Thread: Caffeine to increase success rate?

wow there buddy the only place caffein is gonna get you is into staring at the ceiling all night. I'll actually try avoiding it as it leads to some or no sleep at all when it takes effect. Caffein should be considered sleep's enemy. I were you, i would try not to get close to it during the night. good luck though

Originally Posted by LucidInCuB!zt

wow there buddy the only place caffein is gonna get you is into staring at the ceiling all night. I'll actually try avoiding it as it leads to some or no sleep at all when it takes effect. Caffein should be considered sleep's enemy. I were you, i would try not to get close to it during the night. good luck though

I'd like to differ. Sometimes a cup of coffee before bed CAN calm you and put you to sleep, and the caffeine may or may not give you a heightened sense of awareness. It worked for me sometimes (when I put forth a concerted effort to LD every night), but honestly, hot tea works best.

Man I am so hooked on caffine. Not a night goes by that I am not still under its influance at bedtime. I have my share of lucid dreams, so caffine will not prevent them assuming you can sleep. Slightly disturbed sleep (like caffine may cause) seems to make me more likely to recall dreams. Sleep-aids from the drug store keep me from dreaming. So maybe you have something. Experiment away. I think it cant hurt at all.

See? I told you.
And plus, he's telling you to try other things.
"Experiment," as sivason says. You can sue him when you get addicted to something.

Originally Posted by Xanous

I was going to post a long thing about this but really I just have one question.
Has anyone tried or heard of this or is it just a fluke?

I sort of stumbled on the fact that a cup of coffee before bed time or nap time greatly increases the success rate for Lucid Dreams, Sleep Paralysis and Recall regardless of how much sleep I get. I tend to be a heavy sleeper and the caffeine seems to negate that. Maybe it's just me.

I was never really one for using lucid aids until now. Nothing else ever worked.

Yeah, a little caffine will keep your mind more awake. That will give you better recall, and an over all better chance for Lucid Dreaming.

Originally Posted by LucidInCuB!zt

wow there buddy the only place caffein is gonna get you is into staring at the ceiling all night. I'll actually try avoiding it as it leads to some or no sleep at all when it takes effect. Caffein should be considered sleep's enemy. I were you, i would try not to get close to it during the night. good luck though

One cup will not keep me up. Im too addicted. Besides that I am usually able to force myself to sleep when I want assuming there not much on my mind.

Originally Posted by Dallian

I'd like to differ. Sometimes a cup of coffee before bed CAN calm you and put you to sleep, and the caffeine may or may not give you a heightened sense of awareness. It worked for me sometimes (when I put forth a concerted effort to LD every night), but honestly, hot tea works best.

What kind of tea. herbal? Caffeinated? I was drinking Hibiscus a while back to relax me but it never seemed to effect my dreams.

Originally Posted by Caradon

Yeah, a little caffine will keep your mind more awake. That will give you better recall, and an over all better chance for Lucid Dreaming.

Thanks. That helps to confirm that it was the caffeine and not something else.

Coffee can either keep me from sleep or relax me and allow me to drift asleep with a very clear mind.

I'll have to look into this again. If it turns out Coffee is keeping me more often awake than that it calmes me I can add some hashis to the coffee. Like melt soft hashis through coffee. This would counter the wakefullness, but synergise with the mental clearity. Well we should experiment with coffee together. How bout tonight?

Ok from what I've heard, you shouldnt drink it right before bed. Drink some coffee like 2 hours before you go to sleep. At this point, you should be coming off the caffine, but it still affects your brain for hours. So your not all wired, but you have more brain activity going on. I dont like coffee so I've never tried it. I dont think there is enough caffine in pop to have a great effect either.

I used to take caffeine before bed to help induce ld's until i read that it makes u act out your dreams and can be very dangerous. Do u ever notice that sometimes u wake up and ur pillows and covers are all over the place and u wake up and think wtf? It's cause u have been acting out your dream, i always used to wonder why i would be spitting in a dream then i would wake up to find myself spitting over my sheets, or i would wake up continuing a conversation i was just having in a dream, or wake up with a swollen jaw (must have headbutted the wall or something). As soon as i stopped taking caffeine the symptoms stopped so no more caffeine for me anymore and i advise u don't take any before bed.

Originally Posted by SKA

Coffee can either keep me from sleep or relax me and allow me to drift asleep with a very clear mind.

I'll have to look into this again. If it turns out Coffee is keeping me more often awake than that it calmes me I can add some hashis to the coffee. Like melt soft hashis through coffee. This would counter the wakefullness, but synergise with the mental clearity. Well we should experiment with coffee together. How bout tonight?

I dont do drugs. Meletonin might help? I was planning to give coffee a shot tonight. I guess I'll let you know the results.

Originally Posted by LBT Petrie

Ok from what I've heard, you shouldnt drink it right before bed. Drink some coffee like 2 hours before you go to sleep. At this point, you should be coming off the caffine, but it still affects your brain for hours. So your not all wired, but you have more brain activity going on. I dont like coffee so I've never tried it. I dont think there is enough caffine in pop to have a great effect either.

I think tonight I will wait about an hour after the coffee to go to bed. The last time I tried coffee I was unable to rest well. It was an afternoon nap and I was well rested already though. I did fall asleep but I woke too frequently with fragmented nonsense for dreams.

Originally Posted by ld master

I used to take caffeine before bed to help induce ld's until i read that it makes u act out your dreams and can be very dangerous. Do u ever notice that sometimes u wake up and ur pillows and covers are all over the place and u wake up and think wtf? It's cause u have been acting out your dream, i always used to wonder why i would be spitting in a dream then i would wake up to find myself spitting over my sheets, or i would wake up continuing a conversation i was just having in a dream, or wake up with a swollen jaw (must have headbutted the wall or something). As soon as i stopped taking caffeine the symptoms stopped so no more caffeine for me anymore and i advise u don't take any before bed.

