Thread: Calea Zacatechichi Experiences

i smoked it once years ago. i had precogish dreams.

Originally Posted by ranma187

i smoked it once years ago. i had precogish dreams.
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Hmm Interresting. Did you notice any other difference that night? Like Colors, Lightlevel, overall vividness and stronger emotions in that dream too? Can you prescribe it a bit more in detail?

Me and my brother smoked it. i only had a little bit. it was similar to weed.
but the nex day we were driving through the b.c. rockies. The dream seemed so vivid. i was in the car. my bro and his GF were up front. i looked out the window it was night time and i saw trees burning. I woke up but it was day time. but i saw similar scenery.

my bro said he dreamt he saw fire trucks speeding down the highway. during our waking state we had to detour because of a forest fire.

all i can say was that it didn't feel like a dream. more like i was seeing. (ever read Castaneda you'll know what i am talking about)

calea's most notable effect on my dreams is that it saturates the dreamscape with a sense of continuity and realism and solidity rarely experienced.

i almost never remember viewing the sudden, random, seemingly unrelated shifts that take place within a single dreaming period on a normal night. instead, if i remember dreams at all from a night i've used calea, they are prolonged "episodes" of unusual fluidity and inter-relation.

often i cannot say exactly where one dreaming period left off, and the next began, as the two episodes run together seamlessly.

for instance, the first night i felt the full effects, i dreamt of being in a house with some hostage-takers. i felt safe because i was technically "with them", even though i disapproved of their actions. i disliked the leader immensely.

i tried to make my escape with one other defector, and was chased by the dream nemesis and some cronies, who eventually cornered me to inflict some unspeakable violence.

that synopsis doesn't sound too compelling obviously, but the amount of detail and continuity was startling in retrospect. indeed, if all that i remembered was played in film form, the whole experience was easily an hour in length...i am almost certain it spanned two dreaming periods.

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i often have dreams on calea wherein i am sitting with friends, idly chatting or whatever. on a few occasions i have remembered one of these seemingly innocuous gatherings during waking life, and attempted to resume a certain thread of conversation with this or that friend.

yet they could not remember the conversation, as it had not taken place except in a dream. even though in my mind i could remember J get up to get a drink right after T used the washroom, and E rolled a joint while talking about his day at work, etc etc...all with the same realism as a waking memory.

pretty strange feeling...

or other "small" events, like losing an object, and looking for it the next day before realizing it was never lost in waking life.

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incidentally, lucids are much harder to attain with calea (for me), precisely because of the same realism and continuity which make me wish to use it.

but the handful i have had have been exceptionally vivid and stable compared to my average lucid.

and one night i had three lucids in a while after partaking of calea. one DILD, and two WILDs. i only note this because that is the most i have ever had in one night.

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joyous dream journeys!

Are the strongest effects achieved by smoking? I'd smoke if my lungs didn't kick my ass for it, so I really gotta watch it and look at alternatives. Has anyone used teas exclusively and can comment on what kind of effect it has by itself?

Originally Posted by SoulSearcherX

Are the strongest effects achieved by smoking? I'd smoke if my lungs didn't kick my ass for it, so I really gotta watch it and look at alternatives. Has anyone used teas exclusively and can comment on what kind of effect it has by itself?
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You could try it in capsule form.

Originally Posted by JDream

You could try it in capsule form.
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Really? Well I should be Receiving the Calea DreamHerb I orderedd tomorrow or the day after.
I've ordered 4 grams of Calea Zacatechichi Extract 10X.
It's a powdery extract.

So does anyone on here know when and how to ingest this Calea extract for best results?
I've heard that smoking a Calea Joint + drinking a Calea Tea Early in the Morning will give the desired results on your Dreams later THAT night.
Can anyone confirm that? or tell me otherwise what exactly to do with the Calea Extract for best effects?

(I'm an experienced PotSmoker & Weird-Tea Drinker so that shouldn't be a problem. I downed more things that taste ''untasty'', to make the understatement of the century , and always managed to keep it down.)

Okay yesterday morning my package arrived with 4 Grams of Calea Zacatechichi Dreamherb Extract X10.
I've smoked 3 joints with it: with hash, with weed and one with only tobacco and Calea Extract. in each joint about 0.1 Grams of extract. The effects while awake were very pleasant and obviously noticable. Very calming and physically relaxing, but where weed kind of gets you down and make you wanna close your eyes, Calea keeps your attention focus. In fact by calming the Spontanious Thought Process of the Mind it makes you much more ClearMinded. Great pre-meditation aid too.

