Beginers.

**Lizh** · 09-30-2011 09:38 PM

i know i shouldnt call myself a begginer since ive had this account for like three months, but i only had one lucid dream.
whats the best method for beginners?
i tried that one where you imagine becoming lucid but its worthless because it takes me a long time to fall asleep.
thanks

**Pandabear** · 09-30-2011 09:54 PM

The technique you see like "worthless" sounds like MILD. Is that right?
It also takes me long time for falling asleep, so I often spent 10 minuttes on daydreaming, and calm down, and then 10 minuttes listening to relaxing music, almost always binaural beats. After that, I'm so tired, that I almost fall asleep before doing MILD!

There isn't any "best" technique, because it depends on the person, and is different from person to person. But MILD is pretty simple, and effective, and recommed as a good beginner technique. I also think WBTB is very important, especially for my dream recall. And DILD is also a wonderful technique, and pretty easy and simple.

So, that's what I think. I hope I could help.
Good luck. If.you keep training, you'll get your next lucid dream soon. If not tonight.

**Arch** · 09-30-2011 09:55 PM

Welcome to dreamviews,
I recommend that you attempt either a DILD/MILD or both at the same time.
Its good to see you have started a dream journal, I recommend entering it daily.
What you tried was a mantra, you don't need to do it until you fall asleep, just for about 5 mins so that it stays in your head.
Here is my useful links list, I recommend checking them out.
Acronym List - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views (This is what all the abbreviations mean)
Reality Check Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
Sporadic Awareness Technique By Puffin
All Day Awareness by KingYoshi
DILD Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
MILD Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
DEILD Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
Enjoy

**Lizh** · 09-30-2011 10:48 PM

thanks

**Mancon** · 09-30-2011 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Pandabear

There isn't any "best" technique, because it depends on the person, and is different from person to person.

Exactly. No technique is better than any other. It all just depends on you and what technique fits you the best.

Look at these descriptions of all the techniques. What appeals to you the most? Which one can you fit into your daily life? That's the one you want to choose.

Although there is no best technique, MILD and DILD are the two techniques with the highest success rate. Good luck and stick with it!

**Lizh** · 09-30-2011 11:37 PM

thanks, again.
i hope im not over asking, but do any of you "pro lucid dreamers", think you could create like a quiz that could show what is reccomended for us.
thanks

**Mancon** · 09-30-2011 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Lizh

thanks, again.
i hope im not over asking, but do any of you "pro lucid dreamers", think you could create like a quiz that could show what is reccomended for us.
thanks

Hmmm...That's a good idea. I might try to make one later in the week.

**Lizh** · 09-30-2011 11:43 PM

, you're so kind.

**Robot_Butler** · 09-30-2011 11:59 PM

If you have a hard time falling asleep at night, don't make it worse by stressing about lucid dreaming. The best time to try anything like MILD or WILD is after 4 or 5 hours of sleep. Wake yourself up in the middle of the night so you are extremely tired and can fall back to sleep easily.

**Lizh** · 10-01-2011 12:02 AM

yea, but i dont want to wake myself up in the middle of the night.
last time i did that my family thought i was crazy.

**Mancon** · 10-01-2011 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Lizh

yea, but i dont want to wake myself up in the middle of the night.
last time i did that my family thought i was crazy.

You don't always have to use an alarm to wake yourself up in the middle of the night. Try drinking a ton of water right before bed, to wake up naturally.

**eldante** · 10-01-2011 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Mancon

You don't always have to use an alarm to wake yourself up in the middle of the night. Try drinking a ton of water right before bed, to wake up naturally.

This is probably decent advice. The thing is that if you wake up, even if you have to go pee or whatever, you are best off going back into a really relaxed mindset, and enjoy. Sometimes people get anxious over why they woke up, or if they can back to sleep again. The trick is to let your subconscious dreaming mind do its thing and play with it and enjoy it.

**Lizh** · 10-01-2011 02:36 AM

but i still think its a crazy idea
waking up in the middle of the night for "dreaming"
(Although i still love dreaming!)

**Puffin** · 10-01-2011 02:56 AM

Originally Posted by Lizh

but i still think its a crazy idea
waking up in the middle of the night for "dreaming"
(Although i still love dreaming!)

^ If anything, it's ironic.

MILD is definitely one of the most popular techniques for beginners, although most people try DILD or WILD/DEILD right along with it, because MILD can sometimes seem like more of a supplementary technique. If you get good at it, though (as with any other technique), you could be having lucids every night. Like Mancon said, it's all about which one suits you the best.

About getting up in the middle of the night and the possibility of losing sleep, you probably won't be awake for more than a few minutes, depending on how long it takes you to mentally wake up enough to WILD. Unless, of course, you're just doing a regular WBTB, in which case you just have to do some RCs, look around, and maybe do some logic problems before going back to bed.

**Raetin** · 10-01-2011 05:18 AM

I'm on top on a bunk bed when I sleep, do you think I can still do the drinking a lot of water technique?

**Mancon** · 10-01-2011 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by Lizh

but i still think its a crazy idea

I don't think it is THAT crazy. Lucid dreaming is awesome, and I think it is worth it to wake up a few minutes during the night to have one.

Originally Posted by Raetin

I'm on top on a bunk bed when I sleep, do you think I can still do the drinking a lot of water technique?

Yes you could, as long as you don't think you will wake up the other person when you get up.

**Pandabear** · 10-01-2011 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Lizh

but i still think its a crazy idea
waking up in the middle of the night for "dreaming"
(Although i still love dreaming!)

I also thought it was weird in the beginning, but I'm so glad, that I did it anyway. Already after a week, I could feel positive changes. It's important for my recall, and the LDs I've had was after the waking moment, where I only spent 10 minuttes listening to binaural beats. 10 minuttes, my friend. That's all for something so amazing.

And you just have to do it a few minuttes, if 10 is too long.

By the way, you wake up in the night after your REM sleep anyway, but you can't remember it. So it actually doesn't matter, if you use a few minuttes on being awake.

Happy dreams!