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      Quote Originally Posted by neekos View Post
      Why are you so sure this is fake?

      Having listened to 100+ hours of Bashar stuff (most of which was free since it was shared.) I have to say that I can freely check out and confirm most of what Bashar says and it is unfailingly true in my experience. Unless my shadow self is hiding something from me, which I am entirely open to...

      Is it that they claim to be ET or that they are in our 'future'? Or simply because the message is channelled?

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      The guy charges hundreds of dollars an hour for a phone call with bashar. It is an obvious scam. People can "act" like anything they want these days. just watch star trek!
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      Quote Originally Posted by ranma187 View Post
      Is it me or does bashar sounds like he comes from Ireland?
      I thought the same thing... we must be channeling each other...
      Bollocks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      You call this crazy and then assert that there is no possible way for the universe to happen without some ubermensch behind it?
      Just like christians condemn prejudice against the black, but when asked about homosexuality...
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      Well for everyone who says that he charges hundreds of dollars for phone calls with him, I checked out the website I couldn't find any validity to the claims. They had downloadable free tapes and the only actual time i seen any mention of money was from the catalogs of books, videos, cd's and for tickets to his shows which were about $40 not $500. So I can't say with any certainty that this guy is actually out there to just scam people. That being said how is this any more of a scam than any other religion out there. Christianity makes some very extreme claims. And while They preach repent or else and condemn those who have different views, this guy at least preaches acceptance and tolerance. I honestly don't believe he is out there hurting anyone.

      That being said I still don't buy it, but if i was on a bus with only two spots left and I had to sit with either a christian or someone who believe in this stuff. I would chose the latter.

      Edit- here is the website for those who wish to look at it. http://bashar.org/HOMEMAIN.html
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      I haven't watched all of it, but omg a few times I saw him fighting the urge so hard to laugh.

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      People like this scam artist should have their balls stepped on with a steel toed boot.
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      Sounds like total bullshit, but the guy is pretty intelligent nonetheless, not easy to pull this off. Easy way to make good money I guess

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      Old stuff. John Edward offered channeling of 9/11 victims couple weeks after it happened.

      That's where the fucking Dollar is. Exploiting the helpless.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Korittke View Post
      That's where the fucking Dollar is. Exploiting the helpless.

      Yup, the almighty dollar is the God people worship, wether they realise it or not. Sad world we live in sometimes, but there are the pro's of money, along with its cons.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ThePhobiaViewed View Post
      I'm not gonna say that I believe he is channeling or that people should pay alot to see him but some of his ideas are actually pretty interesting.
      Indeed, I think everything he says is pretty interesting, but I find it hard to believe he's possessed by an alien :p

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      Uh no. I just watched the videos and it's just a giant collection of complete meaningless bullshit and no valuable content at all. The guy is a complete retard and failed high school actor.
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      lol theres a lady who lives near me who says shes channels a demon and right now she is loaded, she says copper drives evil demons away so her huge masion, walls, gates, earings, are all covered with copper. shes rich for just making shit up.
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      I didn't buy into it, but I only watched 3/4 of the first video. People also spend lots of money buying rap CDs, but the rappers aren't scam artists. To me, people are wasting their money thinking they are buying good music, but to them I don't know what I'm missing out on.


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      yes, Humans are really that stupid.....
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      Reviving this ancient thread to set things straight.

      Those who thinks Bashar is fake should evaluate thier slow thinking. What's the matter can't handle high speed information on your low cpu brains? LOL

      Seriously, Even if Bashar is fake what matters is the info that he "mostly" shares (or bieng paid by buying CDs DVDs,download,books, etc) that are truely very intelligent, enlightening (becoming more aware) and that is that you can't find here on physical planet earth. Even if you meditated for decades (like I did), I bet you can't come near close to that knowledge he shares. So why not educate yourselves, and be intelligent/aware by coming on this forum?

      BTW, if compared, there are so called gurus of self development, like antony robins etc, who charges a fortune and doesnt bring true change/shift/transformation--more awareness..

      The IDEA is, observe (aware) more before you talk/judge someone or someone like me will surely notice/observe how your low mental processes can handle. LOL!

      IF my post sounds insulting, apology for that, but I felt to hit you with a hammer, to wake up.


      And, oh to answer the question of the thread stater.. the answer is "YES", humans are that stupid "for bieng ignorant".
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      Quote Originally Posted by stateofbieng View Post
      Reviving this ancient thread to set things straight.

      Those who thinks Bashar is fake should evaluate thier slow thinking. What's the matter can't handle high speed information on your low cpu brains? LOL

      Seriously, Even if Bashar is fake what matters is the info that he "mostly" shares (or bieng paid by buying CDs DVDs,download,books, etc) that are truely very intelligent, enlightening (becoming more aware) and that is that you can't find here on physical planet earth. Even if you meditated for decades (like I did), I bet you can't come near close to that knowledge he shares. So why not educate yourselves, and be intelligent/aware by coming on this forum?