That night I dreamt alot of weird and vivid stuff that, unfortunately, I can recall only very scrambled up and incomplete. I want to try it again anyways and then that day I won't be smoking Hash or Weed.


Also, For Fucks Sake, can Someone who had a succesfull Calea Herb/Extract dreaming experience tell me What form they took( Extract or Dried leaf) How they Took the Calea(Tea, Smoking, Capsules), How long prior to sleep they took it and how Much Miligrams or Grams they Took.

Can someone please tell me so I know what to do with the Calea Extract to get the desired results in my dreams?

I actually got my calea last night as well. I ordered 2 oz of dried leaves plus an oz of liquid extract. I tried the extract last night. I’m going to be looking into the capsule option because my goodness the stuff tasted foul. I mixed it with apple juice but it made no difference… it might as well be water. Anyway, it seemed to have a relaxing effect and I fell asleep for a couple of hours, but then I woke up about 1:00 am, not having dreamed. Then I had one of my periodic bouts of insomnia… I couldn’t sleep the rest of the night. About 5:00 in desperation, I made a joint out of the leaves and smoked about half of it. Even the smoke tasted foul. I probably eventually fell asleep about 6:00 and drifted in and out of sleep for the next three hours before it was time to get up and go to work. But I really had some wild dreams during those three hours! I was dreaming about hearing a song in Spanish… I really wish I could have written down what I heard, just to see if it was really just gibberish. I imagine it was… I don’t speak Spanish and while I took classes a while back, I don’t remember much. I had a false awakening and I explained to a DC who happened to be there (didn’t manage a reality check) that I was having hypnagogic hallucinations. I had a series of fairly vivid dreams after that. With one I was hearing some poems which I also wish I had written down. At one point I was briefly lucid but I woke up shortly afterwards. It’s way too early to say it was the calea having an effect, but normally when I get this little sleep, I can barely recall any dreams at all if any.

I need some information on making capsules. I bought some empty gelatin capsules... I could put the liquid extract in there but I have to do it right as I'm about to take them as the alcohol makes the gelatin soft. With the leaves, is it enough to just grind it up and fill up the capsules? I can't find much information on consuming calea like that. Now I wish I'd bought some powdered extract rather than the dry leaves...

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Okay I found good info using the erowid search feature, and it seems grounding the leaves and stuffing it in the capsules is a fine method. Just now I filled the capsules with the alcohol extract and took about five capsules, or about 10 dropper fulls, which is double the dosage I took yesterday. I'm hoping to get lots of sleep tonight since I didn't get much yesterday, and hopefully I'll have some good stuff to report tomorrow morning...

Originally Posted by SoulSearcherX

I need some information on making capsules. I bought some empty gelatin capsules... I could put the liquid extract in there but I have to do it right as I'm about to take them as the alcohol makes the gelatin soft. With the leaves, is it enough to just grind it up and fill up the capsules? I can't find much information on consuming calea like that. Now I wish I'd bought some powdered extract rather than the dry leaves...

EDIT:

Okay I found good info using the erowid search feature, and it seems grounding the leaves and stuffing it in the capsules is a fine method. Just now I filled the capsules with the alcohol extract and took about five capsules, or about 10 dropper fulls, which is double the dosage I took yesterday. I'm hoping to get lots of sleep tonight since I didn't get much yesterday, and hopefully I'll have some good stuff to report tomorrow morning...
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Okay Read This.
This is a man who tried Calea and reports having read the same thing I have read somewhere. He confirmed that it is true.

Chantal Indians, who used to use Calea alot, Drank a tea made from dried Calea Leaf, Followed with a Smoke of Calea as a Chaser to get rid of the Bitter taste of the tea. They did this not long before bedtime. I say 15/30 minutes would be fine.

So soulsearcher we've both still got some Calea lying around. Shall we experiment together?
I have a power-like extract with some twigs and crushed leaf in it. It's 10 times as potent as normal dried Calea.

