calm mood and have a mellow energy level. The same principal applies to this situation.

      2. Caffeine. the point of using sugar is to get you to that mellow energy level I spoke of earlier. The point is not to make you hyper. Next of all, sugar, unlike caffeine, supplies your body with energy. Caffeine on the other hand, tells your body to use more of the energy your body has at a faster rate. Thus for, caffeine would be ineffective for this application.

      3. Blood sugar and such. First of all, sugar is digested in your mouth, so the body's response is quite swift. That is why I stated it should be plain and not in a food item. Next of all, sugar is a part of this method. Whether or not the blood sugar level affects the outcome. This entire method does three things, gets you to a point where you can easily enter SP, gets you the proper energy level to have lengthly hallucinations, and creates the proper stage for enjoyable hallucinations. While your blood sugar level may or may not affect your dreams and or hallucinations, your outlook, mood, and energy level do. Last of all, the type of sugar. This does not matter considering they all give your body energy.

      Quote Originally Posted by spaceexplorer View Post
      Which is why i'm asking if you could share your results.
      If you've proved this so convincingly, surely there must be some kind of data to back up your claim?

      Do you mind if I ask your age?
      Yes, there is data. Why didn't I post it? This is a tutorial, not science class. If you must know though, My actual tests not including me just telling everyone and them saying they liked it involved this. Conducting the test on ten people, five friends five random individuals. Two from the group of friends were informed of what it did, three were not. Three for the random group were informed of what it did, two were not. I asked them all to fully describe every bit of their experience the next day. They all reported that they had hallucinated to some extent. Is that enough data yet? Because I'm really getting tired of people getting over technically skeptical about such a simple method.

      Finally, my age. Should it really matter if I'm 72 or if I'm 7. Intelligence is not bound by age. Intelligence is gained not only through experience but through your studies and your devotion to them.

      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      Especially if it's just a placebo effect, which is why it's important to control all aspects of an experiment. If it's just a placebo effect, why the hell should we all be eating sugar? Why not just BELIEVE that laying down and being tired will give us SP?
      If you read the section on my experiment you will see that I designed it to test against a placebo effect. As five people had no clue what the hell was going to happen, if anything at all for that fact. Not to mention how I discovered this in the first place, accident. I was tired and wanted to stay up longer. Then I ate some sugar. it didn't have a good enough effect for my uses so I went to bed. It just so happened that I played some mellow music to fall asleep to. As well as the fact that I was going to bed half-upright on my living room couch. On top of it all, the room was only illuminated by a mellow blue LED night light. When I ended up hallucinating after doing nothing in my mind but pop some sugar I was quite amazed. Then, being confused as to why such a thing would occur, I began studying and testing. Once I had fully understood and confirmed my findings, I finalized a method and posted it here for all to enjoy. By getting over technically skeptical you questioners have gotten in the way of enjoying my method for yourself. I realize that questioning things like drugs before you try them is wise. However, over questioning something that can have no negative effect is not. On top of this you are not just questioning my method but denying that it even does anything. Please, for your own good, in the future try something before you deny that it works.
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      Well, technically I should be locking this and directing you to the research forums. So I was hoping you could provide us with some details about this study you've conducted. Can you?

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