      BTW, if compared, there are so called gurus of self development, like antony robins etc, who charges a fortune and doesnt bring true change/shift/transformation--more awareness..

      The IDEA is, observe (aware) more before you talk/judge someone or someone like me will surely notice/observe how your low mental processes can handle. LOL!

      IF my post sounds insulting, apology for that, but I felt to hit you with a hammer, to wake up.


      And, oh to answer the question of the thread stater.. the answer is "YES", humans are that stupid "for bieng ignorant".




      The entire point of your post can be summed up into "Judge the message, not the messenger". This can be refuted for a myriad of reasons but one important one I'll throw out is this one. Source. I don't care if Bashar was telling the general public that the letter "C" comes after the letter "B". The mere fact that he's charging people 400 dollars for phone calls and claims to be channeling extra-terrestrials automatically kills his credibility.

      You'd think that if he were truly channeling advanced beings and wanted to really help mankind, he'd use them to find out cures for cancer or assist with other things plaguing mankind. Perhaps help divert disasters before they happen. You'd think he'd help facilitate meetings between these beings and our government to help with public disclosure or possibly alert the NSA to possible threats from otherworldly visitors. If he were truly channeling advanced beings with the care of man in mind, I wouldn't see any reason for him to just pander on the goal of paying his rent each month with his obscene charges for a crock pot of shit that's been re-cycled to mankind by slicksters ranging from motivational speakers to fortune-tellers years before he made his way onto the public circuit. But it's evident the path he's chosen and it reflects not only on his credibility, but also his ingenuity. Yes, I said ingenuity.

      I'm open minded, but not to the extent where my brain falls out. I don't believe it to be my mission to wake up anyone to this charlatan's bullshit. I honestly believe if you're simple enough to buy into acts from guys like this, then your money is better off in other peoples hands.

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      LOL! ahaha! goodness!

      cancer is curable! like anything else, you don't need bashar to give you info on that. if you only knew cancer can easily be cured! do your homework, and don't watch too much tv being manipulated by drug cartell. And if you're gonna ask me for the cure.. persist me then and I might "tell" you, or "educate" you rather

      Let me tell you something, did you know bashar has materials for your health?.. yes, yes, oh yes, oh yesSSS, he has! you might want to look into that before opening your mouth again. FYI, before you try to ask where I got my knowledge on curing cancer, I was an iridologist/naturapath and i don't need bashar info re health, in the first place. Also have acquaintances with physician doctors who incorporates natural medicines with their practices.

      2nd..... why is it you seem to have issues with money and credibility? bad memories from the past eh?

      you can download almost all of his materials freely if you like, you know? .. or you just wanna stay ignorant kid like your doing now...? does that taken care your money issues then? now if you benefited from, then you can donate, like darryl is saying on his website.

      And after all of I said.. you said you are open minded eh? LOL.. was it "open" or "close"? you must be having problems with words too you know? dyslexic? ahaha!

      3rd ...... why not complain to your god instead blaming bashar for all the sufferings of this world, ehem.. of your own world??? if GOD doesnt intervene on humanity seemingly wrong doings based on your perception, why blame bashar then? does that made sense to you? or you still don't get it? ahahaha!

      And 4rth, (lastly, thanks goodness!!! ) ..... if it is not your mission to wake up anyone (as you said), then why start a thread like this? oh yeah? having apathy issues too huh? do you know apathy is a very low vibration of consciousness?


      Seriously, if you only knew how to listen and observe you wouldn't have that kind of perception you are having now.


      "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." - Albert Einstein.


      This posts of mine has been archived, for future reference. The point is clearly won and nothing else to discuss further and will be a waste of energy, if to continue.

      Enough said
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      Quote Originally Posted by stateofbieng View Post
      What's the matter can't handle high speed information on your low cpu brains? LOL
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      Quote Originally Posted by stateofbieng View Post
      LOL! ahaha! goodness!

      cancer is curable! like anything else, you don't need bashar to give you info on that. if you only knew cancer can easily be cured! do your homework, and don't watch too much tv being manipulated by drug cartell. And if you're gonna ask me for the cure.. persist me then and I might "tell" you, or "educate" you rather

      Let me tell you something, did you know bashar has materials for your health?.. yes, yes, oh yes, oh yesSSS, he has! you might want to look into that before opening your mouth again. FYI, before you try to ask where I got my knowledge on curing cancer, I was an iridologist/naturapath and i don't need bashar info re health, in the first place. Also have acquaintances with physician doctors who incorporates natural medicines with their practices.

      2nd..... why is it you seem to have issues with money and credibility? bad memories from the past eh?

      you can download almost all of his materials freely if you like, you know? .. or you just wanna stay ignorant kid like your doing now...? does that taken care your money issues then? now if you benefited from, then you can donate, like darryl is saying on his website.

      And after all of I said.. you said you are open minded eh? LOL.. was it "open" or "close"? you must be having problems with words too you know? dyslexic? ahaha!