What I will do tonight is:
30 minutes before bedtime I'll prepare Calea Tea by opening up a TeaBag, filling it up with 0,5 Grams of Calea extract ( 0,5 X 10 = 5, meaning 0,5 Grams of extract equals 5 grams of Calea Herb. )
I'll drink the cup of Bitter bitter Calea Tea sitting up in bed while relaxing.
After I'ver finished the Tea I'll Smoke some Calea extract, on a bed of Tobacco, through my small Pipe.
The smoke would be within 15 minutes before going to sleep or so.

You in for the same experiment SoulSearcher? The way the Indians who have always used Calea used it?
Only for the Tea you'd have to add 5 grams dried Calea to equal my Calea extract-dosis in my Tea.

I could do the tea and smoke a hand rolled cigarette made out of leaves, but I don't have the same powdered extract you do, so I'm not sure how proper that would be for the sake of an experiment. Last night my dreams were not all that vivid. I just recall two dreams, and nothing was special about them. At any rate, I think the smoking seemed to make a difference, at least based on my experiences the last two nights, because I smoked the night before and did not last night. I'm not really looking to smoke that often, but I can do it tonight. I may think about buying a bong to smoke calea if I decide I need to smoke it regularly...

SoulSearcher, You can make really good homemade bongs only using an empty plastic half-liter bottle, a Hollow Pen-tube/Straw and a Lighter (To burn small holes in the Plastic).

I opened up a teabag, added roughly 0.4 Grams of Calea Extract and tied it closed again.I'm gunna go to bed in a minute and make&Drink the Tea. When I'm done drinking the Tea I'll Smoke 0.2 Grams of the Calea Extract through my pipe on a bed of Tobacco. After that I'll be going to sleep within 15 Minutes or so.

The extract is 10 times as potent as the Drid herb alone, so that means for the Tea it would take 4 Grams of your Calea Herb and for the Smoke you'd have to smoke 2 Grams of your Dried Calea herb to equal my extract.

I'm gunna do this anywayz tonight...In a minute. How about you?

Well I don't think I can smoke that much leaf, homemade bong or not, so the experiement won't be that scientific, but I'm willing to try the tea and as much smoke as I can handle.

Originally Posted by SoulSearcherX

Well I don't think I can smoke that much leaf, homemade bong or not, so the experiement won't be that scientific, but I'm willing to try the tea and as much smoke as I can handle.
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Trust me: The Tea is worse. Now I downed it all last night followed up by smoking some Calea Extract to my Pipe as a Chaser.
It's not that bad to smoke: A rather harsh smoke, so kind of extra harsh for non-smokers: Smoke it through a Bong and that shoul;d take Care of most of the Harshness: Smoking through a Bong delivers, cleaner, purer and softer smoke to inhale.

Bot that Tea.Holy Moses, THAT was Bitter. It indeed is, as I recall someone one Erowid sayin, like drinking the ESSENCE of Bitter. Yuck: Have a strong Mint and a Fruitjuice ready as a Chaser. Seriousy.
But I got it down. Like more things that tasted like Satan made up the Flavor, just for the sake of the Psycho-Active effects so that wasn't a mayor problem anywayz.

To bad lately my DreamRecall is unrelyable and I usually wake up with scrambled fragments of Dream I can remember. Same for last night. Remembering even only 1 complete dream + The storyline is Rare lately.

I woke up this morning, remembering small fragments of dreams, like they were about 20 fragments of like 6 different dreams and I don't remember 1 complete dream. Only alot of Fragments from different dreams.
They were indeed Vivid Dreams. Like they were only loose moments. They weren't, but that's what it seems since I only remember scattered fragments of the dreams.

Too bad I can't recall everything clearly and not in a way that it makes some ''storyline-sence'' .
I'll have to train my dreamrecall first, upto waking up and being able to remember 2 dreams a night at least.
Then, I'll do this again. I'll save my Calea Extract for days when I have MUCH better Dream Recall to begin with.

I think if the Chantal indians knew what capsules were, they wouldn't have been drinking that awful tea. Either that, or the act of drinking such a horrific brew helped burn the intention of having powerful dreams in their subconcious.

I pretty much agree with everything you said about the tea. It had cooled down some (not because I was trying to cool it down, but because I couldn't drink it quick enough) and I finally chugged it while plugging my nose, and almost gagged. I tried everything in my fridge as a chaser but the bitter aftertaste didn't go away easily. I'm not doing it again, capsules are fine.

I did smoke a bit from a homemade bong. I fell asleep quickly after that. The smoke was more tolerable than smoking the joint, but my problem is from smoking at all. My throat gets soar and dry for days afterwards, so I'm not making a habit of this either.

