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      hey all. i just got my order in from www.brilliantdreams.com it is a pill supposed to enhance the possiblity of attaining a lucid dream. naturally im skeptical based on the results they post on thier site as of course no pill could substitute for technique, but it is basically a complex of b5, spiderlilly, and melatonin. it is the only pill i know of that us specific to dreams clarity and recall. i was wondering if anyone else has seen this? i couldnt dismiss the curiosity. i will post results after i give it a couple tries.

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      What's B5? And why is spider lilly in there? Are you sure your not buying tumor or cancer treatment?

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      yes please post how it works out!
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      it has
      50mg vitamin b5
      4mg lycoris radiata
      100mg choline
      .5mg melatonin.

      i am gonna swallow one right now and go to bed. ill post tomorrow about results. does anyone here ever check out saltcube metaphysics www.saltcube.com i just bought a dvd off thier site and its really a worthy purchase. check it out if interested. it takes a different approach to WILDS.

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      I'd buy some but I only have a debit card... damn ANZ
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      Odd mix.
      Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
      What&#39;s B5? And why is spider lilly in there? Are you sure your not buying tumor or cancer treatment?
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      B5 is a vitamin used in the biosynthesis of carbohydrates, fats, and proteins- deficiency is extremely rare (I&#39;ve never heard of this effecting dreams, maby its there to ensure that neurotransmitter producing enzymes are made in sufficient quantity (like B6 does) or to make sure the body is making enough cerebrose et al. to fuel the brain).
      Spider lilly has been used as a sedative for children, maby it sedates without dulling dreams.
      Melatonin helps with sleep.
      Choline is made into acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter important in thought, memory, and learning.

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      Melitonin helps you stay asleep. Its naturaly produced in the body. I take it thats probably what would help you stay asleep the most so you can stay lucid and not wake up.

      Healthy young and middle-aged adults usually secrete about 5 to 25 micrograms of melatonin each night - at least 80 times less than is in the commonly sold 2 milligram (mg.) tablet or capsule.
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      I used to take melatonin. Its pathetic compared to the med&#39;s I take now.
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      well, i took one last night. the only factor that i would like to eliminate in the future is the fact that i drank a beer last night. i NEVER drink, but for some reason i did without thinking and i think that defintley afected my dream ability, however, i did notice that it REALLY makes sleeping easy. like, it doesnt knock you out, but when you&#39;rr drifting off, you really feel like your *drifting* off. i also noticed my dreams, which i didnt remember so well cuz of the beer, were much more linear and seemed to follow a plot rather than be a scattering of unrelated events, which is an effect noted on thier site. im defintley enthusiastic about trying it again and will continue to post my progress.

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      Quote Originally Posted by art View Post
      well, i took one last night. the only factor that i would like to eliminate in the future is the fact that i drank a beer last night. i NEVER drink, but for some reason i did without thinking and i think that defintley afected my dream ability, however, i did notice that it REALLY makes sleeping easy. like, it doesnt knock you out, but when you&#39;rr drifting off, you really feel like your *drifting* off. i also noticed my dreams, which i didnt remember so well cuz of the beer, were much more linear and seemed to follow a plot rather than be a scattering of unrelated events, which is an effect noted on thier site. im defintley enthusiastic about trying it again and will continue to post my progress.
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      Well anything that assist in clarity, and vividness and a calming agent cant be too bad. Keep us posted on the research&#33;
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      Sounds good, how much is it?
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      The costs vary by the size of the bottle. The more you buy in bulk the better the deal. I think i got 60 of them for 45&#036;. If i were to buy them again, I will probably opt for a larger bottle, but 60 is pretty good.

      Anyway, I took one last night for the 2nd time. Once again, it really does make you tired and really easy to go to sleep. I take melatonin, valerian root, passionflower, and other herbal sleep aids, but this one you really feel the tiredness. Anyway, I didn&#39;t notice any particular vivdness in my dreams and wasn&#39;t able to recall them all that well, but that might be due to the fact that it was storming a lot last night and I didn&#39;t sleep very deeply. I did notice, once again, that my dreams seemed to be more linear and less random and senseless. I suspect, as with most things, the effects get more noticeable the more you take it. I&#39;ll keep updating.

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      ok, update for anyone who&#39;s following my experiment with BrilliantDreams. ive been taking it everynight for about a week now. while i havent come any closer to lucidity, i have noticed that my dreams and clearer to me upon awakening and are much more linear. ill keep poppin&#39;em and lettin you guys know.

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      I just received my bottle of Brilliant Dreams pills this morning, I&#39;m going to be logging my experiences with it over the next 30 days in a personal notebook. I always have a healthy skepticism for products like this promoted on the Internet, but I&#39;m also the kind of person who has to try something for myself before passing judgment. So we shall see if this product really works or not.

      But keep posting your experiences and let us know how its working out for you&#33;
      To bed, I said.