      3rd ...... why not complain to your god instead blaming bashar for all the sufferings of this world, ehem.. of your own world??? if GOD doesnt intervene on humanity seemingly wrong doings based on your perception, why blame bashar then? does that made sense to you? or you still don't get it? ahahaha!

      And 4rth, (lastly, thanks goodness!!! ) ..... if it is not your mission to wake up anyone (as you said), then why start a thread like this? oh yeah? having apathy issues too huh? do you know apathy is a very low vibration of consciousness?


      Seriously, if you only knew how to listen and observe you wouldn't have that kind of perception you are having now.


      "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." - Albert Einstein.


      This posts of mine has been archived, for future reference. The point is clearly won and nothing else to discuss further and will be a waste of energy, if to continue.

      Enough said
      You know, you do your almighty Basher a disservice when you claim or imply that He/She/It is the source of infinite knowledge... whilst simultaneously making posts that make you seem like you still belong in grade school. If you're going to represent someone or something, make a good impression or keep quiet. Otherwise, people will turn away from Basher/Allah/Christ/Ganesh/etc because of you're foolishness. If you want to help Basher, then either get hooked on phonics or leave the advertising/promoting to someone more competent.

      Also, someone IP check this toad.

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      Quote Originally Posted by stateofbieng View Post
      LOL! ahaha! goodness!

      cancer is curable! like anything else, you don't need bashar to give you info on that. if you only knew cancer can easily be cured! do your homework, and don't watch too much tv being manipulated by drug cartell. And if you're gonna ask me for the cure.. persist me then and I might "tell" you, or "educate" you rather

      Let me tell you something, did you know bashar has materials for your health?.. yes, yes, oh yes, oh yesSSS, he has! you might want to look into that before opening your mouth again. FYI, before you try to ask where I got my knowledge on curing cancer, I was an iridologist/naturapath and i don't need bashar info re health, in the first place. Also have acquaintances with physician doctors who incorporates natural medicines with their practices.

      2nd..... why is it you seem to have issues with money and credibility? bad memories from the past eh?

      you can download almost all of his materials freely if you like, you know? .. or you just wanna stay ignorant kid like your doing now...? does that taken care your money issues then? now if you benefited from, then you can donate, like darryl is saying on his website.

      And after all of I said.. you said you are open minded eh? LOL.. was it "open" or "close"? you must be having problems with words too you know? dyslexic? ahaha!

      3rd ...... why not complain to your god instead blaming bashar for all the sufferings of this world, ehem.. of your own world??? if GOD doesnt intervene on humanity seemingly wrong doings based on your perception, why blame bashar then? does that made sense to you? or you still don't get it? ahahaha!

      And 4rth, (lastly, thanks goodness!!! ) ..... if it is not your mission to wake up anyone (as you said), then why start a thread like this? oh yeah? having apathy issues too huh? do you know apathy is a very low vibration of consciousness?


      Seriously, if you only knew how to listen and observe you wouldn't have that kind of perception you are having now.


      "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." - Albert Einstein.


      This posts of mine has been archived, for future reference. The point is clearly won and nothing else to discuss further and will be a waste of energy, if to continue.

      Enough said
      An idiot and a man with a big ego walk into a bar. The idiot tells the man with a big ego that he can beat him at a simple math problem and if he succeeds, the ego driven man has to buy him a beer. The ego driven man immediately agrees. The idiot says 24 divided by 2 is 17. The idiot is very confident and brags about his imminent win to the other bar regulars. This infuriates the ego driven man and he argues with the idiot about his reasoning and logic he used to arrive at his answer. He even tries to sit down and break down the equation step by step to prove himself right and the idiot...well, an idiot.

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      More customers walk in the bar and see these men pointing at each others chests and raising their voices. The customers ask other observers what's going on. They're told that an idiot made a wager with an ego driven man and they're trying to settle the win. The customers look on for a few more minutes and ask each other..

      "Which is the ego driven man and which is the idiot?"

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      Stateofbieng, I'm pretty sure you're good at math. I'll leave it at that and well agree to disagree.
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      The information is agreeable. Regardless of what he does as his own person, I take the information and evolve. The world is full of negative things, but I take the good from it and keep it moving. He has to make a living too. It cost money to make those books, dvd's, hotel and travel cost.I don't care that he charges for his time or services., but most people don't pay for it anyway. I didn't! It's all online, youtube and other sites. And if people want to pay for it, let them. We are stupid everyday for spending our money on things that don't matter: 100 dollars for sneakers, 50 dollars for video games when a new one comes out months later, same as the "latest" cell phone, and so on, and so on. But I don't hear anyone saying, " Those NIKE guys are a scam! They're charging us 100 dollars for shoes that cost 20 dollars to make!" (raises eyebrow) So when people spend money on trying to better understand themselves and world the around them, versus mindless entertainment and materialistic things, THAT'S stupid?? And HE'S stupid or fraudulent for charging them?? The Thread topics question just gives me some insight into your state of mind, and how you view that aspect of the world. Dont miss the message tryin to kill the messenger (no matter what form the message comes in).

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