I'm out of coffee, and I'm sorta broke at the moment. I didn't realize I'd miss coffee so much... the taste... the smell... *sigh*
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I'm out of coffee, and I'm sorta broke at the moment. I didn't realize I'd miss coffee so much... the taste... the smell... *sigh*
Erowid Experience Vaults: Caffeine - Addict Went Too Far - 19132Quote:
Originally Posted by khh
A cautionary tale. :P
I suppose I should be offended, but then again I am sitting here eating instant coffee... :cheeky:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alyzarin
I rest my case. :chuckle:Quote:
Originally Posted by khh
Hey man, caffeine is for real, it can grab ahold of you lol. I never realized how much it was getting to me back when I was drinking lots of sodas and energy drinks literally all the time until I finally tried going without it for a while. I mean it's not like some hardcore drug or anything, but it does take a toll. I felt much better both mentally and physically after I quit and haven't looked back since, I've only had caffeine a few times in the past year and a half or so on isolated occasions. The cool part is that now on those times it actually does get me pretty stimulated, too. :3
Not trying to change your usage or anything, just saying. X)
@zhaylin....it's pitting edema. I would say "go look it up"...but you know how the internet is.....you look something up and then a few minutes later you think you have cancer.
hehee, thanks Auron. I've looked it up in the past and became half sure I had Congestive Heart Failure :doh: In my sleep deprived state, I forgot what it was called.
I only get directly on top of bone from my knee to my ankle. It goes away as quickly as it shows up which is why I connect it to eating hotdogs.
lol, Aly. Loved the story in the link! That was more than a bit extreme :eek: I don't typically drink coffee because it kills my stomach (pain, sometimes "flushing"). But I do love my caffeine pills. I take anywhere from 2-6 a day. I drink soda, but I'm a slow drinker and I tend to drink only 1/2 a can before it goes flat or gets too warm :roll:
When I was a teen however... ugh.. I took "No-doze" (sp) too frequently once that I was like the guy in the story. I can't take that brand to this day (if memory serves, it had a hint of peppermint or something in it). It was a nightmare lol
EATING instant coffee, khh? Ewww, lol. My kids used to do stuff like that with various things- coffee, tea, spices :barf: They'd lick the stuff off their fingers.
My rant is that I want real food and more smokes and a fountain drink. Coke from the can just isn't satisfying anymore.
I didn't wake up until 5:30... and then I started my period. I'm glad it waited until I used the restroom because I slept buck-naked today lol
Now I'm going to eat 2 hard-boiled eggs and wake up...
Yeah, he went a little crazy lol. I don't much care for coffee myself. I've thought about trying pills before, but I don't think there's much of a point anymore. If I have more than one or two sodas these days the caffeine will go right back to not effecting me in any way. You hit sort of a point of such intense stimulation with certain drugs that I feel it's hard to go back to something like caffeine. :chuckle:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhaylin
Too much caffeine too often definitely wears on you. I kind of wish I'd only ever taken it a few times, because that strong stimulation you get the first time you ever have a lot of caffeine in you is just so clean and intense feeling. It's a little more nootropic than other stimulants like coke or speed. It'd be cool if you could have that preserved and just dose a few times a year. :rolleyes:
heh- my caffeine addiction is one of the reasons I think I don't have true anxiety problems. Nothing about my anxiety is typical anyhow. I think my body produces too much adrenaline or something. Caffeine makes nothing worse, it just helps me to get through a day or push beyond.
I don't think I've ever gotten a "rush" from caffeine. On a normal day, it just helps keep me from falling asleep when I should be fully rested.
It occasionally gives me jitters, but that's usually only if I overdo it or don't have enough food on my stomach
When I was a teen even I realized (and vocalized) that I could easily abuse speed. Even back then, I had problems randomly falling asleep and having zero energy. So I'm somewhat glad I've never done "real" drugs.
