Thread: Would you trust this?

he has nothing to gain by telling the truth, and everything to gain by lying. the default position on salesmen is that they're always lying. especially on the internet.
were I a moderator, I'd actually delete this thread it's so much of an advertisement.

Originally Posted by no-Name

he has nothing to gain by telling the truth, and everything to gain by lying. the default position on salesmen is that they're always lying. especially on the internet.
were I a moderator, I'd actually delete this thread it's so much of an advertisement.

I just want an honest opinion of what people here think of this guy and his way of getting women. I'm not telling people they need to follow this guy and buy his products.

To answer the thread title: No.

2,705 posts in and it turns out you're a spam bot?

Clever.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

2,705 posts in and it turns out you're a spam bot?

Clever.

It was my plan all along to finally 1 day spam the boards when everyone thought i was not a spam bot. Jokes on you guys! [/sarcasm]

Go talk to girls.

Leave the advertising to the robots.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

Go talk to girls.

Leave the advertising to the robots.

"Hey, how's it going?"
*she answers*
"So, yeah, do you like...stuff?"

You can't just talk to them, you gotta know what to say first. He seems to know what he's talking about. I can't approach a girl, i feel the normal things.

"Why would she like me?"
"She's busy, i will leave her alone"
"She will be back, i'll talk to her then"
Etc

I know anyone can get any girl, you just gotta be able to know what to say to them and you don't learn that by walking to them and telling them if they like "stuff". If anyone laughs at you and says she's way out of your league, you just laugh back and prove to that person he's an idiot for making that lie. This isn't about hot girls, this is about ANY girls. Most people disagree with the girls i like because they are so fixed on wanting the "10" girl you see around town, while i don't give a damn.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

"Hey, how's it going?"
*she answers*
"So, yeah, do you like...stuff?"

this bit here reveals you've got some problems making conversation. let's fix that.

You can't just talk to them, you gotta know what to say first. He seems to know what he's talking about. I can't approach a girl, i feel the normal things.

I see all this "them" in your speech. stop thinking about females as something other than human. they're like you or me or anyone else you would ever have a conversation with.

"Why would she like me?"
"She's busy, i will leave her alone"
"She will be back, i'll talk to her then"
Etc

these are all excuses you make to yourself for not being brave enough to talk to a female. stop it.

I know anyone can get any girl, you just gotta be able to know what to say to them and you don't learn that by walking to them and telling them if they like "stuff".

again with this "them" shit. stop treating females like aliens, and just hold a conversation.

you don't have to know the magic words to say to girls, you just make conversation.

if I say "Dreamviews is terrible today." there are a couple kinds of responses you could make.
you could say something non-interactive, like "Yeah, I know." to which I would have go off of. there's no launching pad from that. it halts the conversations and forces one of us to think of something else to say.
the other way is to say something interactive, such as "Why is that?"
as dumb and obvious as it is, it's the way conversations move. from there, I can say any number of things. I can tell a story, I can try and switch the topic because I don't want to talk about it, I can do any number of things but it forces me to say something. it's a direct question, which fuels conversations.

this is now a Help! thread for Flanders.

Anyway so it doesn't get OT more. Does anyone think his approach is a good way to do it?

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

Anyway so it doesn't get OT more. Does anyone think his approach is a good way to do it?

we don't know his approach unless we buy it.
which is a scam.
do not trust this garbage.

Jesus.

They're people. If you want to go for it like you're just picking them up then buy this shit and learn 'techniques' so instead of worrying about saying things you just come up with rehearsed methods that appear confident.

Because that's all that is. Pop psychology aside, it's just a way to buy confidence. If it works.

I don't think you just want to pick up girls though. I think you want a nice happy relationship. You seem the sentimental type.

So go talk to people and if one happens to be a girl and you find that you like her then go on from there. And you will know how to go on from there because suddenly she's a person you know and have talked to and you know what to say.

Okay.

We're human! Just be nice, be yourself, because if I started a relationship with you then after awhile found out you "got me" from techniques I'd find it creepy and feel as though you lied to me/I don't know you at all.

You just need to get confident enough to actually go up and talk to us. To people. Whoever it is, she'll probably just be flattered instead of freaked out. It's nice when a random strikes up a conversation. The more you do it, the easier it will get and then the more you'll be relaxed.

I'm currently doing it with spiders. I'm working my way to picking them up so I'm not afraid of them Yesterday instead of showering it down the plug I got it on some toilet roll and let it out the window. Achievement!

Originally Posted by Raspberry

We're human! Just be nice, be yourself, because if I started a relationship with you then after awhile found out you "got me" from techniques I'd find it creepy and feel as though you lied to me/I don't know you at all.

You just need to get confident enough to actually go up and talk to us. To people. Whoever it is, she'll probably just be flattered instead of freaked out. It's nice when a random strikes up a conversation. The more you do it, the easier it will get and then the more you'll be relaxed.

I'm currently doing it with spiders. I'm working my way to picking them up so I'm not afraid of them Yesterday instead of showering it down the plug I got it on some toilet roll and let it out the window. Achievement!

I'm taking this because i need help. When people say "talk to them" i think "how?". How am i supposed to talk to a girl when i have no idea what i'm supposed to say? i wanna be fun and flirty, not boring and dull like "hey, how was your day?" I've approached girls and i did it wrong. I asked them out for coffee the first thing i said. After that...i had nothing else to say which would have made that coffee the most boring waste of time for both of us. Only way i can talk to girls is if i know them for a while and got comfortable, then i can be flirty and fun talking around them (which i am). With Alex he gives you ideas of things to talk about, but everyone else just says "talk to them" everywhere i go which leaves me confused and pissed because that doesn't help me at all, and you can't build off that. It's like a conversation ender. My whole goal is to be a fun person around girls, and make them laugh all the time. I guess i got somewhat of an advantage...people tell me i got a good to great personality. I don't want a relationship, just lots of fun conversation and dates. I also have Social Anxiety but i'm not using that as an excuse.

