I've been on paragon project for a while and my success with women has improved. I've been in seduction for a long time and the Crash Course, which you can find a link to in Jorges signature, is very impressive.
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I've been on paragon project for a while and my success with women has improved. I've been in seduction for a long time and the Crash Course, which you can find a link to in Jorges signature, is very impressive.
Okay, enough of both of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dj-Dan
First off, fuck you Jorge for coming in here and then feeding us your advertising bullshit.
"Oh, if you like what I'm saying, go to my failure of an advertisment in my signature."
And then you got some fucking loser lurker in here that has like, 3 posts, trying to tell us how good your book is and how great it's made his life.
You're a fucking tool, Jorge. I hope you know that.
I said, if you want more info check my link. That's it, djdan is apart of the forums I am with and he was telling you his honest opinion. All my advice is legit, and I did learn it from that free book in my link.
So get out of here. I don't want you here you and your buddy zelda.
It's basically an invitation to click on your stupid advert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jorge
And, if you're going to try to insult me via my avatar and signature, at least get the character right, you tool.
lol
i wonder y a lot of guys r upset about this thread??
tehe.
I'd be more upset about this thread if i was a woman tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Temperamental
But would you be upset if this was a thread for women on how to pick up men?
Classic AFC behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Temperamental
Because Jorge comes out here looking like mister pimp, talking all this shit about how he can make any guy pick up any girl, which isn't true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Temperamental
Then, he tries to advert some gay fucking book.
That's why it's annoying.
I looked over the link, and it looks like stuff I've been doing all the time. I guess I should kick myself and stop being so love-shy. (Having anxiety disorder doesn't help) Thanks for helping me realize this, and those tips on actually asking women out help too! :D
I've only asked 2 out in my life and that was 4 years ago (both), after that i've not been in the mood to go asking them out, especially now...i mainly just see them as sex now. I can't find one i wanna not have sex with all the time, it's all sex, sex, sex. I role play in my head every single day (also prefer that over porn for some reason). I'm not so much nervous now, i just don't wanna do anything.
Great suttsman! I'm glad you looked at my link, with that information would you say it's great quality? Would you want to know anything else to help you with your Inner Self? ( ex. Confidence, approach, over-analyzing... )Quote:
Originally Posted by suttsman
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Originally Posted by AmazeO XD
I never said a guy can pick up any women, that's impossible. I'll tell you right now it's impossible regardless of how good you are at attracting women. I reffered them to my link, if they wanted more information they can check it out.
Oh, and it's a gay book? LOL Your hilarious, your honestly a funny guy! You remind me of this smilie ---> :banana: <--- I'm sure you havn't even downloaded the book or even read the excerpt. Good, I don't want you to download it. Don't even click my link,and get out of my thread if it's annoying. ;) :clap:
Excuse me........' Link ' you average frustrated chump. :bslap:Quote:
Originally Posted by suttsman
So once again, if this thread is so annoying...GET OUT!
lol. see my which" category are you thread". I'm going to explain a certain reason why i left the seduction community. A lot of the knowledge taught there that actually works is common sense stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryoDragoon
They boast about being free from the social matrix while unwittingly becoming a social matrix in and of themselves. A lot of their stuff is based on "fear". they preach "if you do this that and the other thing you'll never get laid. And if you never get laid you are a LOSER for the rest of your life. so don't screw it up. If you slouch once in a bar you're gonna fuck up. If you are seen with your hands in your pockets, no one will like you." or "your an AFC. Don't hang around family to much because it's so AFC. Don't play video games EVER because it's AFC. If you listen to classical music in front of a SHB she'll think your an AFC." but the only real advice you get you have to pay for.
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Originally Posted by Jorge
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I believe any man can pick-up women
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I never said a guy can pick up any women.
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I believe any man can pick-up women.
Oh. I didn't notice that.Quote:
Originally Posted by suttsman
Mah bad!!!~
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You are unable to telle the difference. Between the two statements?
" I believe any man can pick up women "
Any guy can pick up a girl, period.
" I never said a guy can pickup any women "
Any women as in the sense Any Women he desires. It's not possible, to for the best PUA in the world to pickup all the women he wants. That's what I said.
Once again read it slowly.
Any guy can pickup...a woman.
But that same guy can't pick up Any Specific Woman he wants Anytime. That's what I said. You read it wrong.
Read it slowly and think about what you read.
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Originally Posted by ranma187
I don't believe it's common sense, or at least not to everybody. We all have our each strengths and weaknesses. Some just have a lot of weaknesses. It may be common sense to you, but complete new perspective on your average afc.
Have you checked out the book in my link? I believe it contradicts your theory on free stuff telling you your a loser. TIC are all dedicated to helping men improve. You will be amazed at how much information that covers for free. I gurantee that.
I wasn't saying every PUA is like that but many are. I think to be good with women one has to build confidence and generally learn to like themselves. I'm not talking about huge ego. I mean just being comfortable with who you are and working on it so you vibe the kind of energy that people , especially women, are drawn to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jorge
Well, not that I know anything about this ;)...but I'd like to share a few tips that have helped me greatly.
First of all, NEVER approach a woman with a hesitant attitude. Before making contact, empty your mind...and firmly tell yourself that you are the man. Think of all the shit you have went through in your life, be proud of yourself, especially for what you are about to do.
(Women can smell your fear and insecurities like a prowling tiger).
With that confidence radiating from you, you will no longer need to think about pick-up lines, seducing routines or patterns, etc. Stay calm, take deep breaths, and stay focused. For once, forget about what you look like, how you act, or what to say. Remember...it's not WHAT you say...it's HOW you say it! Place your consciousness outside yourself, concentrate on her reactions, moods, facial expressions, body language. Stay comfortable and confident, make small talk and make her laugh anytime you can. BE YOURSELF.
If the woman is not interested, don't worry about it. There are many reasons why she could not be interested, it does not mean that you are a loser. Don't take it personally. If anything, you are now twice the man you were, because you approached her.
(There's a good chance she will respect you for approaching her. She might even have feelings for you now, yet other reasons are keeping her away. It's not your fault).
Also, if that girl rejected you, think of it this way: She was clearly not the one. She could have prevented you from meeting another, better woman!
So if she does, smile at her and walk away. Don't be needy, there are way more opportunities out there. It just was not meant to be.
By being yourself, you will attract the woman that is good for you. (Or women that will be good you ;) ). Picking up girls became way too much of a complicated science. I say, the more fake seducing methods you use, the harder it will be for you. Just be yourself.
Good luck! Get lucky! :D
^^^
You are exactly on point! This man know's his material. Appreciate that help, stay on this thread and you can help me out with other people's questions too.
Much appreciation High Hunter.
Jorge is a pickup artist (pua for short). Though I'm not sure whose methods he follows. The pickup artist community (Yes, there's an underground community for pua's) is an eventful one. Mostly comprised of reformed geeks/losers/nerds who've learned from mPua's (master pickup artists) how to bed any women they desire. For anyone interested in jumping into this game, I suggest you google the "Mystery Method" and read Neil Strauss's book "The Game".
Thanks for your input Jeff, "The Game" is a good read, but in my opinion that's about it. It doesn't really teach you any material to learn..you get me? I saw the whole book as almost a story. As for the Mystery Method, I know his book, but I've never read it. Any other books, that you found helpful?
That's the only one I've read. In addition to that, his reality show on Vh1 provides useful information. You're right about "The Game" being a story...but within the story lies lessons and techniques anyone can use.
Btw, how many points do you have? What's your score? And when did you start playing the game?