I recalled three dreams, a couple of them only fleeting, one of them fairly detailed. Nothing especially vivid like the first night. I've been getting lazy about journaling of late, so it might be a good idea for me to redevelop journaling as a habit.

Originally Posted by SoulSearcherX

I've been getting lazy about journaling of late, so it might be a good idea for me to redevelop journaling as a habit.
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Yeah me 2. Therefor I bought a Special Book with blank pages and a nice cover. I wrote DreamJournal with a Drawing of an EyeSymbol colored with some pastel on the First Page. All my dreams will go in there from now on. The fragmented memories of my Calea Dreams Last night are in there as the First Entry.

This is an interesting link i've found on the research surrounding the planet (Calea Zacatechichi)
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=16295

I just recieved a 114 gram bag of it yesterday. I couldn't wait to fall asleep. Drank some of the tea, gotta say it wasn't that bad. in fact it was ok. (but i'm an avid tea drinker..so maybe i'm used to the bitterness) after the tea i rolled a cig of it and smoked. The smoke wasn't bad either. Though i was amazed at how long it burned. I couldn't even finish the whole thing before i started to get drowsy. I went back to my room and put in a DVD. i didn't get passed the intro credits before i passed out.

My dreams weren't recalled very well, at least not now. BUT. I DID have minor control over them. which i thought was pretty cool because i've never achieved lucidness before. halfway through the night i woke up long enough to chug 4 or 5 glasses of water, then i easily went back to sleep and i amazingly came back to the same dream i left off.

granted this was all done after drinking about 7 beers, smoking about 4 ciggarettes of lion's tail. (it was at going away party). so i'm sure all those other chemicals interfered with the plant and probably caused my waking in the middle of the night.

tonight i'm going to just try smoking the herb, alone without the tea. i'll report back anything interesting when i wake up. maybe this time i'll actually be able to remember the contents of the dream

Originally Posted by Geves

This is an interesting link i've found on the research surrounding the planet (Calea Zacatechichi)
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=16295
granted this was all done after drinking about 7 beers, smoking about 4 ciggarettes of lion's tail. (it was at going away party). so i'm sure all those other chemicals interfered with the plant and probably caused my waking in the middle of the night.

tonight i'm going to just try smoking the herb, alone without the tea. i'll report back anything interesting when i wake up. maybe this time i'll actually be able to remember the contents of the dream
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Too bad about the Beer: It was most likely the cause for you falling asleep waaaay too deep to experience your dreams concious enough to remember them in the morning. Alcohol kills dreamrecall and overall dreaming as it supresses REM-sleep.

The tea wasn't that bad. it was foul but I didn't have a real problem downing it. I'm a Tea Junky too and I drank Wormwood Tea before, Bitter too.I guess the Calea extract was more bitter than your dried herb. The Calea Smoke indeed delivers a nice high while your Mind stays clear.

Next time try not smoking pot, drinking beer or anything that may affect your state of Mind. Only Calea.
I'm going to take a whole week to sleep healthy and in a regulair sleepcycle to improve my recall and dreamvividness and then I shall reach for the Calea Extract again.

I might try Capsules + Smoking next time. And surely I'll make the Tea again. I'll order some more and ask the Smartshop owner (I know her personally) if she knows any details as to how to best ingest Calea. If anyone should know, she would know. If she knows I'll share her advice with you guys in this topic.

Originally Posted by Geves

I just recieved a 114 gram bag of it yesterday. I couldn't wait to fall asleep. Drank some of the tea, gotta say it wasn't that bad. in fact it was ok. (but i'm an avid tea drinker..so maybe i'm used to the bitterness):
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Wow, I'm a tea drinker too but I really couldn't tolerate it. I filled a large tea ball with the leaf and poured boiling water over it in a large mug and let it brew for about 10 minutes. Maybe I made it too strong. How much did you use?

And yeah, I think the other substances you used would have had an affect on your recall. Alcohol for me has always negatively affected my dream recall.

hmmm. well my firend actually made the tea. i thought i would leave it to him. since he's all about herbs (making tinctures, owns lots of books, ect.)

so if it's as bad as people say. he probably didn't steep it long enough.

i plan on trying agian tonight. so i'll probably change my opinion on the herb's taste after tonight. i know that the rule of thumb for herbs is to steep them for 5-8 minutes.

and yeah soul searcher. i'd have to agree with you. the lion's tail/ alcohol probably made my dreams more sparadic (sp?)

for anyone in this thread who wants to read about my experiences with it. i have two entries in my jounral. the last one is too long to post here.
but i must say that i can really tell a difference.