No, I wouldn't. There is nothing magical there that would suddenly make you succesful.
Go with the flow. Remember that wise man does not agonize himself over the 100 who say no. He knows there is ultimatetly always ( at least) one who will say yes. Do it until you feel comfortable.


Of course, while it is the best advice, it is also frustratingly hard. I know.
Be welcome and my apologies.

ps. read Least I Could Do: the Comic » by Ryan Sohmer and Lar deSouza. It helps

I HATE IT when that guy I like doesn't start the conversation. You see a girl you're interested in, go right ahead and talk to her like a friend. Know that girls like straight-up honest guys, not fake guys *PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!*, and remember you want her falling for who you really are, not a technique you bought for sixty bucks or something.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

I'm taking this because i need help. When people say "talk to them" i think "how?". How am i supposed to talk to a girl when i have no idea what i'm supposed to say? i wanna be fun and flirty, not boring and dull like "hey, how was your day?" I've approached girls and i did it wrong. I asked them out for coffee the first thing i said. After that...i had nothing else to say which would have made that coffee the most boring waste of time for both of us. Only way i can talk to girls is if i know them for a while and got comfortable, then i can be flirty and fun talking around them (which i am). With Alex he gives you ideas of things to talk about, but everyone else just says "talk to them" everywhere i go which leaves me confused and pissed because that doesn't help me at all, and you can't build off that. It's like a conversation ender. My whole goal is to be a fun person around girls, and make them laugh all the time. I guess i got somewhat of an advantage...people tell me i got a good to great personality. I don't want a relationship, just lots of fun conversation and dates. I also have Social Anxiety but i'm not using that as an excuse.

Talk to us like you talk to anyone else. Yes, "hey, how was your day?" may sound boring, but after that she could say something like "I saw these girls wearing mustaches!" and from there you could ask more about it, recall an experience, say something sarcastic... Just let it flow yeah? If you guys really gel it'll be easy. And if you really, really need a clutch, drink a shit-tonne of coffee whilest you're out [sarcasm]

Originally Posted by NoctemConArtist

I HATE IT when that guy I like doesn't start the conversation. You see a girl you're interested in, go right ahead and talk to her like a friend. Know that girls like straight-up honest guys, not fake guys *PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!*, and remember you want her falling for who you really are, not a technique you bought for sixty bucks or something.

...why don't you start the conversation with him.

You can't talk about guys using 'techniques' as though it's a bad thing if you're playing your own games with him.

These techniques are just different ways of learning to understand different situations. Learning is the keyword here. It's not like a technique in how to get as many girls in bed as you can. How to approach a girl at a coffee shop, or a grocery store, a book store, etc. Nothing wrong with the technique, just requires learning how to adapt to different situations.

"hey, how was your day?" may sound boring, but after that she could say something like "I saw these girls wearing mustaches!"

I wish mine would end up that way. When i ask girls that they say the normal thing "not much here" kind of thing. Then i watch her walk away, or i walk away. I'd rather say "I hope your day is as good as mine is" or something like that. I guess it's my fault, my body language probably sucks pretty bad. But i'm tired of saying stuff like "yeah" all the time, it drives me nuts!

"So today i saw these pink unicorns"
"Yeah"

Then is that your own fault, or the girls?

Originally Posted by Raspberry

Then is that your own fault, or the girls?

I pick option C.

Well if you have no problem talking with people you have already met, then you just have to adjust that to complete strangers. Like in all things the first step is a bit difficult. When you get some topic rolling you just have to talk and try to sail your way around rocks. Just ask yourself what do you have to lose and what do you have to gain?

No, I wouldn't. Talking to girls is no different than talking to guys. Girls like to talk about movies, girl like to talk about sports, girl like to talk about their friends and family.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

These techniques are just different ways of learning to understand different situations. Learning is the keyword here. It's not like a technique in how to get as many girls in bed as you can. How to approach a girl at a coffee shop, or a grocery store, a book store, etc. Nothing wrong with the technique, just requires learning how to adapt to different situations.

Maybe Sindred's right lol

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

I wish mine would end up that way. When i ask girls that they say the normal thing "not much here" kind of thing. Then i watch her walk away, or i walk away. I'd rather say "I hope your day is as good as mine is" or something like that. I guess it's my fault, my body language probably sucks pretty bad. But i'm tired of saying stuff like "yeah" all the time, it drives me nuts!

This happens because she's not interested. Simple. Not all girls are going to be interested in anyone. Some girls think Brad Pitt is ugly. Srs....

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

"So today i saw these pink unicorns"
"Yeah"

You're probably really not very interested then.
I know social anxiety can make you want to talk less. Because you're trying to avoid feeling nervous. But this also tricks you in to thinking you have nothing to say.
I know this is true, because as soon as you have a couple of drinks, you will be able to talk and you will be interested in what the person's saying, simply because the anxiety is gone.

It took me a while to realise this, and I'm giving you this information for free!

You can figure all this conversation stuff out by yourself, which will make a real lasting change on you. It will also be free, and you might even get laid in the process.

Beats giving away money for something which is most likely a scam, and which will also take practice anyway, and you basically won't be able to have a real relationship either.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

...why don't you start the conversation with him.

You can't talk about guys using 'techniques' as though it's a bad thing if you're playing your own games with him.

because it feels like it's always me starting the conversation, it's never him, and frankly that sucks.

but this isn't about me... as about 100 other members have already said, this is a scam and will not be useful. things you can get for free, such as advice from this site, will be way more useful.