Thread: Dream Potentiating Herbs Listed

Originally Posted by dark_wolf

I find that garlic works.

ugh, in what sort of way? Do you have anything specific to back this up?

Yeah, I went to a Greek dinner recently that included a load of different dips made mostly of raw garlic. I had a LD that night and remembered I'd read somewhere someone saying garlic works. Must give it a go again sometime when I dont have to go near anyone for a few days.

Originally Posted by dark_wolf

I find that garlic works.

Heard that before, but never seen it backed up by significant evidence.

Could it have been a coincidence? Or have you tried it serveral times all with success? And how much garlic do you suggest eating?

In four separate experiments spread out over the course of several months, one OOO gelatin capsule packed full with powdered Silene Capensis root acquired from a reputable vendor was taken daily for 3-5 days.

Absolutely no differences from normal sleep and dreaming were noticed at any time. As always, dreaming varied from night. I'm sure that expectations and effort also played a role. As of now, my best guess is that the placebo (expectation) effect is what CAN but not always DOES have an effect on dreaming, whether the placebo is Silene Capensis, an empty pill, or whatever else.

This is just my experience. So, don't take offense if it differs from yours. Different plants often have different effects on different people.

Now that my DreamRecall has significantly increased I'm willing to give Silene Capensis another try. I'll do it tomorrow; First thing in the morning on an empty stomach I'll drink a cup of tea with 2 teaspoons of crushed Silene Capensis. I've heard of another ingestion method for this herb: Putting it into a cup of cold water, mixing it vigorously with a fork untill foam starts to form ontop of the water and then suck up this foam till you feel bloated. Perhaps I'l going to try this.
Anyone in possession of this herb, AKA African DreamRoot, willing to try this simultaniously with me and report back results?

And tonight I'm going to roll a joint from a minor amount of tobacco, mostly Mugwort and a little bit of African DreamRoot. Who knows it might work this way. I think soon I'm going to order a DreamBean called "Enthada Rheedii". It's another supposed DreamHerb and I can only hope that this one has significant effects that have no possibility of being placebo effecs. Only 1 way to find out.

Does anybody know where I can get some mugwort?
Is it possible to pick Mugwort up from my local supermarket? And if so, what do i ask for, just mugwort?
Ive also tried doing a quick google search and not had much luck, so if anybody knows of a good online supplier of mugwort, please pm me,
i tried iamshaman, and I couldn't find what i was looking for.
Cheers

Mugwort grows wild allmost everywhere and is easy to identify. Stems ranging from darkgreen to red, leafs devided with fingers, upsides of leafs are darkgreen while the downsides are silvery-grey, sometimes hairy/fuzzy. Search for it on Erowid, check the images and chances are it grows near you. I got my mugwort at a herbalist that sells dried herbs.

Interresting News Flash: I have recently ordered and aquired 2 Enthada Reedhi DreamBeans. According to the instructions of Azarius Smartshop, where I bought it, I should make a Tobacco of the white endosperm inside the beans and smoke that for DreamPotentiating effects. Anyone else got any valuable information on these Dreambeans? And Specifically the method of use and dosage?

Let me know.

First night after smoking the rather hard, white, strange endosperm of the Entada Rheedii DreamBean I did have interresting dreams and some recall; which is noteworthy since I haven't had any dreamrecall at all the last half year if not longer.

The second night I smoked it again, like the first time in a mediumsize pipe-bowl on a bed of Tobacco, but because I was severely restless I took my Sleep medication not wanting to be a zombie the next day. Midazolam. VERY strong medicine. I was gone in 60seconds and slept way too deep to remember my dreams.

Now I'm a little ill. Caught a rather tough cold and my body feels a little weak..etc so that\ll be affecting my sleep and dreams for a while. When I'm recovered and fresh again I will try smoking the dreambean again.

Just had some english Backpackers over at my place who were travelling to Japan. They are lovely, inspiring people and in their presence I dreamt ALOT of very vivid, mystical dreams. Now they're gone again and back on the Road and to my surprise I am no longer ill-ish so I will give smoking the DreamBean another try tonight.

Tonight I will also be sleeping in a Mongolian Yurt tent, till saterday, so that's bound to affect my dreams and sleep too. I'll take my dreambeans and my pipe and I'll report Results when I get back on Saturday.

Hey Ska,
What's the bean like to smoke, do you need a water pipe?
Thanks for keeping us up to date.

V.