EDIT: ok i found this info on how & how long to make the tea.. since i found it helpful. i thought i'd post it here.
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=12224

Got some more Calea (10x extract, and resin) so I'll post a couple of my experiences on this thread, as I have them. Again, my sleeping habits are so irregular, and often so in(un?)disciplined, that I rarely get a full 8hrs of (otherwise sober) sleep, so my experiences a hardly a great gauge for Calea's true potential.
I've had enough experience with it in the past, though, to know how much of an affect it can have on dream content, length and vividness.

Anyway, here's last night's journal entry. The dream was very vivid. My recall has been Shit lately, though, but I hopefully I'll get on the ball and start adjusting some of my habits to bring it back, within the next couple of days. No promises, though.

09/15/2006
"Music Soothes the Savage Hulk"

Had some Calea and a pretty wild, and very vivid, dream last night. It began in, what seemed to be, this experimental weapons warehouse. Todd was there and so was someone else on my side. Don't know how it started, but there was a fight between us and another guy. Not sure what his role was, before we started fighting, though. I do know that, before all this, this guy ended up drinking some kind of serum. It made him grow to about 20 feet tall, and made his muscles impossibly huge. In short, he was like the incredible hulk, with the same uncontrollable rage, but taller, and without the green.
We escaped to the outside of the warehouse and he followed us. Running down the length of the building, we saw an open cargo door and looked inside. There were all these weird looking rocket launchers or something. We each grabbed one and started firing them down toward this giant, but I think they kept malfunctioning, because all I remember seeing was smoke and sparks coming out of the barrels. We ended up abandoning them.
Anyway, somehow, we were able to defend ourselves long enough to make it to the car, and we drove back to my house. This guy, of course, stayed on our tails, and we ended up bringing the fight back to my neighborhood. Weird thing was, I had a neighbor to the left side of my house, that's not there IRL. It was a big, two story house.
The dream and fighting went on through the night. There was a time that we even ran into the neighbor’s house and the giant chased us by crashing straight through the livingroom wall. (I just don't remember too many details of the fighting, though, because my recall really sucks, lately.)
Some time during the night, (“night”meaning in the dream.) the neighbor had joined our side and ended up finding a way to control this guy..with music.
Next thing I knew, it was the following morning. I remember I had family members that I don't have in real life. Coming outside, after having been split away from my family during the night fight with this huge guy, we met on my front porch and were reunited, glad that everyone was alive. The fighting was so intense, and this guy was so huge, that we ended up destroying both the neighbor’s entire house, and my front yard. There was about a 10x15 ft crater in my lawn. People from all over my neighborhood were passing by my house and just staring, slack-jawed, at all the damage. A couple of guys actually came up and started asking questions, in awe, about what the hell happened. I began to explain, and they just kind of stared at me in disbelief at my answer.
I began hearing music and loud footsteps coming around the corner and smiled, telling the two strangers to sit tight for a moment and they'd understand.
From around the corner came my neighbor's station wagon. (The neighbor that doesn't exist in real life) He was driving really slowly carrying a trailer with a bunch of tools and whatnot. Then, behind the car, comes this massive, Hulkian giant, carrying large piles of wood and other building materials, soothed and entranced by the music that was playing from my neighbor’s car. I could see that, as he was coming closer, he’d begun shrinking a little. Since his rage was being pacified, he was losing a lot of the chemical reaction that made him grow (much like the Hulk.) My neighbor decided to use the last of whatever juice the giant had to help fix the damage that was done to our property.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Got some more Calea (10x extract, and resin) so I'll post a couple of my experiences on this thread, as I have them. Again, my sleeping habits are so irregular, and often so in(un?)disciplined, that I rarely get a full 8hrs of (otherwise sober) sleep, so my experiences a hardly a great gauge for Calea's true potential.
I've had enough experience with it in the past, though, to know how much of an affect it can have on dream content, length and vividness.

Anyway, here's last night's journal entry. The dream was very vivid. My recall has been Shit lately, though, but I hopefully I'll get on the ball and start adjusting some of my habits to bring it back, within the next couple of days. No promises, though.

