The 'imran-and-universal-mind-argue-irrelevantly' Thread!

[bradybaker]

I'd push the button.

[jacobo]

no. a better question would be... how much money would it take for you to kill a puppy with your bare hands? so you say 100,000... why not 99,999?? now that question is more fun.

[Universal Mind]

a better question would be... how much money would it take for you to kill a puppy with your bare hands? [/b] No amount of money would get me to do that to an innocent puppy. A rotten, horrible adult dog, on the other hand... for free! However, if you think of it, you can cure world poverty with that money. Basically, I would do all those crappy things, and make the world a better place. If I could just keep the money myself, and not give it away, I wouldn't do any of those things. If that doesn't make me sound as McGandhi, I don't know what does. [/b] Yeah, Ghandi would murder 1/6 of the world's population so a lot of people could have more money. He was humanitarian like that. For those who said they would choose option A, how could you ever be happy again after murdering a billion people? How could you ever possibly be happy after knowingly, deliberately murdering just one innocent person for a selfish reason? Do you have a conscience about anything? Here's a question... Would you overthrow a genocidal, terrorist, enemy government that had used weapons of mass destruction for terrorist purposes if they were reported by six other governments and the United Nations to have stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction if you strongly believed you would be creating a democracy in the heart of the Middle East that has a chance of growing over time into a successful and awesome ally country? Would you do this if you knew that 45,000+ innocent civilians would be killed by accidental crossfire and deliberate insurgent terrorism and 3,000+ of your own soldiers would die?

[Ynot]

(A) Push a button that kills a billion people randomly. (This might include you, or your family&#33[/b] Yep, there's only a 15% chance of it killing me these are the best odds out of the whole lot

[Indecent Exposure]

To everyone who said option A HIEL HITLER?? all the options except D) or E) thos elast two are simply a matter of priorities IF i could pick which ten years I spent in prison id do it ID go in when i was 60 come out when i was 70 and bloody well die after having alifetime of riches =) its bloody woth it if i had to do the time now, id pick none of them Imran

[BohmaN]

orgy 5 hours with my family. hahaha so lol but its worth it. I can afford a couple of hundred shrinks and psychologists etc to heal my mind

[TweaK]

To everyone who said option A HIEL HITLER?? [/b] No. This is quite different. Hitler exterminated because of hatred for races; This is completely unrelated. Oh, and it's Heil, not Hiel.

[Indecent Exposure]

Oh i Do apologise for my spelling =O and yes obviously I wasnt drawing a perfect comparison or else every person I was speaking to would ahve had to be German aswell and a Nazi however, the comparison likes in the fact that Hitler was a murderer who was more than happy to kill millions of people to further his own ambitions and ideologies and that aspect is transferable =) Imran

[TweaK]

Oh i Do apologise for my spelling =O and yes obviously I wasnt drawing a perfect comparison or else every person I was speaking to would ahve had to be German aswell and a Nazi however, the comparison likes in the fact that Hitler was a murderer who was more than happy to kill millions of people to further his own ambitions and ideologies and that aspect is transferable =) Imran [/b] Yes, I didn't look at it that way. You're right.

[Keeper]

it goes down to: a) would you kill unrillated people?? b) related people c) abomination d) incaserate yourself with a chancve of good and a chance of bad? e) harm yourself this should tell a lot about who you are

[Kaniaz]

Wouldn't stop me. Heck, nothing would stop me. You're going to try and kill me? I'll just mash the button a few times and BOOM you're dead! Why would I want 100 billion dollars when that button more than pays for itself, geez. I would really like a button that didn't kill me. I guess I could spend the 100 billion dollars inventing a better button. the comparison likes in the fact that Hitler was a murderer who was more than happy to kill millions of people to further his own ambitions and ideologies[/b] Of course, America is willing to execute hundreds of people to further their own ambitions (a crime free world) and ideologies (that crime is bad). But they're not exactly Hitler.

[Ynot]

Wouldn't stop me. Heck, nothing would stop me. You're going to try and kill me? I'll just mash the button a few times and BOOM you're dead! Why would I want 100 billion dollars when that button more than pays for itself, geez. [/b] exactly, 1 billion if you push the button how much will the rest of the world pay you not to push the button 10 billion 100 billion the threat is all you need no need to actually carry out any killing

[Keeper]

so some of you would kill for money?

[Ynot]

so some of you would kill for money? [/b] it would have to be an extortionate amount of money

[Kaniaz]

But yes.

[Keeper]

even the good people?

[Ynot]

you could always go that one step further, and play God "You will give me your eternal devotion & loyalty, or I'll make you suffer" works suprisingly well

[Keeper]

... what? I dont follow. How can you make them suffer? would you kill good people?

[Kaniaz]

ESPECIALLY the good people. They'd probably have more spirit and try to get the thing off you.

[Keeper]

would you kill Gaundi? Or Einstain? Newton, Tesla, Tomas Edison, The man who pulled you out of the way of a car? the person who gave you there lunch at school because they wanted to help? What about the person who ... do you see what I am saying?

[TweaK]

would you kill Gaundi? Or Einstain? Newton, Tesla, Tomas Edison, The man who pulled you out of the way of a car? the person who gave you there lunch at school because they wanted to help? What about the person who ... do you see what I am saying? [/b] Seeing as I've never heard of a Gaundi or an Einstain (what's that, a special kind of bloodstain?), yes.

[Indecent Exposure]

hahaha kniaz u actually just supported my point A comparison between hitler and bush is quite sensible both of them, abused there postions to commit murder in the millions they both had extensive propaganda campaigns, and were at time supported by the masses in there country yes I owuld compare the Bush administration to the hitler one and bloody hell, if u would kill for money, your no better than Saddam Hussein, and have no real right to suggest that he deserved to die thats sick And actually I bleeive the majprity of people who suggest they would push such a button are all mouth faced with a real button and the question they wouldnt not at all if they would you need seriously looking at and dont include Einstien amongst - the good people just because he was highly intelligent and did a lot for science doesnt make him a good person what ghandi did made him a good person ethics, morals, and virtues make someone " a good person" not a talent like science Imran

[Universal Mind]

A comparison between hitler and bush is quite sensible both of them, abused there postions to commit murder in the millions [/b] So now it's up to "millions"? I stopped taking people seriously when they started throwing around "600,000". At least that figure is posted on left wing hate blogs. Since you are now talking about Bush, what are your yes/no answers to these questions... Would you overthrow a genocidal, terrorist, enemy government that had used weapons of mass destruction for terrorist purposes if they were reported by six other governments and the United Nations to have stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction if you strongly believed you would be creating a democracy in the heart of the Middle East that has a chance of growing over time into a successful and awesome ally country? Would you do this if you knew that 45,000+ innocent civilians would be killed by accidental crossfire and deliberate insurgent terrorism and 3,000+ of your own soldiers would die? [/b] Remember... Those are yes/no questions. They are about choosing very specific options just like the ones in the initial post. If you want to express disagreement with how that scenario is supposedly out of sync with the Iraq war, then please do it after you answer the questions. What I illustrated is what I honestly believe to be the case, so your answer will be very interesting to me. Thanks.

[Kaniaz]

and bloody hell, if u would kill for money, your no better than Saddam Hussein, and have no real right to suggest that he deserved to die thats sick And actually I bleeive the majprity of people who suggest they would push such a button are all mouth faced with a real button and the question they wouldnt[/b] You willing to put me to the test? $100 billion in escrow, please. (Better hope the escrow folks don't die).

[Indecent Exposure]

lol, althogh I obviously cant Yes Id be willing to test you you wouldnt do it Imran