Thread: Singularity Experience, a professional iPhone app for Lucid Dreamers

I'll be honest with you, I just can't get this app to work for me at all. I'm not using a wristband, just the mattress mode. I never wake up to any sounds throughout the night. Is there any way someone can tell me how I could improve my chances with this app?

Originally Posted by Rostum

I'll be honest with you, I just can't get this app to work for me at all. I'm not using a wristband, just the mattress mode. I never wake up to any sounds throughout the night. Is there any way someone can tell me how I could improve my chances with this app?

Currently the app plays the reminder at the very start of REM. You can delay the reminder to be played a bit later. I cannot recall the early REM dream episodes during normal dreams.

You can analyze your sleep data with this worksheet:

http://luciddreamingapp.com/appdata/...worksheet.xlsx

Here's more information on how to email yourself the data for data analysis:

My Data - Lucid Dreaming App » Lucid Dreaming App


The first thing that you need to confirm is whether or not the app did play a reminder. This would be shown as a large spike on the graphs. If there are no spikes, the app did not find a time to play a reminder. Then you can take a look at your sleep depth graph. Your REM would be happening almost at the exact middle between the sleep depth peaks. Using this information, you can set a custom delay for the reminder to be played closer to your REM awakening.

Originally Posted by tommo

But, have you updated the app? In version 1.2 you can set your own music as reminders, so you can choose really loud reminders to wake you up.
It definitely does work, you probably just need to figure out how loud you need it to wake you up.

Sorry I had both threads open in different tabs and didn't realise I was on the wrong one. Thanks, I'll look in to making louder customised sounds.

Originally Posted by Ev

Currently the app plays the reminder at the very start of REM. You can delay the reminder to be played a bit later. I cannot recall the early REM dream episodes during normal dreams.

The first thing that you need to confirm is whether or not the app did play a reminder. This would be shown as a large spike on the graphs. If there are no spikes, the app did not find a time to play a reminder. Then you can take a look at your sleep depth graph. Your REM would be happening almost at the exact middle between the sleep depth peaks. Using this information, you can set a custom delay for the reminder to be played closer to your REM awakening.

Thanks for the reply. All of this is a lot of stuff to take in, but even after reading that link I am still confused. All I can find is this graph, which all recordings seem to look like other than ones that have failed:



I am certain I have the most up to date version of the app. At least, there doesn't seem to be any notifcations for an update.

Originally Posted by Rostum

Sorry I had both threads open in different tabs and didn't realise I was on the wrong one. Thanks, I'll look in to making louder customised sounds.



Thanks for the reply. All of this is a lot of stuff to take in, but even after reading that link I am still confused. All I can find is this graph, which all recordings seem to look like other than ones that have failed:



I am certain I have the most up to date version of the app. At least, there doesn't seem to be any notifcations for an update.

This is the graph version 1.1 in version 1.2 I introduced the smoother color coded graphs like the ones on the website ( see screenshot below). Your graph looks very good, the yellow line is the depth of sleep, which will correspond to deep sleep on the new graph. By looking at the yellow line and the gray line, you can see (I hope) that your sleep depth peaks occur at 90 minute intervals more or less for sleep cycles #3,4,5 and 6. In between the sleep depth peaks is your REM sleep.
This graph is not the most user friendly, the new one is much better. I recommend you to keep using the app, this way you would be able to view all this data with new graphs when the update comes out.

Originally Posted by Rostum

I'll be honest with you, I just can't get this app to work for me at all. I'm not using a wristband, just the mattress mode. I never wake up to any sounds throughout the night. Is there any way someone can tell me how I could improve my chances with this app?

Currently the app plays the reminder at the very start of REM. You can delay the reminder to be played a bit later. I cannot recall the early REM dream episodes during normal dreams.

You can analyze your sleep data with this worksheet:

http://luciddreamingapp.com/appdata/...worksheet.xlsx

Here's more information on how to email yourself the data for data analysis:

My Data - Lucid Dreaming App » Lucid Dreaming App


The first thing that you need to confirm is whether or not the app did play a reminder. This would be shown as a large spike on the graphs. If there are no spikes, the app did not find a time to play a reminder. Then you can take a look at your sleep depth graph. Your REM would be happening almost at the exact middle between the sleep depth peaks. Using this information, you can set a custom delay for the reminder to be played closer to your REM awakening.

Ok, I tried the app last night with every reminder set to 0 minutes delay to test whether it really does play at the very start of REM.

You were 100% correct lol
I only woke up twice, but had to check whether the reminders and alarms were actually played and I also ended up sleeping for 10 and a half hours

I think I'll set all the reminders and alarms to delay for even longer than I had it before, maybe 4 minutes instead of 1 or 2.