Provigil/Nuvigil are stimulants, but it's hard to explain the differences. Caffeine helps give me physical energy whereas Provigil/Nuvigil give me mental energy and in doing so I feel more motivated and get stuff done. Staying awake is the only thing I get from Caffeine. And that's enough most of the time lol.
My rant is a headache and stomach flushing thanks to reduced caffeine intake (headache) and those 2 eggs I ate (flushing). But boy those eggs were yummy. They were given to my hubby by one of his techs who raises the chickens. I had forgotten how much meatier and filling free-range chicken eggs are.
I'm going to finish watching an episode of Prison Break, then I need to get that list of prices and items together so I can send it to hubby tonight when I ask for more money. After that, I need to check my facebook games lol. My poor farms are all wilted by now :lol:
I'm nearly at my wits' end with my job. Ever since a large layoff about 5 years ago, we have not had a network engineer on staff. My background is in RF/SATCOM engineering and antenna characterization and testing. At the time, we had a relatively flat network with only a couple of VLANs at the office and it wasn't much to handle the upkeep. The old tired Linux servers kept on running and I never needed to fuck with anything. More equipment was added over the years to support more customer needs, and as a result, more networking hardware with even more firewalls, routers, VLANs, VPN tunnels, IP accelerators, PBX systems, and such. For the last 4 years, I have been forced to learn how to handle all of this IP crap and try my best to make it work and keep it working. Thank fucking God for Google.
So, suddenly the PM gets the idea that they want to locate all of the application servers at a data center an hour away from the office and 2100 miles away from the satellite uplink facility. So, the once flat network at the uplink facility becomes 6 VLANs with all this security bullshit and the data center has even more shit. To top it off, there is no dedicated link between the facilities, so up go some VPN tunnels over the 'net and about 20 pages of access-list statements that need to go into the routers and firewalls. Also, I might add, the firewall/router at the uplink facility was specified for a relatively flat network and is apparently incapable of accepting more than one static route. Sooooo... A long struggle with an outsourced network engineer who is always, when I call him, conveniently inaccessible because he is riding on a train or bus or some other bullshit, rather than sitting in front of a computer where he can help me. Oh, but God fucking forbid that I log into the firewall at the data center and make any changes. I can't do that because we have someone else on contract to manage that firewall. .....from the seat of a fucking train???!?? http://www.xjimx.com/dreamviews/Smileys/banghead.gif
Today, I threw my hands up. ...and did so right in front of my manager and the president of the company. I told them both that I've been asking for help for 5 fucking years now, and I have received nothing other than hopes and empty promises. They asked if the outsourced help was working out, and I let them know exactly how I felt about him -- completely fucking worthless aside from the initial installation and basic configuration. I told them that when I email him, I can't expect a response inside of 4 hours. I let them know that I'm not going to continue working like this. Maybe, just maybe I'll actually get some help now. Otherwise, I'll most likely be freshening up my résumé.
I'm never much of a complainer unless things get ridiculous. Wasting 2 days trying to force a second static route into a device that won't accept, then catching shit because devices on the other side of the VPN tunnel can't be pinged it is the straw that broke the camel's back.
/rant
hopefully not /job.
They got a part time position opening up at the bakery :teeth:
Anyway, sorry to hear it. We've had a similar issue at my job, though no where near as critical as your issue. I hope it gets sorted out so you can stay at your current job. If not, AnderJ's Smokehouse has a really nice ring to it.
