Thread: Melatonin

Originally Posted by skarudie

I find that I can almost not remember dreams at all without Melatonin. It makes you sleep MUCH deeper, and adds insanity to dreams.

Meaning without it I dream about normal stuff like going to work.

With it I dream detailed and crazy things.

I agree that too much melatonin makes it more difficult to remember dreams because it causes a person to sleep too deep.

But I love the crazy things that just the right amount of melatonin adds to my dreams, as it makes every night a new and exciting adventure.

With melatonin I never know where I am going to end up at or what I am going to be doing, and that's what is so exciting about it.

I hate dreaming about normal stuff like work. I get enough of that during the day. Night time is my time for adventure.

Originally Posted by skarudie

I find that I can almost not remember dreams at all without Melatonin. It makes you sleep MUCH deeper, and adds insanity to dreams.

Meaning without it I dream about normal stuff like going to work.

With it I dream detailed and crazy things.

I take 3mg a night.

(The main reason I take it is because it improves overall quality of sleep and makes me feel better the next day).

Hear hear!

Serotonin! <-> Melatonin!

And DMT. ;p

I belive I've found a downside to taking a melatonin supplement. Although it is said to not be addictive, just try falling asleep without taking it after you have been taking it for a while. It's not easy.

Since seritonin is converted into melatonin by the body I am thinking that as long as my seritonin levels are high enough, my body should be able to supply all of the melatonin I need to sleep well.

As for the exciting dreams I was able to have by taking a higher level of melatonin, I've found that I can have the same exciting dreams by using tones similar to binaural beats to lower my body into a deep theta sleep state naturally, and then raise the beats up closer to the alpha state when I want to wake up, which makes it easier to wake up from the dreams and remember them.

One thing I've found about using tones to fall asleep and go into the theta state is that it helps if the tones are very soft and disguised behind some soft music so they are not noticable. Then when I want the tones to wake me up like when I expect to be in a rem cycle, I just raise the volume and frequency of the tones.

Originally Posted by iadr

I belive I've found a downside to taking a melatonin supplement. Although it is said to not be addictive, just try falling asleep without taking it after you have been taking it for a while. It's not easy.

Since seritonin is converted into melatonin by the body I am thinking that as long as my seritonin levels are high enough, my body should be able to supply all of the melatonin I need to sleep well.

Assuming you don't have seriously, dangerously low levels of serotonin, how much you have isn't going to be the limiting agent here when it comes to melatonin production. No matter how much serotonin you have in your body, if you sit around in bright lights until 5 seconds before you try to sleep, you are going to get well screwed with your melatonin supply. Light/darkness is what throttles your melatonin production, not precursor supply (with a normal human being, at least), so the best all-natural way to ramp up your melatonin is going with the flow of daylight and resisting your urges to turn on lights after sundown. That's tough, which is why supplementation is such an appealing alternative.

Originally Posted by Spamtek

No matter how much serotonin you have in your body, if you sit around in bright lights until 5 seconds before you try to sleep, you are going to get well screwed with your melatonin supply. Light/darkness is what throttles your melatonin production, not precursor supply (with a normal human being, at least), so the best all-natural way to ramp up your melatonin is going with the flow of daylight and resisting your urges to turn on lights after sundown. That's tough, which is why supplementation is such an appealing alternative.

That makes sense and is exactly what I read on the Saltcube site, that in order to be able to get to sleep easily, avoid watching TV, avoid using the computer, and avoid other bright lights before going to bed. It makes sense now. I guess that's sort of hard to do though unless a person has a dark room they can sit in for about 30 minutes before to be and unwind.

In place of the melatonin I've found that just eating a couple of pieces of multi-grain toast before going to bed works really well at putting me to sleep fast, even better than the melatonin did.

The highest dose of Melatonin I took in one night was 60 mg's (not 60 mcg's). I would have to agree that taking too much is harmful to dream recall, as I had a dream that night that seemed like it lasted for a couple of years, yet I don't remember a thing about it.

I take about 15 mg Melatonin a night, and my dream recall has improved. I won't say this can be directly attributed to Melatonin, as I've only been trying to recall my dreams for only a short time. However, a common opinion among my friends is that it has added vividness to their dreams and helped them with dream recall.

Just a quick question. I bought some melatonin tablets... and this is what the dosage says on the label:

Melatonin as an antioxidant and to help provide stamina and endurance the next morning:
Take 1 tablet 3 times a day with liquid.

Melatonin as anti-stress active:
Take 1 tablet 3 times a day with liquid.

Melatonin for relief of sleeplessness at night:
Take 3 to 5 tablets half an hour before bedtime or as directed by your healthcare professional.

Ingredients
Contains as homeopathic ingredient 3mg Melatonin 6x per tablet .

Do they mean, 18mg per tablet??????? Then how the hell can a safe dose be 3-5 tablets??

(by the way, heres a link of the product (exact) which I bought)
http://www.epharmacy.com.au/product....n+Tablets+90++