Thread: The Secret

Originally Posted by Xei

It's not really a matter of belief, statistical evidence shows that prayer has no additional effect on outcome.

Statistical evidence... It'd be pretty hard trying to find statistical evidence when you have such a shady subject... With so many variables you could never be absolutely sure that the statistics are not erroneous.

Variables such as: The quality of prayer, whether "God" (If he exists) chooses to answer that "prayer" etc..

This is probably why statistics can be found for that statement aswell

Originally Posted by Xei

I just find the idea kind of cynical, because it means that when natural disasters (i.e. acts of God) occur and swathes of people are indiscriminately killed, the implication is that this was because they were bad people who didn't pray hard enough

I don't think so... the hoards of people that die don't have to be "bad" people who didn't pray hard enough... In most cases it could be one of the following:

1) According to most religions, when it's someone/something's time to die.. it's their time to die...
2) In some religions, it is believed that god places trials upon people to test them...
3) It is also believed in some religions that when people become ill, god is testing the people around them to see how they react to this.. (To help or not)

I'm no scholar but I know this much... I don't like talking about religion much, because tbh, it irritates me when people start fighting about the subject.. And I also get slightly irritated when people start to convert me...

I appreciate your comment and I also appreciate your beliefs... But I would appreciate it if we wouldn't discuss this further... Thanks,

Originally Posted by Xei

It's not really a matter of belief

If actual statistical evidence that did not have the possibility of being false was found against religion, then belief in religion would not matter... But that's not the case...