Provigil and Nuvigil are more similar to cocaine and amphetamine than caffeine, though still not exactly the same. They increase the release of dopamine and norepinephrine more intensely than caffeine which is what causes the increase in motivation and mental energy. The heavy stimulants do this to an extreme degree and make you feel like you can take on the world. And then there are drugs which directly stimulate dopamine and norepinephrine receptors like many phenethylamine psychedelics and cause effects even stronger than that, and are just phenomenal. :smitten: Caffeine, on the other hand, blocks receptors associated with adenosine. Essentially, this prevents the natural lowering of dopamine and norepinephrine associated with tiredness, and since it's preventing something from being lowered rather than causing its release, it tends to be a weaker and more specific effect than those created by heavy stimulants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhaylin
That being said, I've definitely gotten a rush and much more from caffeine. :P The first time I ever chugged a bunch of energy drinks is comparable to my early experiences with speed in level of stimulation, though the euphoria wasn't as intense. I was shaking and grinding my teeth and rambling to my friends nonstop, it was great. X) I'm pretty sure it's just because my caffeine tolerance was fairly low at the time and I'd never used any other stimulants, though. The thought of getting that stimulated from caffeine these days is just horrifying. :disconcerted:
I get horny looking/thinking about buds like that. It happens more if I've been smoking recently too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alyzarin
So weird.
That albino weed looks cool though, I wanna try it! :D
Peppermint (or menthol, rather) increases the absorption of drugs. That's probably why it was so bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhaylin
Although I think caffeine has close to 100% absorption rate anyway, so I dunno. Maybe just too much.
Here's another cautionary tale for long time heavy caffeine users - Psoriasis. Your skin can get really scaly and dried and yucky.
Anderj, that sucks bro. Anyone who knows nothing about computers thinks that anyone who knows something about computers knows everything about computers. So of course, they make you do it all.
Idiots.
Good luck with it.
That sounds like an absolute nightmare AnderJ!! I hope they finally listen and do something about your complaints!!
lol, Tommo. You must really love your weed :cackle:
My headache is almost intolerable right now. I took a caffeine pill to try to knock it out, but apparently, caffeine-withdrawal is not the reason for the headache :?
I made up my list and sent it to hubby. I over-shot myself initially. I can get everything I want for $708. Then I made the mistake of telling him about the kids' reaction to his coke spendings. Now he's very cranky. So cranky that I didn't ask for an advance. Which means I wont have any smokes tomorrow :bang: At least until he gets home from work.
It also means no real food. I will NOT eat peanut butter again lol. It absolutely killed my stomach the last time. But I have no problem with eating plain white bread. I also have some Club Crackers and 2 more hard-boiled eggs so I wont starve.
And now I'm depressed for opening my big, fat mouth and making hubby cranky. He was talking about how much he hate spending money on us because everything gets destroyed and I told him that's exactly what I told the kids, then I told the story. I should have just heard him out then kept quiet.
Blah.
I know, doesn't it look intense? :armflap: Ah, to be a grower....Quote:
Originally Posted by tommo
Don't worry, I understand where you're coming from lol. My mouth waters every time I see some really gorgeous dank. :D Pretty much everything about smoking weed is sexual for me, it makes me feel like I'm in some kind of trippy sex scene like the one in Fight Club. :rolleyes: And it has that effect that I can really only describe as enhancing your imagination to psychedelic levels.... Like I could be lying down leaning over the edge of my bed smoking a joint and feeling like I'm actually leaning back over a huge and really high-up cliff in the middle of some giant cavern, and it's not like I'm actually seeing it but it's a very clearly defined image and the emotional impact of it is present. And then of course there's the smoke, which is just wonderful beyond words, especially when you just watch it bend and break. :smitten:
To be honest, pretty much the main reason I smoke these days is because it gets me going. Sexual stimulation makes for some pretty intense meditative and spiritual experiences. :cloud:
AHHHH yeah I do the same thing!
Well, not the cliff, but similar imagining I'm some place cool, spas or pools are awesome coz you can easily feel like you're in the ocean.
Once my friend said, when we were in the spa with the jets on "Let's pretend we're swimming down a river" haha Didn't do it though, way too small.
Yeah it's definitely one of the best sexual drugs out there, although I haven't tried much else in the way of psychedelics.
It should be prescribed for premature ejaculation too, can go for hours on weed.
