Thread: ~ * Ask me about Picking Up Women * ~

Wow I didn't even notice how many replies there were! Ok let's get started:

Ranma187: You are completely right! Demonstrating High Value is just that " demonstrating " but what I want to teach is, yes first men "Act" High value, but only for them to " Become " a high value male in the process. You see, to be truly honest with you it's "Not" all about bedding woman. There's so many things we teach that are dedicated to " Improve " the average joe. For example: have you ever had a friend that was shy, not sociable, dresses dirty etc? We want to teach men how to better ' themselves. ' I absolutely do not want all guys to lie there way into bed with girls no way that's low. I want to help men become something they've always dreamed to be...
A Real Man.

have a good one bro.

P.S: I agree with you about Mystery

Magical Mike:

Please dont think I am a freak.

No way will I ever consider you or anybody a freak, I know where you are coming from 100% Don't consider yourself a freak dude.

As for your problem, I can tell you right now you have a disease it's called "Orbiter" and that's when a guy worships a Girl. Now you may not worship her, but you know what I am talking about. You have oneitus you can't stop thinking about this one girl, how beautiful she is, being with her, dreaming about her, she's constantly on your mind and you really, really want her. But I do have some news you may not want to hear, if you do want this girl, your going to need to drop her at the moment.

Yeah you heard me right dude, and let me tell you why.

1. She doesn't respond to your messages, comments.
2. She's making excuses why she's not responding to you.

Now that isn't the only reason why I want you to drop her, right now bro you are displaying low value. She is living this hectic life as a model, she's probably busy doing a ton of things taking pictures, going places blah blah blah. Then here you are sending her messages:

Why don't you want to talk to me? <--Low Value

Sending messages to her even though she doesn't reply back <-- Low Value


Now I'm not telling you this to bum you out, but quite the opposite actually. I want you to notice what your doing that isn't working, and do The Opposite and get success.

Now how do you get success?

Improving yourself beyond what you thought possible..

Right now you are calling girls, they don't want to talk..
Sending messages and there not replying, yet you still send more..
Constantly thinking of girls that are acting un-interested...

hm..what's the opposite?

Lots of girls calling you but you don't want to talk with them at the moment..
Girls sending you messages and you can't reply to them all..
Girls constantly thinking of you, but you possibly can't give attention to all of them and they think your un-interested...

My point is that anything can be reversed if you truly want it, and put all your effort into changing yourself for the better. Not changing ' who you are ' but Making a better
" You. "

Are you willing to change MM?

P.S: Me and Ranman have similar advice:

stop obsessing over her and find another girl. let her go. period.

AirRick: I definately agree with you it is a double-edge sword, you can use it for good and you can use it for evil.


And for everyone else, I agree with you saying manipulation is wrong, I agree. I'm not teaching manipulation, the Alpha Mindset is a good one to follow for attracing girls. But there are more that are advance and are easy to follow. I do highly recommend the free e-book that's linked in my sig if you want more information on the subject. Only cost an e-mail, if not it's all good I'll always be here.

AirRick, I like the way you explain the majority of material on this subject, stick around we could team-up. Oh and I'd like for you to check what I'm offering in my sig, check that out and let me know your opinion you'd be surprised.


Have a good one.

Xaqaria

wow dude you seem upset, I can understand where your coming from no doubt. Ok let me ask you..

How can you keep a LTR Strong and last a long time with minimum argues?

It's a serious question.

Originally Posted by Jorge

I absolutely do not want all guys to lie there way into bed with girls no way that's low.

But sometimes I just can't help it.

Every guy goes through these stages, and not in any certain order. ~ Sometimes they want to be promiscuous, and sometimes they want to settle down with someone they can see themselves going steady with.

Don't think that you have to try to make pick-up seem ethical, Jorge. I think such a rebuttal would only seem pick-up seem MORE mischievous in every way.

Your right AirRick, it's somewhat difficult to try and share this info when the majority of people already view it as just that.

woohoo Thanks Jorge!
really thanks for the help I really apriciate it alot!

Originally Posted by Jorge

Xaqaria

wow dude you seem upset, I can understand where your coming from no doubt. Ok let me ask you..

How can you keep a LTR Strong and last a long time with minimum argues?

It's a serious question.

Oh I'm not upset. Stuff on this forum doesn't really effect me that much. I'm perfectly fine with you giving your advice, but when you put yourself and your ideas out here so openly and singlemindedly, you have to be ready for the opinions that people form about you because of it.

Every successful long term relationship I've ever encountered was based on mutual trust and equality in the relationship. When you do something for a person that you are with and love, you do it because it will make them happy; not so that you can get something out of it too. In a trusting relationship, you don't have to worry about getting yours, because you can trust that your partner is as interested in your happiness as you are in theirs. You don't need to worry about buying them gifts just because you think thats what you are obligated to do, you buy them things when thats what you want to do and don't need to worry about any formula designed to keep your status.

