Do You Download Music?

**DreamCoil** · 11-11-2003 08:31 AM

Just wondering if any of you guys use file sharing programs and what you think about them. Personaly because I listen to metal and stuff, some bands I can't find there CD's so I download the music, but mostly I only use Kazaa like a preview thing, like I download one song, see If I like it, then buy the CD.
Personaly though I would pay a small fee to download a file because really, buying an album for maybe 1 or 2 songs that you like while the rest is shit is a bit obsurd, plus I have to travel a long way in order to find CD's I want. So it's not out of disrespect for the artist really, it's out of laziness.
Thoughts?

**Serinanth** · 11-11-2003 09:20 AM

Yeah thats the problem, alot of music is teh suck these days... and only one or two songs if any are actually worth listening to on the album *coughst.angercough*

I listen to alota techno trance stuff thats hard to find, myself. I dont trust file swapping software anymore, even when you use ip masking stuff thats available now, I have a friend that has every song known to man basically so I dont need to download anything =)

**Silver Sphere** · 11-11-2003 09:36 AM

"I Buy CD's, And Download Files"

Until I become a millionaire I'll do both to taste everything possible. DirectConnect serves my needs right now; for music that I want to spend any amount of time listening to Kazaa just doesn't cut it for selection.

I'm listening to a burned cd right now actually: Klaus Schulze - "Irrlicht". Going on first impression, this is actually pretty worthwhile.

**A Lost Soul** · 11-11-2003 11:02 AM

I chose 'File Whore', but I will actually get off my file-downloading ass and buy an album if I think it deserves my $30. Being that you can't return a CD you bought, you're stuck paying too much money for a product you're unsure of.

My dad and I had this conversation yesterday. He hates me downloading music because he considers it 'stealing'. But, in my defense, I do not redistribute it in any way (I'm not even sharing any files on Kazaa). The music is for my own listening pleasure and to me it's no different than recording a song off the radio, like we use to do in the 80s. If I like the music enough, and if I feel that the band deserves my money, I will go out and buy their CD. I do NOT like knowing there is a middle man between my dollars and the band, though. That bugs me to no end. They don't deserve any percentage of my money! They don't do anything. Grr. Anyway, I will admit that I have a lot of mp3s of bands whose CDs I don't own. Most of the time it's because I've downloaded the rest of the CD and it sucked.

Oh, and another thing: a lot of the music I download isn't even American, so how the heck am I supposed to buy that? I would love to buy Boa's stuff, but I haven't been able to find it in any music stores around here. Not to mention, try finding music by Kondo Koji and Uematsu Nobuo without ordering it online. O_o

**A Lost Soul** · 11-11-2003 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Silver Sphere
\"I Buy CD's, And Download Files\"

Until I become a millionaire I'll do both to taste everything possible. DirectConnect serves my needs right now; for music that I want to spend any amount of time listening to Kazaa just doesn't cut it for selection.

I'm listening to a burned cd right now actually: Klaus Schuzle - \"Irrlicht\". Going on first impression, this is actually pretty worthwhile.

Hmmm... DirectConnect? PM me and tell me more about this DirectConnect.

**Seeker** · 11-11-2003 01:42 PM

I buy them for 3 reasons.
1) I have a slow sucky dial up connection
2) I don't like to see artist starve
3) Most of what I like can be found in the discount bin

**A Lost Soul** · 11-11-2003 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Seeker

2) I don't like to see artist starve

Just to stir up some crap here, I should bring to your attention the THIRD mansion that Lars Ulrich bought within the past year. Somehow I don't think the musicians are starving. True, everyone has to start somewhere and I respect and support that, but it's only the rich ones that are bitching about filesharing.

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 04:53 PM

I dunno, I killed kazaa because they were like hunting people down and crap. but most of the metal I want can't be found in stores here, (damn this hic-ass state) but I now know of a nice place in Hot Springs that has a bunch of good stuff...but anyway, most metal albums I buy I like every song on them anyway so I just go ahead and buy them.

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 04:54 PM

Originally posted by A Lost Soul+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(A Lost Soul)</div>

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2) I don't like to see artist starve

Just to stir up some crap here, I should bring to your attention the THIRD mansion that Lars Ulrich bought within the past year. Somehow I don't think the musicians are starving. True, everyone has to start somewhere and I respect and support that, but it's only the rich ones that are bitching about filesharing.[/b]

true!

