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      SP to LD... that pesky little last step.

      Hello guys, I've been reading quite a bit throughout these forums and I thank you all for the wealth of information on LD.
      That being said, there's still a little doubt going around in my head...

      I've been trying to achieve LD sporadically for some time now, and I've decided to take it seriously. I've had the occasional "Oh... I must be dreaming" dream, but without great consequences. It seems like I sort of become aware of the fact that I'm dreaming, but I'm not really interested in doing anything about it, short of eliminating any uncomfortable element. For example, I have had dreams of someone chasing me and right when they're about to "kill" me I realize it's a dream, and make them disappear... then just happily let my sub-conscious take over once again. So, as you can see, DILD has not cut it for me.

      This is why I'm trying WILD now, which I know is a lot harder to achieve, and have a couple of questions about it. Most of those I've been able to find an answer to by going through these forums. I'm extremely satisfied to learn that itches and "crams" are just ways our sub-conscious tries to determine whether we're asleep or not, and I'm also happy to read that flashes and abstract figures flailing around are part of the process as well... but right there is when it gets a little weird for me.

      I usually have no problem going to bed and into a state of early SP, after I've let all itches and discomforts torture me for a while, I start seeing "luminescent" figures (a ring that seems to shrink from outside my field of view to the center of it, circles of light, something I usually describe to myself as "my own irirs", etc) and then I can't take it from there.

      Usually right after this stage I seem to fiercely try to focus my sight on something, which causes me to become very aware of my physical eyes and they may even start to hurt a little. When I command myself to stop that, I begin to experience R.E.M. (great band by the way, I love them). Now, the problem is that this is not full blown R.E.M., I just get the eye movement and I don't see anything. I haven't read similar reports in the forums (please excuse me if there are some, I just didn't find them), and I don't know whether this is normal or is it just my own suggestion moving my eyes while trying to say "see... see... I've got R.E.M., I've got it, seriously... now where's that LD?". This morning I got to a point where my eyes started flickering open, and I've read that's also part of the process... it is a shame though that I've got a window right in front of me and this allowed for the light to invade my sight

      Well... I'm sorry for the long read and I appreciate you taking the time to go through all of it. I am seriously looking forward to hearing your comments and advices on this.

      Regards!
      Last edited by TomcatMVD; 05-27-2011 at 11:28 PM.

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