In a trusting relationship, you don't have to worry about your partner going out by themself and cheating on you because you trust them and know that if they wanted something else, they wouldn't be with you. You shouldn't need to fund their time without you, but you also shouldn't worry about letting your partner borrow your car or money or whatever because you know there will be a time when you need something from them and they will be willing to give to you. It's all about equal give and take.

In a trusting relationship, no one talks to members of the opposite sex to create jealousy, you talk to whoever you want because there is nothing wrong with interacting with other people and you should be trusted to not do anything that you know you shouldn't. Believe it or not, men and women can interact without the pretext of sex. It shouldn't take balls to interact with members of the opposite sex in front of your partner because a natural confidence comes when you and your partner trust each other and act according to what you both know are comfortable and normal ways to behave in a public setting.

The bottom line is: no one person rules a relationship. The idea that a man is in charge is narrow minded, out-dated and ridiculous. Any relationship that is built on a hierarchy of power is a relationship built on domineering control, deceit, and force and is not a successful relationship. Once you find someone you truly want to be with for a long time, and not simply because you think its the hottest girl you can get, you will realize that any feelings of control will go out the window. A successful relationship acts as one unit in which both pieces are constantly and intuitively tuned to what is best for the other and the relationship as a whole.

I don't need any tricks to know any of this, and I don't need to study method. I know what I know through direct experience of what works and what doesn't.

I have no problem with anything you might want to say about picking up women. Social interaction between single men and women is a game even if some people don't want to admit it. Everyone plays that game for their own reasons and according to their own skill, and I'm perfectly fine with passing out a few tricks to help other's chances of getting noticed. Women play this game to the exact same extent as men.

Once you get past picking someone up and form a real relationship, however, if you think any technique is going to help you, you are just fooling yourself. If you don't just trust each other and behave in the way that is best for both of you, then your relationship is doomed to fail.

Edit: I realize I didn't touch on the topic of argument.

No one who is serious about being in a long term relationship should worry about avoiding argument. Disagreement is natural and arguments are going to happen whether you want them to or not. What you should do is make sure you enter into any disagreement with respect for the person you are with and try to resolve the issue as two adults. As long as niether of you has the assumption that you 'know better' or are in charge but rather that there is just a differing of opinions, then a healthy resolution will be reached each and every time.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

If your goal is to get laid, this stuff might be for you, but I urge anyone here to ignore that Long term relationship bullshit. No successful lasting relationship is built around dominating, controlling, or manipulative tactics. The best you will ever achieve is a relationship with a woman who has been tricked into staying with you and will eventually regret it and learn to hate you.

Interesting. I see the pick up community as just "leveling the playing field". Especially when you have a set of hired guns. Sometimes...

"Don't I know you from somewhere?"

"Come here often?"

"What's your sign?"

and my personal favorite...

"What's your name"

...Just don't cut it.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Interesting. I see the pick up community as just "leveling the playing field". Especially when you have a set of hired guns. Sometimes...

"Don't I know you from somewhere?"

"Come here often?"

"What's your sign?"

and my personal favorite...

"What's your name"

...Just don't cut it.

I don't see how any of what you said has anything to do with my post. I was talking about long term relationships, not picking up women. And honestly, if the best you could do before you started studying these methods was "come here often?" and "Whats your sign?" then you need a lot more help than any of this could offer you.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I don't see how any of what you said has anything to do with my post. I was talking about long term relationships, not picking up women. And honestly, if the best you could do before you started studying these methods was "come here often?" and "Whats your sign?" then you need a lot more help than any of this could offer you.

My post was satirical, meant to be taken lightly. Quite similar to your posts within this thread.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

My post was satirical, meant to be taken lightly. Quite similar to your posts within this thread.

I guess we misunderstood each other then. Nothing I've said in this thread was intended to be a joke or satirical, although everything I say should be taken lightly.

Xaqario:

I respect your input thanks.

Article on Confidence:

Even the best of us could use a good boost in confidence, because confidence is the quality in men that women find attractive far above any other. The more confidence that you display, the more women you will get, and it's as simple as that. I believe that I have developed the most effective and easiest confidence building technique that you will ever learn. Are you ready to go into confidence overdrive?

We have all heard of psychologist and support groups telling people that they must express their feelings by letting them out, because keeping your feelings to yourself, in other words "bottled up", will cause them to build up and grow. This works under the same principles. However, your goal will be to let your feelings build up on purpose by forcing yourself to keep your experiences "bottled up". Let me explain...