**Seeker** · 11-11-2003 04:54 PM

Hi Lost Soul,

How's the foot?
Back to topic. It isn't the artists so much as the record companies that are yelling the loudest. They get the biggest cut and are hurt the most. They also stir up the artists as being the victim when they are the biggest victim. But nobody likes the record companies or cares if their profits are cut into.

If someone could set up a download service that would allow the artists to sell directly to the consumer, and cutting out the record company, you could download a CD for about $7 and the artist would make more money.

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 04:59 PM

now that's a good idea...*nod*

**A Lost Soul** · 11-11-2003 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Seeker
Hi Lost Soul,

How's the foot?
Back to topic. It isn't the artists so much as the record companies that are yelling the loudest. They get the biggest cut and are hurt the most. They also stir up the artists as being the victim when they are the biggest victim. But nobody likes the record companies or cares if their profits are cut into.

If someone could set up a download service that would allow the artists to sell directly to the consumer, and cutting out the record company, you could download a CD for about $7 and the artist would make more money.

YES! See, that's brilliant! Why hasn't anyone done it yet? I would so support something like that, especially if I knew that my hard-earned money was going to support something that I thought was worthwhile.

p.s. If you'll pardon my language for a moment: my foot FUCKING HURTS LIKE A FUCKING MOTHERFUCKER!! But thanks for asking.

**Seeker** · 11-11-2003 05:04 PM

I feel your pain. How far does the cast go?
I can remember working on mine with a clothes hanger after a couple of weeks because it itched so bad!

**A Lost Soul** · 11-11-2003 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Seeker
I feel your pain. How far does the cast go?
I can remember working on mine with a clothes hanger after a couple of weeks because it itched so bad!

It's actually not a cast. It's this weird moon-boot thing with lots of padding and velcro. I can take it off, but it's a real pain to get back on again (pun fully intended).

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 05:13 PM

what pun is that?

**Seeker** · 11-11-2003 05:14 PM

They will cast it when the swelling goes down, won't they?

**A Lost Soul** · 11-11-2003 05:27 PM

Originally posted by Seeker
They will cast it when the swelling goes down, won't they?

Heh. Nope. I'm going to scan in my X-Ray and put it up in a minute. We can move the conversation there so we don't bog down the topic... which should be some of us bitching about record companies bending us over the proverbial table and some of us defending them! Blah!

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 05:42 PM

*waving arms* eh..where is the pun...I didn't see one...eh..nevermind..

**Seeker** · 11-11-2003 05:44 PM

Nevermind because you don't care anymore?
Or nevermind because it hurts to put a boot on a broken foot?

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 05:54 PM

nevermind because...wait..what was the pun I still don't get it..

**Silver Sphere** · 11-11-2003 09:06 PM

Originally posted by Seeker

If someone could set up a download service that would allow the artists to sell directly to the consumer, and cutting out the record company, you could download a CD for about $7 and the artist would make more money.

Ick - if I'm paying money I want a tangible object. Good music on a cd with case and booklet is worth ten or fifteen bucks to me, a bunch of 128 or 192k mp3s are worth pretty much nothing.

IMO, of course. I've never felt any guilt about downloading files. And the "support the artist" schtick pretty much goes right out the window if you're downloading out-of-print albums, demos, and Beethoven, now doesn't it? Or if you're buying used albums, for that matter, which I often do.

I still get music off of Kazaa here and there in spite of the "crackdown". Who knows, maybe by 2157 they'll get around to prosecuting me.

**nerve** · 11-11-2003 09:09 PM

**Mortalis** · 11-11-2003 10:54 PM

It is tough to get the boot on and off, it hurts to get the boot on and off, pain to get it on and off could mean either, voila pun. I do download music but I think that I have about 10 songs in my library of songs and I own the CDs for half of them..Also, I dunno why everyone uses Kazaa, I use WinMX and love it

**A Lost Soul** · 11-12-2003 02:27 AM

I didn't like WinMX very much. I tried it for about a week and I found that it wasn't very user-friendly (i.e. not for dumb people like me). Then again, one week really isn't a fair amount of time. *shrug* I might try it again, being that I have all this free time on my hands suddenly.