Thread: This! Is! Necessary! Life! Feeds On Life! Feeds On Life!

Welcome! Keep posting on forums and you will learn TONS! Some people learn lucid dreaming quickly for other it takes a while. Make sure you stay dedicated and have COMPLETE CONFIDENCE it will work and it will pay off. Lucid Dreaming is not like anything else. You can do ANYTHING. No limits. If you dont have confidence something wont work then most likely, it won't. Make sure you start a dream journal. Here is a good dream journal for your computer. Recalling your dreams is important. Here is the tutorials section. This shows you the different techniques and how to do them. Anyway I hope to see you around!

Remember, no matter how long it takes you, you'll never be as slow as me!

Welcome. I think you and I will get along very well. When you said you listen to some very weird, out of this world music, I instantly thought Tool. And Puscifer.

Anyways, I think you'll like the site. It's got one of the strongest community bases out of any website I've seen, and information that I've spent hundreds of hours poring over. I've probably only found 1/10th of everything that's been posted on here before.
I recommend starting a Dream Journal -- found in the Dream Journal section of the forum -- to write down all the dreams you have, or anything related to your dreams.

Also, (I think) posting threads with titles like this is considered against the rules. If it isn't, it's at least frowned upon, so you may want to refrain from doing it in the future.

i really like the title of this thread. tool kicks ass

No I definitely won't ever post a title like this again. I'm not a troll, or anything. I really love Tool, but I've never check out Puscifer, or A Perfect Circle. I know Maynard's in both of them. I'm aware it's frowned upon.

Last night I went to bed, told myself I would have a dream, wake up, and remember it completely, and I did. First one since I was like, 3. (Maybe induced by reading about dreaming and dreams so much, plus being totally confident that I would have one.) It started out with me being in my school band and complaining about it being too boring. Our teacher told me about a special "advanced" band, so I went there. It was a smaller class, and some of my friends were there. The teacher was my current French IV teacher. I needed music, and it took him a hell of a long time to call on me so I could ask for it, which usually happens in normal band. Then he gave me the wrong music (stuff for percussion, it was all tabbed like a weird guitar though) and I had to get called on again. We practiced, and it was hard (I can't really remember what it was, I don't think I even knew). We somehow ended up in New Orleans where we were playing, and the only things I remember there are flowers, houses, and walking on this ledge and having this guy get pissed cause it was on his property. The next day got interesting. I came to band, and had forgotten my instrument. The bandroom changed to a shack, and he made me hold a hot iron straight out, hold one to my chest, and he turned the heat really high in the shack. I thought about tripping him and leaving, but somehow I survived and it was a blur, I ended up running away. First we were near a school, then we were in my yard. Liam Beecher, this annoying percussionist, was there with a sling throwing these large crystal globes at me.My neighbors had a HUGE house and treehouse, and the porch under my house was really old, one we changed a while ago. I convinced Liam to stop with the sling and hide with me, and the next day we went into my house. My parents were fine with it once I told them what happened, and the dream ended.

I had a dream before that too, after which I dreamed that I woke up and wrote about it in my journal, but I actually didn't so now I can't remember what it was. XDXDXDXDXD


EDIT: By the way, the fact that this website apparently has a semi-large, friendly, non-flaming population is really important to me. This is something I want to do, but a lot of the times bad online encounters with other people can ruin something like this. You guys all seem friendly though. I hate people who flame, and I know there are forums where people realize "Hey...just because I have anonymity and because I can pretend to be knowledgeable does not mean I'm any better, or that my opinions are any better than those of, the people on the other side of the internet!"

Hello, welcome to DV! It's so cool that you have a couple of your friends to learn LDing with; a lot of people on this forum would be jealous of you.

Congrats on recalling a dream on your first try. You might not want to mention people's names though, just in case they happen to stumble upon this site.

Gotta love waking up and writing down your dreams, only to realize in the morning you'd only dreamed of writing down your dream. Of course, then you get to write down your dream of writing dreams.

And yeah, I really like this site. Pretty much everyone here is nice. Just stay away from the Religion/Spirituality Forum. ...Far, far away. You should definitely check out the chat though; it's a great way to get to know people here.

Edit: That post sounded really scatterbrained... Oh well. ^^

Puscifer is one of Maynard's many side projects. every song is a little bit different, and I don't think any of them can be classified. My favorite is Momma Sed.


Anyways, you remembering that dream has to do with a couple of different things. Now, everything I'm about to say is collective knowledge I've gained from the site, and some correlations I've made from studying psychology. I'm not sure how much of it is scientifically founded. That's something you learn from this site. But as long as it helps you lucid dream, I don't really think it matters.

Anyways, back to what I was saying. The first one of these that I notice right away is auto-suggestion. You told yourself you were going to remember a dream, believed it, and you did. This is similar to self-hypnosis. I wrote a tutorial on it that *almost* got published before the staff finally decided that it could no longer be considered an induction technique. But, for me, I consider it a very useful induction and dream control technique. Let me know if you want the link -- I wrote the tutorial based off of a thread I had started on here.

The second of these is.... well, I don't have a name for it. It's basically subconscious attention. You read about lucid dreaming, and you took steps to make it come true. Your subconscious recognizes that this is important and makes it happen -- an example of an evolutionary trait put to modern use.