Anyway, this is distracting me and I won't be able to stop thinking about smoking now. So I'll stop :lol:
That does sound like a good one, I'll have to remember that. :content: Probably best that you didn't though, that seems like it could get messy very quickly. :P
Psychedelics in general will provide significantly more sensory enhancement than weed, so I suppose they've got that going for them, but the only one that actually surpasses weed for me in terms of direct effects on sex drive, or even equals it, is LSD. :smitten: LSD is essentially like what you get when the dream world collides with the real world and the resultant explosion is made of rainbows, and it stimulates you in a way that just makes you feel extremely at peace with everything and like the metaphorical aspect of your mind is on overdrive, like you're holding a kaleidoscope to your third eye, and it starts using that thought process to redesign the world around you just like a dream. And since it makes me insanely horny, it basically makes it so that I start experiencing my psychedelic fantasies first-hand. :D
Hehe, what's wrong with thinking about smoking? I think I'll smoke a bowl myself. :rolleyes:
Meanwhile... Nathan goes to work! Exciting life I live..Quote:
Originally Posted by Alyzarin
I wish I lived in Canada. This place sucks.
I wish I could say weed really isn't all that glamorous, but it honestly is lol. All I can really say is that if you want to make a change so bad, it's not really that hard to find if you just talk to the right people. It's much more common than most people think, weed is literally everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by yuppie11975
I didn't do so well on the Math Quiz today that's supposed to just elevate our exam grade, since the class average was horrible. Hell, the quiz was harder than the exam itself....I mean, I understand that getting 20+ points on the test means having to make the quiz challenging, but damn, 4 questions, when I'm not even confident that I answered at least 2 right....ugh.
I also am afraid of what my adviser might say on my progress so far. I shouldn't worry because at least in the terms, I have until the end of the semester to do well, and as long as I get A+'s in History, Sociology, and a B in Organic Chemistry (and A+ in that class would be a godsend), I'll still be okay.
She can't really do anything to scare me, and she's a nice lady, so there's no need for me to worry, but still, I don't like saying my grades when her assistant can overhear on the conversation. It just feels awkward finishing a meeting when I state my grades, come out of the door, say goodbye to the assistant who's nice to me as well, and wonder if she thinks I'm a failure.
I know I shouldn't care about what these people think, but it's really hard when they'll have a constant reminder that I might not be able to go through this semester well...especially since I come there once a week.
And the maintenance staff that handles this section of the apartment, I don't know if their heads are full of shit. Less than 2 months ago, they "fixed" the hot water issue I had, and one had to come in to "fix" it again by draining the dirty water out.
Now the hot water doesn't work again, and they're supposed to come today (hopefully), and they FINALLY make the conclusion that the Boiler inside a separate room in the bathroom needs to be changed. You bloody cheapskates! I know it's common sense to try and go the cheap route and just buy replacement parts to "fix" the problem, but now that they're making the conclusion it needs a huge upgrade...it pisses me off.
Part of it is because if I wasn't so lucky to get someone to be in the house for me, I would have to arrange a time for them to come if it was just me....and I don't even think I could fit in extra time for that....
And this online homework, even though I'm doing fairly well in getting 50% done so far, I feel that if this online thing that's supposed to "tutor" you didn't exist....it would make this Organic Chemistry lecture course easier. I just read the book, do the problems, go search concepts from the internet and other books I have, and I know I can just do fine with that.
Then again, I can't even wish that the online homework would be taken off the syllabus because then the teacher would make us take a quiz EVERY time we go to class.....ugh...damn it lol!
So I survived my first school day, I didn't go last week cause I was sick. Like I have 1 day school and 4 days work every week. The people in my class are pretty cool, made some friends. And even went to a bar after school to have a drink with my new mates :D. BUT then the school pissed me off. So now cause of several reasons I gotta go to school on tuesday instead of wednesday. Which probably means I'm getting into a different class unless my class also go to school on tuesday, but I doubt that. So that means I have a new 'first schoolday' next week and I don't want that ):
:hug: Yuppie, Link, Crashyy.
