Thread: Rant and Rave, Cry and Complain

My boys were about 2 and 4 years old when they were circumcised. Their foreskin wouldn't pull back or something properly and they were getting infections. They were jumping on the furniture the very next day and didn't seem traumatized in the least. I had to tell them to settle down so they wouldn't hurt themselves.

My rant today is the visit I had with my 15 yo. I wear long skirts and dresses. It's who I am. I don't like smothering, tight clothing. I loathe bras. Because of that, I wear a vest with almost everything.
My 14 yo gave me a hard time before we left: "Destinee told me to make sure you wore jeans!" Well, I'm sorry. I bought a new skirt just yesterday. If I knew I was supposed to wear jeans, I would have bought a pair. My only 2 pair are dirty right now. Sorry about your luck, but I'm wearing my skirt.
Once we got there, Zee, her friend, Destinee and I were in Destinee's bedroom at the facility. I sat on the floor- which is what I do when with friends or isolated, which we were. They freaked out on me, told me to sit on the bed. They grumbled about my fanny pack.
Tough, I don't like to go to public events the way it is, so be thankful I even showed up!

We went outside and did some activities. Destinee didn't want to participate but she was eventually pulled in. They had headbands on with pedometers on them. They were supposed to shake their heads and whom ever got the highest number won. I was sitting and watching nearby, so I said: "Hey Sis. Just pretend I'm telling you to clean your room." She was mortified. No one else heard but my other daughter and her friend. When it was over my 15 yo said: "Don't yell, ever again. It's not cute."

Then we had dinner. I had too much on my plate. We were sitting at the very end of a picnic table. Destinee asked me what I doing, so I told her, "I'm wrapping my hamburger so I can stick it in my purse." She automatically started dying of embarrassment which made me realize I spoke too loud and made me die of embarrassment. But the only people near us talked about going home and milking their goats and Country people understand about not wasting food.
My girls laughed so long and hard that I couldn't help tearing up. Before long, a few tears were falling. My 15 yo noticed right away. She's pretty empathetic like that. I blamed my tears on having an onion from my hotdog stuck in my throat.

I was miserable for the rest of the visit, feeling inadequate and stupid and unwanted. I wondered why the heck I had even gone there. I knew I was overly emotional because I was with a crowd of strangers, but that didn't help me feel any better.

On the way home, my 14 yo started picking on me again so I told her to lay off- that I was criticized enough by my hubby, parents, sister etc. Then she felt bad and said sorry and I told her it was fine.

I want to stay in my bedroom and not leave for a few years now. I'll never be refined and polished. I don't CARE to be refined and polished. But I don't want to be belittled, so I'll just keep myself to myself. It's worked out fine so far.

Originally Posted by Saturos

Ok, and for the clothes thing, I exaggerated, it's not that he can't wear them, it's just that it's extremely sensitive, almost to the point of pain. But remember, I only have his word to go on, so don't take what I say in this specific area of the discussion too seriously.

He must be doing some weird ass shit with his penis if he's experiencing pain whenever he's wearing clothes. I'm not circumcised and I've never experienced any sort of discomfort. The only time the head was overly sensitive was when I exposed it for the first time back when I like was 13... jacking off solved that problem pretty quickly.

Originally Posted by Saturos

Yeah, they obviously shouldn't be touched, but the circumsizor (sp??) or doctor or whatever is just inflicting the pain because it's one of the duties of his job, while someone who inappropriately touches a child is just doing it for their own desires.

The doctor's only going through with the operation because of the parent's desires. Is there really any difference if the end result is the same? Well almost the same, the circumcision would have a lasting impact.

Well, the doctor also gets paid, insurance doesn't cover circumsicion where I live, at least. And yes, there is a difference. A doctor who feels my balls during a physical (please tell me that this is normally the case, or else I've been molested) to check for testicular cancer isn't doing it for some pleasure, he's doing it because it's his job.

That's different imo, a physical is important and it's a good idea to have routine checkups. A circumcision on the other hand, is usually pointless. If there's a legitimate medical reason that makes it necessary, then by all means, get it over and done with. For cosmetic or religious reasons though? That's just fucking stupid and ridiculously pointless.

It's like cutting off the pinkie(s) on a child's foot (or feet). They won't remember it nor would it hinder them any more than a circumcision would but it's still stupid. Why wouldn't you discourage such pointless mutilation?

Gavin you rock. <3

Doesn't circumcision prevent bacterial infections and other nasty crap, that would otherwise form underneath? If I were a guy, I'd rather lose one small piece than the whole thing, if you know what I mean.

Originally Posted by Puffin

Doesn't circumcision prevent bacterial infections and other nasty crap, that would otherwise form underneath?

sure, as does simply washing your dick.

it's actually pretty silly, as you'll get an infection either way if you don't wash yourself. it's just more obvious if you don't have foreskin.