Whenever you tell someone about your conquests with women by saying something along the lines of "Remember that girl who gave me her number at the bar last week? I slept with her last night" you are subconsciously lowering the importance of the particular event in your mind. The act of having to "prove yourself" to other people by making your prowess known is actually a display of insecurity, and in the back of our minds we all know that to be true.

If you NEVER tell anyone about your personal life, you will notice that your self confidence will shoot through the roof! This works as a continuous cycle of confidence building because of the "building up" factor, which will continue to raise your confidence level rapidly as long as you always keep everything to yourself. So if you go on a trip to the Bahamas and end up getting with a super model or movie star, keep your mouth shut. The rewards are much better than being able to tell a good story to your friends.

You should start by developing a state of mind in which you could care less about other people knowing your business. You know where you've been and what you've done, and that is all that matters. Once you have achieved this you will no longer need to "prove yourself" to anyone, because they will think highly of you simply because of the confidence you display.

Ok, so I just need to let go of this girl?
I will never see her agian?
Or let go of her, then meet her when I move back right?

I'm sorry, but 160,000 years of human evolution, and you think match making can be taught? Love is a natural phenomena, and something successful to you may not be for another.

Sure, many girls like confident guys, and of course the opposite exists as well; there are many girls who like shy guys just as much.
This concept applies to many things.

I don't mean to trash advice you give, but please allow people the freedom to be themselves without having you say "women like this...", so you should follow suit.

Think for yourselves, and life will go where you want it to.

there are many girls who like shy guys just as much.

Not hot girls..

Originally Posted by magical mike

Not hot girls..

Not true. In the past i've gotten laid by being shy. Older women usually go for this type of guy. Some women fantasize about showing a guy "the ropes". You don't have to do much "gaming" with these types of women. Just get to know them and give them an opportunity to isolate you. Let them pick YOU up. all you have to do is be a gentleman with an innocent shyness about you. Listen and pay attention to what she says. When she starts grabbing you and touching, make an excuse to go outside with her.

cool I respect your views, but here's the laydown in my opinion:


The majority of beautiful looking girls, intimidate most guys which causes guys to not approach, not make small talk, and not even try to learn about a girl which could be his next wife.

My point is to just better yourselves, I'm not really teaching you lines. I'm teaching you concepts to follow to make you a better 'you.'

Yeah you can search for your true love, but there's a good chance you won't find them if your too shy too approach, or have a decent convo.

Not true. In the past i've gotten laid by being shy.

I was just joking
I am not looking to get laid anyways

Is it ok for me to slip my thumb into a girl's butthole on our first date without asking first? Or would that be bad manners?

Here is a great kino tip... for those that don't know, simply put kino means the art of flirting by touch, for more in-depth information on kino do a search on it at this site and you'll find a few good articles. On with the tip : Whenever you are with a girl and her hair is falling in her face, gently use your index finger to "pull" the hair back and place it behind her ear. When you do this rub your finger down behind her ear all the way down to her ear lobe. Girls respond very well to this and it seems to have a comforting/soothing effect on them... they love it. You can do this as often as you like and once a particular girl becomes accustomed to you doing it to them they will even look forward to you doing it. As an added bonus you can say something nice to them or give them a good compliment while you do it, which will magnify the effect.

Hey, Jorge

I find That setting up dates, using SMS, and phone can be a bit of a headache. I have a full time job, and plenty of other hobbies So day 2's aren't really my style. Do you have any advice for samedays that I meet at a bar? How would you deal with obstacles?

Intresting- ive briefly skimmed through this, and Jorge seemed to know some of his stuff. I studied a bit of Psychology, mainly to do with social dynamics, alongside shitloads of books regarding Body language. Mainly to do with people of power. (for instance, Presidents, figures of authority and WOMEN in some cases Etc)

nitsuJ, I think its acceptable that you do so, providing that you weigh out the pros and cons of your actions. For instance if you think that you'll be able to pull that off without any resistance, then so be it. It should be a gut feeling, not an objective. As for if you're both getting turned on, Just do what you do when you're normally turned on. Dont make it a goal to do 'that' (even though i find it utterly disgusting. but hey, People have different tastes.)

I'm sorry, but 160,000 years of human evolution, and you think match making can be taught? Love is a natural phenomena, and something successful to you may not be for another.

Im sorry too, but who wouldve thought that during those times, the vibrations from the diaphragm made by primates would evolve into something called Communication.

Be a bit more open minded next time.

-Envy

Edit by ClouD: No personal insults.

What do you say when a girl on myspace says "Your hot"
Tell me for
-A girl you dont like
-A girl you might like
-A girl you do like

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

Is it ok for me to slip my thumb into a girl's butthole on our first date without asking first? Or would that be bad manners?

I will laugh at this so you won't feel so stupid

.....lol