Thread: The Secret

There are an equal amount of (evil) people that use the Law of Repulsion to cancel out everybody's wishes. That is why the Law of Attraction doesn't work.

I am one of those people.

Funny man!

No, the Law of Attraction is nonsense, just like prayer, Birthday wishes, fairies, and the rest of it.

Having a positive attitude is a good idea, however.

No, the Law of Attraction is nonsense, just like prayer, Birthday wishes, fairies, and the rest of it.

Thanks, asshole ;_;

Originally Posted by Xei

Funny man!

No, the Law of Attraction is nonsense, just like prayer, Birthday wishes, fairies, and the rest of it.

Having a positive attitude is a good idea, however.

The church took 5 mins from my life and I want then back.
Ah, who am I kidding, I'd waste them anyway.

Anyway The law of attraction is BS. It give false hope to people who are to lazy to go and actually do the work to get what they are looking for. On the plus side, I like watching their hopes get crushed after they clue in they wasted so much time for fuck all. I'm an ass like that

Spartiate/OldSparta- you guys wouldn't know but just think that because physics (and everything else) works differently in Canada. (And in ancient Greece for that matter, so you guys are double screwed.) See, out here in the real world we aren't supposed to use logic or reasoning. Duh!

So are you guys saying I don't get a brand new Ferrari?

Originally Posted by Xei

Funny man!

No, the Law of Attraction is nonsense, just like prayer, Birthday wishes, fairies, and the rest of it.

Having a positive attitude is a good idea, however.

Agree, Except for the prayer bit...

How would prayer make any more sense?

My prayer would be to a being I call: "God".. Since I believe this is true.. The concept of prayer, I would find easier to believe than the concept that; little things come and replace the teeth under your pillow with money...

Since I believe my holy book has evidence of this I choose to believe.. But I don't criticize anyone who doesn't believe in god, because I believe that everyone has a right to have their own opinion...

I just said except prayer because I believe in it.. It doesn't concern anyone else..

Just like I don't believe in the Law of attraction, it's my opinion.. I shouldn't of said it in a way that made it seem like I was stating a fact, I'm sorry if I offended anyone who believes in it.. That was completely my fault..

P.S. I would appreciate it if no one started arguing with me that religion doesn't make sense, because I'm not looking to convert anyone or prove my point.. If you don't believe in it, that's your opinion...

It's not really a matter of belief, statistical evidence shows that prayer has no additional effect on outcome.

I just find the idea kind of cynical, because it means that when natural disasters (i.e. acts of God) occur and swathes of people are indiscriminately killed, the implication is that this was because they were bad people who didn't pray hard enough.

I am currently trying it as an open minded experiment. if it works for you i'll let you know

Originally Posted by spockman

Spartiate/OldSparta- you guys wouldn't know but just think that because physics (and everything else) works differently in Canada. (And in ancient Greece for that matter, so you guys are double screwed.) See, out here in the real world we aren't supposed to use logic or reasoning. Duh!

You lost me after you said my name.

Originally Posted by Xei

It's not really a matter of belief, statistical evidence shows that prayer has no additional effect on outcome.

Statistical evidence... It'd be pretty hard trying to find statistical evidence when you have such a shady subject... With so many variables you could never be absolutely sure that the statistics are not erroneous.

Variables such as: The quality of prayer, whether "God" (If he exists) chooses to answer that "prayer" etc..

This is probably why statistics can be found for that statement aswell

Originally Posted by Xei

I just find the idea kind of cynical, because it means that when natural disasters (i.e. acts of God) occur and swathes of people are indiscriminately killed, the implication is that this was because they were bad people who didn't pray hard enough

I don't think so... the hoards of people that die don't have to be "bad" people who didn't pray hard enough... In most cases it could be one of the following:

1) According to most religions, when it's someone/something's time to die.. it's their time to die...
2) In some religions, it is believed that god places trials upon people to test them...
3) It is also believed in some religions that when people become ill, god is testing the people around them to see how they react to this.. (To help or not)

I'm no scholar but I know this much... I don't like talking about religion much, because tbh, it irritates me when people start fighting about the subject.. And I also get slightly irritated when people start to convert me...

I appreciate your comment and I also appreciate your beliefs... But I would appreciate it if we wouldn't discuss this further... Thanks,

Originally Posted by Xei

It's not really a matter of belief

If actual statistical evidence that did not have the possibility of being false was found against religion, then belief in religion would not matter... But that's not the case...

Originally Posted by OldSparta

You lost me after you said my name.

I'll rephrase. You are in Canada. As far as I have heard, Canada does not work the same as other places. So any conclusion about physics you can come to doesn't apply anywhere else.

On another note, I once made a pen and paper roleplaying game where the law of attraction worked. Of course, human flight and palm shot energy beams also worked, so...

It works as it says it does, I have used it several times and it worked. Seriously. It's also interesting to use in rock-paper-scissors! ^.^

Hey Snowboy, I'll give you a few games of rock-paper-scissors on DV Chat later if you like.

