 Originally Posted by Dianeva
I notice that, whenever someone says something negative on here about his or her life (or anywhere really) everyone assumes that they're wrong and tries to correct them. Whenever someone says something positive, on the other hand, it will receive a like and an agreement reply if anything.
If this is right, then it implies that either people think it's okay to try to make people feel better through lies, or they really think that everything is that fantastic. We can correct people if they're mistaken about something. Like if there's a 25 year old who thinks it's too late to return to school - that's bs. But telling someone that everything's going to be okay... that's just bs. We have no idea whether their life is going to be okay.
This is because you keep sustaining this paranoia that people are out to lie and not try to wish the best in a person. The same logic applies to someone saying "Good Luck," or "Wish you the best!"
I think this thread is just an example that some people just want to be heard, but they don't necessarily have to follow anyone's advice. People need an outlet, and this is one example of that, and sometimes how people respond might not really help, but only damage a person's perception of a conflict they're going through, but people do tend to be more empathetic here at least compared to other forums.
(I know that a site related to a certain fetish that has a Rant thread would completely demolish what you were saying, just from personal experience)
I guess I've just noticed there's this social positiveness. It's taboo to be negative, and if someone is negative, the person they're talking to immediately tries to convince them that everything will be okay. It bothers me because it's fake. If the person believes it, then it's a false comfort. There's no karma, the world doesn't magically make your life super easy
once you've experienced something terrible. The real world is not like a story; its ending doesn't necessarily have to be good, or even significant in any way.
Actually, you're using the concept of karma wrong here (but I do know you're saying there's no karma. It's presumed (the concept), that how you make certain decisions in your life (whether good or bad) will affect a person's reincarnation of the next life. So that means it'll either be one or two grades higher, several grades higher, or several grades lower.
But it seems the whole "what goes around, comes around" is a misconception people use a lot as if it's used to measure justice and pick out the bad and the good. Empathy can only go so far, and some people just can't find the right words, so the pretentious declarations is just trying to console subconsciously, even if it may not be practical. It's what happens when you just want to help someone, to be there for them, people tend to try to be the Hero.
It would be a pretty degrading thread if people wouldn't give two shits about what a person ranted about. And we already know people in the past that are practically begging for consolation, no matter how pretentious it is. You on the other hand, are someone that easily sees this flaw and tries to be realistic (which is good), but again, it's just emotions conflicting with logic, it's just complicated.
You remind me a lot like people on Facebook that want real friends. They never realize that friends are going to naturally want to be there to support you and only true friends can be realistic and give you the truth (but people don't really like them, thinking they're two-faced, ironically)
[kind of talking to myself in this paragraph]
And no one accuse me of being uselessly pessimistic. I'm simply being realistic instead of fake. It's good to be happy and everyone should strive for that state. But don't delude yourself into thinking that complete satisfaction with your life is ever going to be achieved. This isn't some fantasy story. You don't go through difficult stuff in your life for some purpose, so that you can come out a wiser, stronger person. In fact most of the time that shit barely changes you at all. Or not in any positive way, at least.
There's a difference between a person denying themselves of accepting reality and pretentiously exhibiting happiness, and someone that understands reality, that shitty things happen to people, and it's a matter of who sustains themselves by battling through those shitty messes.
When people are trying to help, of course they don't know that person's lives, and even if people give a decent amount about themselves, it's not all that they stand by, but that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be an intention that people are trying to wish others the best. Some people use this thread to vent and ignore any responses to it, and some people use it to just get some input from others.
I understand that you're tend to be irritated to those who are being "fake," and what have you, but ironically, being realistic tends to give off a negative vibe, so the only option in a forum like this (that tries to have a balance) is for people to positive intentions for that person. For a person to actually take someone's advice and let it be the sole factor in changing their lives that it'll be all just fine and dandy, you're right, it is truly bullshit.
Ultimately, it's the person that's going through the problems to hopefully settle down a bit, think through their problems, and try to find other options.
It's a flawed system that forums try to sustain with not trying to be too cruel to someone (even though realistically it would help). If being realistic (even if it meant being slightly cruel) was allowed, I'm pretty sure this thread would be locked in a heartbeat (or the user being banned and/or given an infraction).
Anyone that tries to console someone should know that everyone is going to have pain, they're going to have to understand it to make themselves stronger, but to make the concept of trying and encouraging a defeatist mentality towards anyone that apparently gives "lies" and "false comfort," that's one thing, but it doesn't mean people automatically disregard that pain and bullshit are going to happen in their lives.
A person without scars has a shallow life, you're completely right, but people are at least trying.
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Also, I'm starting to notice that you accept people who apparently are genuinely happy (in your starring role in your stage of reality) to be more credible to console others. I think it's because most people you see on DV are more realistic and tend to be apathetic at times, so you probably think they don't have authority to console others. Again, this is a presumption, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but whoever you think can genuinely show happiness (especially in your responses to who can show a genuine smile in that pictures thread) obviously aren't telling the bad parts of their lives. (Or you're already good friends with them, so you disregard them from this). I think that and other aspects I rather not go through about you is the kind of a double standard in itself.
Which brings me back to my comment about Alyzarin's post with Limerence, but eh, you already know that.
*shrugs*
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