09/15/2006
"Music Soothes the Savage Hulk"

Had some Calea and a pretty wild, and very vivid, dream last night. It began in, what seemed to be, this experimental weapons warehouse. Todd was there and so was someone else on my side. Don't know how it started, but there was a fight between us and another guy. Not sure what his role was, before we started fighting, though. I do know that, before all this, this guy ended up drinking some kind of serum. It made him grow to about 20 feet tall, and made his muscles impossibly huge. In short, he was like the incredible hulk, with the same uncontrollable rage, but taller, and without the green.
We escaped to the outside of the warehouse and he followed us. Running down the length of the building, we saw an open cargo door and looked inside. There were all these weird looking rocket launchers or something. We each grabbed one and started firing them down toward this giant, but I think they kept malfunctioning, because all I remember seeing was smoke and sparks coming out of the barrels. We ended up abandoning them.
Anyway, somehow, we were able to defend ourselves long enough to make it to the car, and we drove back to my house. This guy, of course, stayed on our tails, and we ended up bringing the fight back to my neighborhood. Weird thing was, I had a neighbor to the left side of my house, that's not there IRL. It was a big, two story house.
The dream and fighting went on through the night. There was a time that we even ran into the neighbor’s house and the giant chased us by crashing straight through the livingroom wall. (I just don't remember too many details of the fighting, though, because my recall really sucks, lately.)
Some time during the night, (“night”meaning in the dream.) the neighbor had joined our side and ended up finding a way to control this guy..with music.
Next thing I knew, it was the following morning. I remember I had family members that I don't have in real life. Coming outside, after having been split away from my family during the night fight with this huge guy, we met on my front porch and were reunited, glad that everyone was alive. The fighting was so intense, and this guy was so huge, that we ended up destroying both the neighbor’s entire house, and my front yard. There was about a 10x15 ft crater in my lawn. People from all over my neighborhood were passing by my house and just staring, slack-jawed, at all the damage. A couple of guys actually came up and started asking questions, in awe, about what the hell happened. I began to explain, and they just kind of stared at me in disbelief at my answer.
I began hearing music and loud footsteps coming around the corner and smiled, telling the two strangers to sit tight for a moment and they'd understand.
From around the corner came my neighbor's station wagon. (The neighbor that doesn't exist in real life) He was driving really slowly carrying a trailer with a bunch of tools and whatnot. Then, behind the car, comes this massive, Hulkian giant, carrying large piles of wood and other building materials, soothed and entranced by the music that was playing from my neighbor’s car. I could see that, as he was coming closer, he’d begun shrinking a little. Since his rage was being pacified, he was losing a lot of the chemical reaction that made him grow (much like the Hulk.) My neighbor decided to use the last of whatever juice the giant had to help fix the damage that was done to our property.
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Dude I just read that Dream and it's seriously Awesome
Too bad my Dream Recall Suxxx soooo badly too lately. I tried smoking Calea Extract 10X (same as your's) joints, made a cup of bitter tea+ Smoked a Joint. I tried ingesting it in the morning, some 30 minutes prior to sleep and immediately before falling asleep, but since my Dream Recall is so Terrible lately I cannot recall the Calea having any effect on me. Just waking up knowing my dreams were WEIRD but not knowing WHAT exactly I dreamt that was so weird.

So for this wacky dream you had, what did you do? Did you smoke it in a Joint? Through a Pipe or Bong? Did you use Capsules? Or did you drink a Calea Tea? (Lovely taste dontcha think? ) How much MiliGrams did you ingest? And How much time Prior to sleep did you ingest the Calea Extract 10X?

Please tell me cuz I haven't yet had any recordable results: Only now my sleep/wake cycle is almost completely Healthy and normal again ( I had BAD Insomnia fr well over 8 months ) So soon, when my Dream Recall has improved again, I'll give Calea another try.

In the Meanwhile I occasionally smoke Calea Joints cuz I find it a very nice smoke and it's really relaxing. Good for pre-meditation with a Cup of Tea.

So please, Oneironaut, tell me how, how much and when you ingested the Calea Extract.

This herb.. i wonder, is this illegal? ( except from in holland )
Cus I'm thinking of getting some as well. But since I'm stil living at my parents I don't want anything illegal delivered to my house.

Thanks