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      ^^^

      You are exactly on point! This man know's his material. Appreciate that help, stay on this thread and you can help me out with other people's questions too.

      Much appreciation High Hunter.

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      Jorge is a pickup artist (pua for short). Though I'm not sure whose methods he follows. The pickup artist community (Yes, there's an underground community for pua's) is an eventful one. Mostly comprised of reformed geeks/losers/nerds who've learned from mPua's (master pickup artists) how to bed any women they desire. For anyone interested in jumping into this game, I suggest you google the "Mystery Method" and read Neil Strauss's book "The Game".
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      Thanks for your input Jeff, "The Game" is a good read, but in my opinion that's about it. It doesn't really teach you any material to learn..you get me? I saw the whole book as almost a story. As for the Mystery Method, I know his book, but I've never read it. Any other books, that you found helpful?

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      That's the only one I've read. In addition to that, his reality show on Vh1 provides useful information. You're right about "The Game" being a story...but within the story lies lessons and techniques anyone can use.

      Btw, how many points do you have? What's your score? And when did you start playing the game?
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      I have 20 billion points! I used a cheat code though..you?

      Actually Mystery's show is completely BS, I believe it's all fake. TV is so percise on what is allowed on national television and there are so many strange things that are in that show.

      Another negative about the show is that Mystery is using the same old material he's came up with 5 years ago. From that show it looks like he hasn't improved his material whatsoever. There's so much more new information that are more powerful than his. The only thing I see in his shows (which is still old info) is his openers he makes his students use.

      " Can I ask your opinion? " "What do you girls think...." <---Same old information from years ago.


      I can't believe he doesn't have more new and better information it dissapoints me. Mystery is great, no doubt. But he is still using his same old techniques, I wish he'd come up with some new stuff.

      Either way, he's a great pick up artist.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jorge View Post
      I have 20 billion points! I used a cheat code though..you?
      I assume the art of picking up women to the underground pua community was still being referred to as a "game" considering the technology, techniques, and tactics being used, are adjusted and refined on a regular basis. Therefore a point equivocates to "one" woman you have bedded. In order to be discreet pua's refer to it as a "point system" instead of being outwardly blunt which could be offensive to some. I assumed you knew this...


      Quote Originally Posted by Jorge View Post
      Actually Mystery's show is completely BS, I believe it's all fake. TV is so percise on what is allowed on national television and there are so many strange things that are in that show.

      Another negative about the show is that Mystery is using the same old material he's came up with 5 years ago. From that show it looks like he hasn't improved his material whatsoever. There's so much more new information that are more powerful than his. The only thing I see in his shows (which is still old info) is his openers he makes his students use.

      " Can I ask your opinion? " "What do you girls think...." <---Same old information from years ago.


      I can't believe he doesn't have more new and better information it dissapoints me. Mystery is great, no doubt. But he is still using his same old techniques, I wish he'd come up with some new stuff.

      Either way, he's a great pick up artist.
      I think a man whose bedded over 1,000 women has a lot of useful information to still give. If it ain't broke why fix it? Mystery's methods DO work. Simple duplication is the key. He teaches losers how to do what he does and it works. They still get the girls at the end of the day so why try and change a system that's working pretty damn good already? Besides, Mystery holds workshops which losers pay handsomely to attend...THAT is where he shelves out new diamonds and gems. It would be stupid to give the material out that people pay well into the thousands for over the television for free. He created a simple system to pickup and bed women that works nearly 100&#37; of the time...that doesn't need fixing. Revamping the system isn't necessary but changing up openers etc. are needed every so often (which he does). With that being said, I'm more of a Style's fan myself. He combines things he personally learned from the worlds greatest mPua's into what he does.
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      Cool opinion.

      I see mystery as trying to make copys of himself, where I believe to have that person keep his same good traits and improve his not good traits to become a natural in the game.


      Actually what you said about the pua community referring to the point system as in bedding how many girls you have is not 100&#37; true. I am apart of another great forums, that I think you'd like, but that's not the point. We actually have a Point system but doesn't involve with how many woman you've bedded.

      It's a system that is a push and pull technique, when a girl does something good for you, you can reward her by giving her points. For example, " Hey you opened the door for me, you just got 5 points! " Playfully of course and you can tell her that once she gets a certain amount of points...she can redeem a prize. A kiss, hug, etc..

      It's a pretty good technique actually, put's you in the leading position and builds attraction if done right. And also she can lose points, if she does something you don't like, etc..

      All this done in a fun, playfull way. So take note of that one guys, it's pretty powerful.
      Last edited by Jorge; 11-19-2008 at 10:04 AM.

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