Originally Posted by Snowboy

It works as it says it does, I have used it several times and it worked. Seriously. It's also interesting to use in rock-paper-scissors! ^.^

How did you use it? Because using the winning of a game with a 50/50 chance of victory to support LoA isn't reliable.

move this to religious debate prease...I hate seeing people think that the LoA doesn't exist, but a magical bearded man in the sky does...
Not getting into any debates, so don't try it. I think that the Law of Attracting could most likely be simple placebo, just like prayer. They are the same thing in my mind.

Originally Posted by Creation X

move this to religious debate prease...I hate seeing people think that the LoA doesn't exist, but a magical bearded man in the sky does...
Not getting into any debates, so don't try it. I think that the Law of Attracting could most likely be simple placebo, just like prayer. They are the same thing in my mind.

Then don't bring up contradictory statements if you don't want to discuss it. Personally, I see more of a reason to believe in God then the LoA. I am open to evidences and logical arguments for the LoA if anyone cares to bring them up.

Originally Posted by spockman

Then don't bring up contradictory statements if you don't want to discuss it. Personally, I see more of a reason to believe in God then the LoA. I am open to evidences and logical arguments for the LoA if anyone cares to bring them up.

Exactly, I love how some who hold an irrational theory will beg not to be debated or challenged... If your beliefs made sense, they wouldn't be hard at all to debate.

Originally Posted by Spartiate

Exactly, I love how some who hold an irrational theory will beg not to be debated or challenged... If your beliefs made sense, they wouldn't be hard at all to debate.

I beg to differ, all you're doing is making yourself sound arrogant... Just because a person prefers not to argue with someone to prove his point of view it does not mean that point of view is any more improbable than the point of view of the person that does want to argue..

The reason I chose not to argue, was not because of my lack of evidence, but instead because when you argue it's just that.. An argument..

Why would I want to get on the wrong side of someone, when I don't even know who the person is?...

P.S. Your answer to this, may be that an argument doesn't have to divide people.. But in the majority of, arguments/debates (if you will) that I have witnessed, people have crossed the line.. And more often that not; the term: "no hard feelings" just doesn't cut it.. So if you want, take my hostility towards arguments, just as a precaution...

An example: In my last post I made my point against Xei's point.. Which IMO correctly addressed all of his issues.. I then made sure I told him, I appreciated his comment, so we wouldn't leave on the wrong terms..

THEN, I told him I would appreciate it if we didn't discuss this any further.. Because I knew what the consequences of carrying on a debate abut a very fragile subject could lead to..

Your comment was at the very least, extremely presumptuous and slightly condescending.. No offence; but please don't make such narrow minded comments in the future...

Originally Posted by Creation X

I think that the Law of Attracting could most likely be simple placebo, just like prayer. They are the same thing in my mind.

This is true. In fact, if you read up on Huna a bit, you will find they are almost exactly the same thing.

If it works, it works. People dismiss the placebo effect a lot, but I think the placebo effect is the best scientific result out there. When test results for a drug show "oh, this is the placebo effect", to me, the result is not "the drug doesn't work" but rather, "you can heal yourself without the drug, and all it takes is a different attitude." Awesome!

I think under the hood, ALL information is out there, and all you're doing when you do the exercises (not sure what exactly they are - haven't read the book or seen the movie) is making your subconscious pay more attention to those things. When my friend really wanted to get a BMW, all he saw were BMWs all around, parked everywhere. They were there all along, but he just paid more attention to them. He didn't "attract" them. Likewise, the world is ripe with opportunity, and if you can perform an exercise that makes you notice said opportunities more, then power to you! There is no need to debate/discuss beliefs here, because this is about models, rather than beliefs.

Originally Posted by PXUmais

I beg to differ, all you're doing is making yourself sound arrogant... Just because a person prefers not to argue with someone to prove his point of view it does not mean that point of view is any more improbable than the point of view of the person that does want to argue..

The reason I chose not to argue, was not because of my lack of evidence, but instead because when you argue it's just that.. An argument..

Why would I want to get on the wrong side of someone, when I don't even know who the person is?...

P.S. Your answer to this, may be that an argument doesn't have to divide people.. But in the majority of, arguments/debates (if you will) that I have witnessed, people have crossed the line.. And more often that not; the term: "no hard feelings" just doesn't cut it.. So if you want, take my hostility towards arguments, just as a precaution...

An example: In my last post I made my point against Xei's point.. Which IMO correctly addressed all of his issues.. I then made sure I told him, I appreciated his comment, so we wouldn't leave on the wrong terms..

THEN, I told him I would appreciate it if we didn't discuss this any further.. Because I knew what the consequences of carrying on a debate abut a very fragile subject could lead to..

Your comment was at the very least, extremely presumptuous and slightly condescending.. No offence; but please don't make such narrow minded comments in the future...

If you want to end a discussion or debate, that's one thing. End it by admitting the discussion has run it's course and admitting you don't feel like talking about it anymore. But making an argument that gives counter points to your opponents last post, (or worse, bringing up entirely new points,) and then saying "But I am not going to debate it anymore so bye" is just immature.

I was going to say the same thing when I first read that post but I decided at the time I just wasn't bothered and he did kind of ask nicely.

But yeah. It's a bit like ending an argument with 'you're wrong!' and then putting your fingers in your ears and shouting 'lalalala!'.