Well Sofar I have only smoked it in a regulair pipe. I had very vivid Dreams and my Dreams have remained very vivid. like amplyfied X10 for weeks and weeks now since I've last smoked it. However my Dream Recall JUST can't reach it. I have these HUGE impressions and intangable memories during the day which are huge in memory content, but JUST beyond my reach to grasp and put into sensible thoughts/words.

Tonight I will smoke it again while still being high on good hashish.

Hello everyone. Tonight I have been researching plants a few of them being dream aids. I have seeds for Cypripedium calceolus(Yellow Lady's Slipper) which I am going to start micropropagating soon. I haven't been able to find much information on dose and the reliability of effects. However it is supposed to be a solid dream enhancer according to folk tradition.

Honestly one of the reasons that I registered was to refute something said in relation to solvents which was never really cleared up. Alcohol (ethanol) if left to it's own devices will not ever be 100% because it will absorb moisture out of the air. So unless you buy lab grade 100% ethanol, it isn't. Also once you open it, after a while it will no longer be 100% ethanol. Now methanol is a low alcohol. It has a lower vaporisation point than ethanol. Is it toxic? YES Are most organic solvents toxic? YES. However denatured alcohol and methanol can be used so long as they leave no residue (ie reagent grade) and they are evaporated completely. Just because you see no more solvent doesn't mean that some didn't get trapped in the crude extract. So some people will use a gentle heat source of some type to ensure the rest evaporates also.

I actually never got great results from Calea as it just interrupts my sleep too much. I grew it a few years back and definitly got my best results from fresh flowers. I still remember this image I had from one of the dreams where I saw the sun as being blue energy chasing orange-red energy in a circular fashion. Its a very easy plant to grow.

Mugwort has been my favorite for a long time. I am currently growing it. If you even have a greenish yellow thumb you should try growing it as its super easy. It is pretty bullet proof for anyone in the temperate world.

Does anyone have information reguarding Dubosia hopwoodii? It is the dream herb of choice among the Aboriginal people of Australia.

amanita muscaria- Shamans used to make a tea out of this by paraboiling it and then urinating it. When pissed out the chemical is more exposed and even easily injested.

The shaman would then pee and give it to his tribes people and they would drink it without all the harmful side effects.

Soo.....
if you want to drink you pee then go right ahead it will probably help your dreams more then just eating it. and your side effects are increased...

This is all research I did for a school project...uhm..yeah so I beleive its true but do you?

IF there is someone crazy enough to do it report back with results

I did a long time ago. If you are dead set on this then I would recomend picking your own. Of course you need to learn a good bit about this for it to be safe. In my experience the smart shop stock is always more narcotic than hallucinogenic. There is a coctail of chemicals in the Fly Algeric and in the fall they are supposed to be more on the narcotic side. When I was 18 or 19 I did a couple of experiments with this. It would just knock me out. If I dreamt I had no recall. You could avoid drinking urine by extracting the compounds out of it. Is it really crazy though to persue whatever lies beyond within us? Is it crazy to overcome your impulses through streingth of wiil to attempt to reach that end? Can they be dangerous? Yes, but it is all in how you approach them.

Muscarine, muscamol, and ibonic acid are the main compounds in the Amanita muscaria. It is said to be antichlorigenic in nature. Other chemicals of this sort are found in the tropane family and occure in some members of the Nightshade family (ie Datura, Belladona, Mandrake, Angel Trumpet, Henbane) The danger with these plants is minimised by taking small doses or working with an extract of a known streingth. I like Mandrake a lot. You make it into a salve which knocks your ass out. If you are pretty much comatose you aren't much of a threat to yourself. Anyways these plants will make you have crazy mostly lucid dreams when used correctly.

I couldn't stop laughing after reading this: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=33593

Acorus calamus is better suited for use as a stimulant or digestive tonic at low doses. Apparently a lot of the commercial stuff can be badly preserved and have mold in it. Also the Asian species which is closely related has a carcinogenic substance in it. However the Asian version is the one with more hallucinogenic activity. It is believed that even for psychoactive purposes you should work with smaller doses often. A lot of these plants contain powerfull compounds. People should respect them of expect to pay the price.

ive heard that oral doses of DMT with a MAOI right b4 sleep increaes chances of lucid dreaming and you will trip donkey balls

If something like LSD or psilocybin works for you, than this might also. Psilocybin is most likely metabolized into psilocin. Psilocybin is the phosphate ester of psilocin, meaning that it has some extra phosphorus atoms and an oxygen which make it more stable. The psilocin is then pretty much metabolized into DMT before it hits your brain. THe other half of ayahuasca is Banisteriopsis caapi. This vine contains other compounds in the same family of alkaloids as LSD, DMT, and 4HO-DMT(psilocin), however they have the distinction of being very powerfull short acting MAOI's. In addition they are strongly depressant and mildly hallucinogenic in their own right. In fact traditionally strong coffee and/or large amounts of strong tobacco are consumed to stay awake. So without that you can fall asleep for sure. However in my experience, you just sleep. Some people might be able to attain lucidity with it, but it has never worked for me. If you are planning on trying this out, please research the potential food and medication interactions with the Harmine and Harmaline (MAOI's in B.caapi) as not paying attention to this could have severe consequences including long term hypertension. It is worth saying though that if you aren't doing this with the things that you experiment with, you are being a fool anyways. Respect your body and educate yourself about everything that you put in it!