Even though I grumble about money very often, I am VERY grateful I don't have to worry about a job!
And I'm EXCEPTIONALLY grateful that I don't have to worry about school lol
So, keep fighting the good fight. Y'all are amazing :)
My rant is my fatigue. I keep falling asleep in my chair. But my sleepiness is justified today seeing how I didn't sleep last night.
I sent hubby an email bright and early with the heading "Only if you have the time". If he wasn't in too big of a rush or too frazzled, I asked him to leave my advance.
He did :smitten: So I got my smokes and food for the day AND a fountain drink :)
I ate my usual 2 hotdogs with provalone cheese and then I picked up one of those cake slices for my dinner :roll:
I'm content :D My belly is anyhow and my headache has subsided for the most part.
The only thing I'm grumbly about is that Cocoa's been going potty in the house. WTF? She came to us fully house trained. She's NEVER given me any problems until this past week. She's not sick. There's nothing scary outside. The door is always open. What the heck has gotten in to that brat?
Man, after I got drunk the low-grade almost-gone cold I had has kicked into over-gear. Now it's moved down into my lungs as well, which leaves me coughing a lot. Also my head feel stuffed and blocked, and my airways (from the nostrils to the lungs) are hurting in general. Yet somehow I've not experienced a significant drop in energy. Perhaps cause I had so little to begin with.
On the plus side I got some coffee. It was great getting a cup again, and it reminded me of one of the reasons I drink it in the first place. When I drink coffee it's like a tension leaves my body. It's quite subtle, but it makes me feel better. And it's not relieving symptoms of withdrawal, I get the exact same feeling even if I haven't had any in a long while (and I've identified that for me caffeine withdrawal either causes a day of migraine, or nothing at all). It's actually quite close to the way nicotine makes me feel, though it's effects are much stronger. I don't want to use any nicotine, though, as it's harmful, expensive and too addictive.
I do wonder about the effect. I think all stimulants would cause the same feeling (to varying degrees, obviously) but I can't test the theory. It does make sense though, stimulants are known to cause those kinds of effects in small doses in certain cases.
Caffeine is a much more efficient stimulant than recreationally abused ones. In addition to increasing neurotransmitter levels in a way that directly relates to focus rather than just everywhere throughout the brain, it also activates glycine receptors which causes an increase in the amount of communication between your body (like muscles and stuff) and brain, allowing for smoother movements. Furthermore, it has a couple metabolites that contribute to its effects. One of them increases blood levels of glycerol and fatty acids, and the other causes vasodilation which reduces tension and allows blood to flow quickly and more easily. Lastly, coffee contains even more chemicals that can effect the metabolism of caffeine and increase its effects.Quote:
Originally Posted by khh
All stimulants do cause a relief in tension, but not in the same way that caffeine does. As I said a little while ago in response to Zhaylin, caffeine is a very clean stimulation, it stimulates the body and brain through a more complex mechanism. Chemicals like cocaine and amphetamine just make you feel good as a result of a large release of dopamine and endorphins.
I get that you're into drugs, and I'm cool with that. People choices are peoples choices; but it's a tad irresponsible encouraging minors to get into drugs. I don't know, you should be more careful - could have been some easily influenced kid reading that, and his life would have been destroyed in a month. # Just saying C;Quote:
Originally Posted by Alyzarin
If I had just brought up the subject myself then I would agree. However, I was just responding to a post you made that implied that you would like to try it (whether you actually meant it or not, that was the message it gave), and all I said was that you can if you really want to. I don't encourage minors to do drugs unprovoked, but I will not try to talk someone out of smoking weed either, and I would if it was any other drug. Weed will not destroy anyone's life.Quote:
Originally Posted by yuppie11975