dream yoga success rate?

for me i had zero success and my sister who is a natural lucid dreamer said it inhibited her because instead of becoming lucid she just continued the "i'm dreaming this is all a dream" attitude from waking life into her dreams and also had zero success.

it seems thinking "i'm dreaming" all day but still doing everything else normally ("i'm dreaming" but still working, "i'm dreaming" but still studying, "i'm dreaming" but still shoveling snow, etc.) will just make you think "i'm dreaming" all night and do the same ("i'm dreaming" but still following along with mundane things in the dream world instead of becoming lucid and doing your own thing.)

not to mention the fact that saying AT ALL TIMES in your head "i'm dreaming, this is a dream, etc." is seriously invasive for one's thought process when trying to learn new tasks or get work done. especially if one is good at pretending one is dreaming and therefore is more lax about work/school/etc.

thoughts? comparisons to other methods?

Hi Dareloth, I'm a natural and I find that saying "I'm dreaming" etc stops my natural lucids etc alot, not entirely but I notice a decrease. I have tried it on and off a few times and each time I do it my natural experiments are indeed less. To be honest if I do nothing I have excellent lucid dreams and OBE's so that's what I do. Nothing lol. It may seem that if your a natural and try to force the issue the less you will succeed, yet if your not it seems to work. Glad you started this thread, I'm interested to see if any other naturals find the same happens for them. Take care :)

ah you lucky naturals! hopefully we will get some useful data.

The point of dream yoga is not to just say to yourself that you are dreaming all day long. It is to recognize that reality is a dream, it is a very spiritual practice that ties into Buddhism, basically you are pondering consciousness and focusing on your awareness of your environment at all times throughout the dream. So yes if you just tell yourself your dreaming all day long it will carry over into your dreams and you wont become lucid very easily. But if you notice your surroundings and their effect on your consciousness than that will carry over into your dreams and you will recognize when things are out of place and that you must be dreaming.

I like the idea of Dream Yoga however instead of saying that reality is a dream, I like to say that a dream is a different reality. :) (I guess Dream Yoga accept this view as well ) Allthough I agree that our reality is like a dream, but the word dream has other things associated to itself like blurry, limitless world, no rules etc. But what I mean when I say that reality is like a dream I mean that:

A dream is either just a real as our reality or our reality is just as unreal as a dream.

Also instead of saying during the day, that I want to become lucid, I am lucid. Lucid dreaming can be induced by a state of wanting - intention

But I prefer the state of being - awareness.

What you direct your intention to - you WANT. But what you direct your awareness to - you ARE. :meditate:

Don't wish what you want to be, BE what you want to be!

Dream Yoga isn't a method or technique. Like other Yoga (kundalini yoga for example), it is a way of life. So there is no success rate, you live Dream Yoga or you do not live it.

L4xord, on this forum, it's a technique. in the spiritual world you're absolutely right. and kundalini yoga as well, supposed to be spiritual but 90% of yoga classes out there have all but stripped this away. don't get me wrong, i'm a buddhist and dream yoga is buddhist so i'm not deliberately stripping it down, just saying: it is a technique to lucid dream one way or another.

actually an edit to the above: even in tibetan buddhism dream yoga is still supposed to induce lucid dreams! therefore it's still a technique even in it's original form. if someone is practicing it and is having no luck with it working on their dreams i guarantee they would talk to their guru about it.

kundalini yoga on the other hand is supposed to be deeply spiritual but many practice it for exercise only, zero spiritual value put into it which is a shame. at least with dream yoga you can't really practice it at all without the goal being a huge part of it's original purpose. even if you don't try to do it in that way you still are making an effort to be mindful which is the 7th step on the eightfold path and you're trying to see life as a dream which weakens grasping which is a key practice!

Most certainly! It is a shame the majority of Yoga have been stripped to the practicalities. Dream Yoga is a method to induce lucid dreams but it should not be thought as just that.

agreed! it's such a waste when people don't use these things to their full potential.