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      id look into it a little more. read around on other sites before you buy it. it could be like a nightmare inducer. talk to someone from a different site you has ACTUALLY used it. it could be a prank

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      he has actually used it. for over a week now
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      Quote Originally Posted by jeremysmithgrind View Post
      id look into it a little more. read around on other sites before you buy it. it could be like a nightmare inducer. talk to someone from a different site you has ACTUALLY used it. it could be a prank
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      Yeah I read a posting on an LD4All forum from someone who had used the Brilliant Dreams pill. Two people said it increased their dream activity, however not much was mentioned about it inducing lucidity. I realize the Internet postings of two anonymous bulletin board members is in no way scientific or comprehensive, so I will make myself a guinea pig and see for myself if there are any noticeable effects.

      I&#39;ll be sure and post my results once I am through with the first 30 days of using it.
      To bed, I said.

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      Aww man I have to wait 30 days....

      Well anyway thanks for being our gineau pig. It&#39;s well appreciated, and I hope you get more lucids.
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      We here at Dreamviews apperciate stuff that can make our dreams more linear, but I feel sorry for the uninformed people out there who stumble upon the Brilliant Dreams site who don&#39;t know much about lucid dreaming. Those people will get tricked into thinking they can just buy a product and have lucid dreams. Fortunately, we here can go into these types of things with our eyes open, so to speak, because the method is still what it&#39;s all about.

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      i think it could aid in lcudity in the effect that it makes dreams more linear. i think it is easier to realize a dreamsign or that something isn&#39;t quite right when the events in a dream seem to have some coherence rather than you go from one thing to another unrelated thing. ive been taking it every night and that is one effect i have noticed however i think thier claims of having the eye-opening mind-shatteringly vividness are very exagerrated. then again, they say the effects are best felt after taking them for a duration so i wont reach a final verdict till another week or so.

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      Well I&#39;m all for experiments for sure, but not matter what any Site/Advertising says, Lucids will not come in a bottle. They can be great aids for sure but you still have to practice and train yourself, period. I think sites like these shoudl call them aids in helping attain lucidity instead of saying you&#39;ll have guaranteed Lucid dreams etc. They are just playing on the people who read about it for the first time and think it can come to them as easy. b6 has seem to help me in the same way so again I&#39;m all for the aids with substance&#33;&#33;&#33;
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      Ha ha, I can see the "lucid dreams in a bottle" controversy has been opened here so I just want to say a few things so you guys don&#39;t get the wrong idea.

      I&#39;ve had an interest and studied/practiced lucid dreaming skills off and on since I was 16 (I&#39;m now 26). My main interest in the Brilliant Dreams product is the effect of galanthamine on nightly dreams, and on conscious experience in general. Although their website is filled with claims that have all the familiar symptoms of overstatement, like art vandelay my curiosity is stronger than my reliance on second-hand skepticism. I need to experience something directly before I make a judgment on it. Seeing that there is a lack of first-hand accounts of experience with the product, I figured that I would purchase a bottle and see what results if any are to be had from it. I realize that at &#036;39.95 per bottle this isn&#39;t practical for everyone, but it is a low enough price that it isn&#39;t going to break me financially.

      So hopefully at the end of my bottle my account, coupled with art vandelay&#39;s and anyone else who decides to give it a try, will be a start toward accurate first-hand experiences of it so that people can choose to try it if they want to.

      And make no mistake, if I do not experience any positive results from the product I will let you know&#33;
      To bed, I said.

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      yeah, their site really does go overboard with thier claims. to hint at the idea that someone with no dream trainer or knowledge will not only fully recall, but EXPERIENCE these insanely vivid dreams is absurd. i love the claims from "people" that they became lucid after one night and soforth, not to mention the lure of dream sex as one of thier main selling points. i dont know, i havent used it long enough to pass a full judgement, but as of now it kinda pisses me off. i already experiment with b6 and melatonin to moderate to minor effect, so the choline and red spider lilly is the reason i bought it.

      hopefully by the end of mine and the captain&#39;s experiments we can provide you&#39;s with an accurate account.

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      Quote Originally Posted by art View Post
      yeah, their site really does go overboard with thier claims. to hint at the idea that someone with no dream trainer or knowledge will not only fully recall, but EXPERIENCE these insanely vivid dreams is absurd. i love the claims from "people" that they became lucid after one night and soforth, not to mention the lure of dream sex as one of thier main selling points. i dont know, i havent used it long enough to pass a full judgement, but as of now it kinda pisses me off. i already experiment with b6 and melatonin to moderate to minor effect, so the choline and red spider lilly is the reason i bought it.

      hopefully by the end of mine and the captain&#39;s experiments we can provide you&#39;s with an accurate account.
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      If you had to put a short test together versus their dreampill versus the Melatonin and B6 would say at least they are in equal in brining vivid or clear / linear dreams? I&#39;ve never taken Melatonin, what&#39;s that like and have you had any promising results?
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      b6 seems to affect everyone differently. melatonin just seems to aid in sleeping and i never noticed any notable difference in my dreams. the BrilliantDreams pill has choline in it, which i think is basically b6.

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