Off course. Oral DMT + a MAOI is the basic principle of Ayahuasca. Sleeping on ayahuasca is bound to give you very vivid dreams.
However for dreaming only a very small dose of ayahuasca is recommendable.
Larger doses of ayahuasca are 1) unlikely to even allow you to sleep and 2)likely to induce significant nausea which at one point would wake you up from your sleep.

Originally Posted by Atropos

Acorus calamus is better suited for use as a stimulant or digestive tonic at low doses. Apparently a lot of the commercial stuff can be badly preserved and have mold in it. Also the Asian species which is closely related has a carcinogenic substance in it. However the Asian version is the one with more hallucinogenic activity. It is believed that even for psychoactive purposes you should work with smaller doses often. A lot of these plants contain powerfull compounds. People should respect them of expect to pay the price.

Calamus is a very medicinal herb, good for circulation, heart, etc. in small doses if taken internally. More than a small dose it is a powerful emetic. I discovered that the hard way one night when I made tea with one of the ingredients was calamus. I was up half the night puking my guts out! My stomach was turning inside out! I popped blood vessels in my face from the strain of puking. So careful. The Yogis in India mix it with their hash to smoke. This is a good way to use it. It takes the anxiety edge off of the hash, and it counteracts many of the negative side-effects of pot, it protects your adrenals. As a psychoactive, it is barely noticeable. It doesn't make you hallucinate. The way I take it since I don't smoke pot is I chew on a few little pieces and swallow the saliva. It is very strong peppery taste.

Originally Posted by SKA

Off course. Oral DMT + a MAOI is the basic principle of Ayahuasca. Sleeping on ayahuasca is bound to give you very vivid dreams.
However for dreaming only a very small dose of ayahuasca is recommendable.
Larger doses of ayahuasca are 1) unlikely to even allow you to sleep and 2)likely to induce significant nausea which at one point would wake you up from your sleep.

You puke pretty soon after drinking it. If you were taking it in the form of an extracted material or synthetic form, it could be incapsulated and you might not get sick at all. Honestly though I'd stick with mugwort or African dream root and take the ayahuasca for other reasons. If you don't take a stimulant with a large dose of the B.caapi it will absolutely knock you out. I'm not saying that it will be a sound sleep. For me at least, tryptamines (DMT,LSD,Psilocybin) don't do anything for dreaming and I just wake up feeling like I wasted them. Ayahuasca is more for astreal projection than lucid dreaming.

Originally Posted by Atropos

If something like LSD or psilocybin works for you, than this might also. Psilocybin is most likely metabolized into psilocin. Psilocybin is the phosphate ester of psilocin, meaning that it has some extra phosphorus atoms and an oxygen which make it more stable. The psilocin is then pretty much metabolized into DMT before it hits your brain. THe other half of ayahuasca is Banisteriopsis caapi. This vine contains other compounds in the same family of alkaloids as LSD, DMT, and 4HO-DMT(psilocin), however they have the distinction of being very powerfull short acting MAOI's. In addition they are strongly depressant and mildly hallucinogenic in their own right. In fact traditionally strong coffee and/or large amounts of strong tobacco are consumed to stay awake. So without that you can fall asleep for sure. However in my experience, you just sleep. Some people might be able to attain lucidity with it, but it has never worked for me. If you are planning on trying this out, please research the potential food and medication interactions with the Harmine and Harmaline (MAOI's in B.caapi) as not paying attention to this could have severe consequences including long term hypertension. It is worth saying though that if you aren't doing this with the things that you experiment with, you are being a fool anyways. Respect your body and educate yourself about everything that you put in it!

yes very true. Ive had Ayahuasca before and ive also had yopo and a crystalized DMT sulfate i believe.the ayahuasca takes a munite to take affect and is more subtle.the yopo is very powerful,but the smokable DMT sulfate is extremley potent and affects are immedate.

So what is the most consistent dream herb?