Originally Posted by Puffin

Doesn't circumcision prevent bacterial infections and other nasty crap, that would otherwise form underneath? If I were a guy, I'd rather lose one small piece than the whole thing, if you know what I mean.

This is a myth. The foreskin actually protects the glans from infection and abrasions.

Ha, looks like I started a circumcision debate .

Yes circumcision damages sensitivity, whoever doesn't believe it can check their inner skin sensitivity (the skin closest to the glans, and above the scar on guys who are cut) and compare it to the outter (lower shaft) skin and see that the inner foreskin is clearly more sensitive. Well an intact man will have 3-4 inches of this type of skin, and cut man will have 1-2. I will say though that sometimes sensitivity does not directly translate to more pleasure, I once heard of a guy who was cut later in life complain he was too sensitive. But for the most part it does.

And yes I am restoring my foreskin, I'm sorry if that's TMI, I have been restoring for over a year. Though I'd say about 6 months straight due to miscalculations in tension which led to tear marks.

Ah, okay. I'm out of the argument then.

Originally Posted by Puffin

Doesn't circumcision prevent bacterial infections and other nasty crap, that would otherwise form underneath? If I were a guy, I'd rather lose one small piece than the whole thing, if you know what I mean.

Nope, some people don't realize that the foreskin is pretty much just a sleeve that slides down your cock so they assume that the glans (head) can't be cleaned if the foreskin is in the way.

Great choice of worse? I agree.

@ Monsters:

Maybe take it to a different thread guys?

(But quickly throwing in my opinion; I think it's wrong because the babies cannot give consent and I really don't see a point).

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

Yes circumcision damages sensitivity, whoever doesn't believe it can check their inner skin sensitivity (the skin closest to the glans, and above the scar on guys who are cut) and compare it to the outter (lower shaft) skin and see that the inner foreskin is clearly more sensitive. Well an intact man will have 3-4 inches of this type of skin, and cut man will have 1-2.

3-4 inches?
Of skin? That's just weird man.

So last night was emotional for me. My friend that I was talking about previously finally showed up. She admitted to stealing from me on the MMO we play and was regretting it seriously. Now your probably thinking (omg stealing virtual items over friendship that's so lame, defriend her now) Purhaps few can understand it. This paticuler item is sometimes sold online for over $500 dollars, there exists only small numbers of the item, and they are discontinued in game. It is an item that is very sought after in a very popular MMO, It took me years of effort to earn such an item and a ton of luck. The thing is I'm so happy she's back that I barely care and I forgave her, I strangely feel guilty for causing her so much guilt.

Originally Posted by Zhaylin

My boys were about 2 and 4 years old when they were circumcised. Their foreskin wouldn't pull back or something properly and they were getting infections. They were jumping on the furniture the very next day and didn't seem traumatized in the least. I had to tell them to settle down so they wouldn't hurt themselves.

Children sometimes don't have retractable foreskins until much later (the average age of retraction in Denmark is 11 years of age I believe). Many doctors don't seem to know this and will sometimes forcibly retract children. My friend who is 17 has never retracted in his life.

Originally Posted by tommo

3-4 inches?
Of skin? That's just weird man.

Why? Not used to seeing a normal healthy penis?

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

Why? Not used to seeing a normal healthy penis?

Burn...

I just can't fathom how there could be that much.
Maybe if you stretch it out or something. But if you mean 4 inches of skin just hanging off. I would not call that a "normal penis".

I also don't spend my time looking at other men's dicks.

Sorry guys, I would keep talking about this but I honestly don't have anything new to add, and I think some people are starting to get offended, but it was fun while it lasted.

Yup, chopping off dicks is fun fun fun!

It's my favourite thing to do

I meant that the debate was fun...

Originally Posted by Saturos

I meant that the debate was fun...

I know I was kidding

Oh, my bad then.

Originally Posted by tommo

I just can't fathom how there could be that much.
Maybe if you stretch it out or something. But if you mean 4 inches of skin just hanging off. I would not call that a "normal penis".

I also don't spend my time looking at other men's dicks.

I didn't mean to sound offensive btw, I'm sorry I came off that way, was tired and defensive. And it doesn't all hang off, this is upper shaft skin we are talking about. Inner skin is any skin that is on the inside of the fold of the foreskin. And yes I meant to say 4 inches of stretched skin.

Originally Posted by AustralianFire

They arn't horns! they are ears, you do the maths!

And here is a picture of a owl that probebly won't show up:


I mean how the fuck could you say no to that!?

Umm... Like this:

NO.

Haha! I just did it! I said no to that supposedly cute owl.
YOU LOSE, OWL!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

Extremely rudely awaken due to my brother, who decides that 10:30AM is a good time to start drinking, starts blaring rap music right after I finally was about to get some sleep.