I used to wake up to some stranger situations than that. But that was pre-puberty. I dont have this problem anymore and caffine does not have that kind of effect on me.

Well all of you are reluctant to touch Cafeïne again because it seems to distort sleep. However this is exacly why I'm interrested in it. The lucid State is in fact also a distorted type of sleep. It's unusual for your Mind to be awake while at the same time in a deep immersive dreamstate. It IS a deviant type of sleep: it's the reason Lucid Dreaming is so very very interresting and special.

Alcohol does the same thing, but also surpresses REM-sleep alot so that wouldn't be advised.

I allready had 2 cups of coffee today. I'm drinking my 3d cup of coffee and try and sleep on it. Who's in?

Ahh caffiene, A gift to All-Night-Programmers, Security Guards, insomnia sufferers, and Lucid Dreamers =P
I find caffiene can be useful in maintaining that Slight Conciousness (from many dreams when i've thought "Im Dreaming! S**t, time to wake up i gotta meet Bob!" or similar =P

Sweet! Had a cup before bed. I had a nice long LD.http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...19&postcount=6

I wonder if it will lose effectiveness if I do it too much.

Originally Posted by SKA

Well all of you are reluctant to touch Cafeïne again because it seems to distort sleep. However this is exacly why I'm interrested in it. The lucid State is in fact also a distorted type of sleep. It's unusual for your Mind to be awake while at the same time in a deep immersive dreamstate. It IS a deviant type of sleep: it's the reason Lucid Dreaming is so very very interresting and special.

Alcohol does the same thing, but also surpresses REM-sleep alot so that wouldn't be advised.

I allready had 2 cups of coffee today. I'm drinking my 3d cup of coffee and try and sleep on it. Who's in?

What if we put caffeine in a slow melting capsule, so that it starts to effect while we are already asleep?
I thought about this idea sometimes ago and made a post about it, but I couldn't find any delayed release empty capsules for sale.
What I thought is trying to cover caffeine or coffee with something that takes a while to digest, like possibly chocolate or dried fruit, and swallow that whole when doing WBTB, but I didn't get around to try that yet.

Originally Posted by Xanous

I was going to post a long thing about this but really I just have one question.
Has anyone tried or heard of this or is it just a fluke?

I sort of stumbled on the fact that a cup of coffee before bed time or nap time greatly increases the success rate for Lucid Dreams, Sleep Paralysis and Recall regardless of how much sleep I get. I tend to be a heavy sleeper and the caffeine seems to negate that. Maybe it's just me.

I was never really one for using lucid aids until now. Nothing else ever worked.

Yes this is true,but...only
Drink coffee when your mind is tired.
In other words, drink it when you're trying to LD with a tecnique that require you to wake up after sleeping and go back to sleep after a period of time or if you are too sleepy.

Try to drink it 25 minutes before you go to bed because coffee takes 45 minutes to react.

If you drink it too early,then you will certainly be having trouble to sleep since your mind are already awake.

Originally Posted by Acedreamer

Yes this is true,but...only
Drink coffee when your mind is tired.
In other words, drink it when you're trying to LD with a tecnique that require you to wake up after sleeping and go back to sleep after a period of time or if you are too sleepy.

Try to drink it 25 minutes before you go to bed because coffee takes 45 minutes to react.

If you drink it too early,then you will certainly be having trouble to sleep since your mind are already awake.

45 minutes? With me it takes just one minute for the full effect.

Same for me. I drink a cup of coffee and my Mind immediately is releaved of any sluggishness and cloudyness.

Well I think we're going to have to run a couple of experiments on this one. I say we do it together and a couple of nights.

I bet this would work well with WBTB. Last night was kind of turned into that. However I slept for only an hour and a half, woke for one hour, downed a cup and went straight to bed. I woke from my lucid 3 hours later. I don't know. This does require more experimenting. Unfortunately I am out of coffee tonight and I'm too tired to care. I only got 5 hours sleep last night. Funny, I always thought you had to get more sleep to have a lucid.

Originally Posted by dodobird

45 minutes? With me it takes just one minute for the full effect.

YES dodobird, like i said,
it all depends on the tecnique that you are using to LD,
If you are DILD'ing than, it might not work well since your mind are usually awake at that point.

Try drinking it while attempting LD with the WBTB technique or WILD since it require you to wake up feeling groggy and tired.

Yes, i think you should try it 1st and see what happen.

OK, I want to join the experiment. I think it has a potential because coffee has a very strong effect on enhancing my cognitive functions.
but how do we delay the effect?
If I will drink a cup of coffee before bedtime, or while doing WBTB, I will not be able to fall asleep.

Could we try taking benadryl (allergy pills) which make you tired and a shot of espresso?

How about this:

Sleep deprivation + WBTB + Coffee;

Stay awake longer than usual. Hours longer and go to bed when you're truely exausted due to sleep deprivation: You're bound to wake up very messed up and groggy. In this state it's easy to fall back asleep within seconds after awakening. What if you make some coffee the night before, cool it down to Ice-coffee in a bottle next to your bed, wake up seriously messed up and groggy, down all the coffee and go back to sleep?

I'm going to try this very very soon. I think tomorrow morning, since tonight I'll be making some artwork with a friend and I'll probably stay up late doing so. I haven't smoked any cannabis in a while so I'm currently experiencing a massive REM-rebound with significantly increased DreamRecall. Anyone in for this one?

I dont like sleep deprivation in the name of lucid dreaming. It seems to extreame for me but go ahead and tell us what happens.

I prefer a little to drink it the Irish way.
Coffee+Liqour...should help you fall asleep and awake at the same time.