Make sense?

and the angel of the lord came unto me, snatching me up from my place of slumber. and took me on high, and higher still until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself. and he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own midwest. and as we descended, cries of impending doom rose from the soil. one thousand, nay a million voices full of fear. And terror possessed me then. and i begged, "angel of the lord, what are these tortured screams?"

and the angel said unto me, "these are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! you see, reverend maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust." and I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared, "hear me now, I have seen the light! they have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! damn you! let the rabbits wear glasses! save our brothers!" can i get an amen? can I get a hallelujah? thank you jesus.

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see! the topic's on topic - a dream of carrots! welcome!

Originally Posted by Hidden

Hello, welcome to DV! It's so cool that you have a couple of your friends to learn LDing with; a lot of people on this forum would be jealous of you.

Congrats on recalling a dream on your first try. You might not want to mention people's names though, just in case they happen to stumble upon this site.

Gotta love waking up and writing down your dreams, only to realize in the morning you'd only dreamed of writing down your dream. Of course, then you get to write down your dream of writing dreams.

And yeah, I really like this site. Pretty much everyone here is nice. Just stay away from the Religion/Spirituality Forum. ...Far, far away. You should definitely check out the chat though; it's a great way to get to know people here.

Edit: That post sounded really scatterbrained... Oh well. ^^

It didn't. And um funny thing about the chat...they all hate me ^_^. The person in the I was talking about will NEVER come to this site, ever. And I'm agnostic (hope that doesn't bother anyone, it bothers lots of religious people and athiests too) so I'll be away from the religion forum anyway.

Originally Posted by oniman7

Anyways, you remembering that dream has to do with a couple of different things. Now, everything I'm about to say is collective knowledge I've gained from the site, and some correlations I've made from studying psychology. I'm not sure how much of it is scientifically founded. That's something you learn from this site. But as long as it helps you lucid dream, I don't really think it matters.

Anyways, back to what I was saying. The first one of these that I notice right away is auto-suggestion. You told yourself you were going to remember a dream, believed it, and you did. This is similar to self-hypnosis. I wrote a tutorial on it that *almost* got published before the staff finally decided that it could no longer be considered an induction technique. But, for me, I consider it a very useful induction and dream control technique. Let me know if you want the link -- I wrote the tutorial based off of a thread I had started on here.

The second of these is.... well, I don't have a name for it. It's basically subconscious attention. You read about lucid dreaming, and you took steps to make it come true. Your subconscious recognizes that this is important and makes it happen -- an example of an evolutionary trait put to modern use.

Make sense?

Yes, I would like a link to that tutorial if you don't mind.

Originally Posted by cygnus

and the angel of the lord came unto me, snatching me up from my place of slumber. and took me on high, and higher still until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself. and he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own midwest. and as we descended, cries of impending doom rose from the soil. one thousand, nay a million voices full of fear. And terror possessed me then. and i begged, "angel of the lord, what are these tortured screams?"

and the angel said unto me, "these are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! you see, reverend maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust." and I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared, "hear me now, I have seen the light! they have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! damn you! let the rabbits wear glasses! save our brothers!" can i get an amen? can I get a hallelujah? thank you jesus.

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see! the topic's on topic - a dream of carrots! welcome!

Awesomeness! I posted the second half of that as a facebook status without any explanation once, and all the kids from school were just like wtf....and it is on topic, lol.



So last night I tried WILD. And I came really fucking close. I imagined being in the band room in my school, and setting up my saxaphone. I could feel the rusted metal under my fingers, and here the clinking of the buttons and smell my mouthpiece and the smell of the school, and I could feel the rough, odd shaped chair and I was sooooo close to just being there. My parents woke me up though, coming back from a wedding . My father and his very large, loud mouth.

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I would like to see some of your photoshop worlds. It would be cool if you put some in your DJ.

See, the funny thing about that is in chat, the reason everyone hates me is because of those photoshop worlds. But I posted them in chat yesterday. It was interesting, cause people were lining up to shoot me down. I posted the simplest one first, and everyone was quick to criticize it and stuff, but then I posted some better ones and we ended up talking about alt accounts. I'm still learning, though. I really want a Wacom tablet so I can paint without a cruddy mouse.

They hate you... because you thought up worlds and photoshopped them? That doesn't make sense. o.0

No, because of the argument that led to my posting of them.

Well, welcome to the forum! I've been lurking and dropping little replies throughout the site for a long time. I only recently decided that it was time I actively participate. Hehe.

As you noted, this is a really non-flaming, interesting, friendly group of people all working together with collective goals. It's a nice place and it has so much information it could make your mind pop. The only advice I have at this point, because you seem to be scooting right along, is not to get stressed. A lot of people jump in to the Lucid Dreaming hype and get their confidence quickly shut down. The idea is to enjoy your dreams to the fullest, because they can be very amazing and refreshing. They can also lead to many epiphanies (song lyrics, new things to draw in photoshop, etc.. BTW: You should post some of your photoshops. I love to see people's creative work in it!). Just remember that Lucid Dreaming will come naturally over time if you focus on building up your dreams.

And it's so worth it.

Also: Listening to Tool coincidentally as I write this. Ah-ha. Love this band. ^^

welcome dude. lucid dreaming is awesome. i dont have much advice to give to you, but i agree that Tool is an awesome band