Thread: Dutchraptor's Deild Guide - Become an Ld god.

Originally Posted by bobberski

That's exactly what I expect to see! I can't get it out of my head so I'm scared that if I open my eyes I will see her lol.

Be happy it wasn't YOU she visited at 10 years old!. D:<
aha but no, if you see her, tell her she's an ugly hoe. She'l leave you be.

Originally Posted by VictoReverie

Hey Dutchraptor, for you personally, whats the probability that DEILD is successful if you wake up from a dream without moving?

The moment I started having them it was like 20% of all my attempts, now after a few months the success rate is around 80%.

Okay, gonna try again tonight. I can do this..
Post results in the morning. ^_^

erm, :/ Is all I can say.
I did my mantras, I believed, I still didn't wake up with awareness..
grrrr.

erm, :/ Is all I can say.
I did my mantras, I believed, I still didn't wake up with awareness..
grrrr.

^that sucks So I used the mantra "I will not move when I wake up" because it worked for me last time. It worked again last night, but I didn't get any vibrations or anything. Sleep paralysis didn't come so I just gave up. I ended up having 2 nightmares D:

Funny how you had nightmares bobberski, I had some too. In mine, My father was kidnapped by some men with guns after trying to fend them off, so I did everything I could to get guns and find my way to where the men took him, just before I could find my father I woke up, but the strange thing was, even though I knew I was awake, I still thought he was kidnapped and since I woke up, I would never see him again. Then I realized I was awake and it was all just a dream. I also somehow managed to cut my hand while I was sleeping..

Strange... Very strange.
Even though I wake up and usually don't move, my eyes shoot open so I end up being more awake. Which sucks, I've only felt SP twice, other than that I don't think I was in SP.

Hm.
Why doesn't Sleep paralysis occur for you? I dont think it occured for me the last time I nearly got a DEILD. Maybe wait more?

Maybe waiting more will work, but I think once you get to a certain point of being awake, it makes it that much more difficult to get yourself back asleep and it just becomes a WILD attempt.

YES!!! I just had my first DEILD! I'll post it later in the morning Just wanted to tell people for motivation, because I had dedicated myself exclusively to DEILD for 2 weeks, giving up the lucids i would have gotten from WBTB+MILD. Tonight I had felt like giving up when a couple of my DEILD attempts failed, but I was absolutely elated when I woke from a false awakening. No sleep paralysis, nothing o.O. As the dream ended, I calmly let the blackness engulf me and tried to DEILD again, but it didn't work this time. The best part was, I thought it was 6am (wake up time) when my lucid ended, but it was only 2.40 That means I can go for DEILD again now Back to sleep

BTW: A difference with this sucessful night was that i changed my mantra from "I will recognize when I wake up" to "I'm aware that the dream is ending". I believe the latter was more effective because alot of the times, when you are aware that you are awake, it is already too late. However tonight I did in fact recoginize when the dream was ending (only half a second before I woke) so I could ready myself for DEILD.

Good luck guys :

Originally Posted by HawkeyeTy

Funny how you had nightmares bobberski, I had some too. In mine, My father was kidnapped by some men with guns after trying to fend them off, so I did everything I could to get guns and find my way to where the men took him, just before I could find my father I woke up, but the strange thing was, even though I knew I was awake, I still thought he was kidnapped and since I woke up, I would never see him again. Then I realized I was awake and it was all just a dream. I also somehow managed to cut my hand while I was sleeping..

Strange... Very strange.
Even though I wake up and usually don't move, my eyes shoot open so I end up being more awake. Which sucks, I've only felt SP twice, other than that I don't think I was in SP.

Mine were about cannibals and zombies D: but it's strange how you cut your hand...

Originally Posted by VictoReverie

YES!!! I just had my first DEILD! I'll post it later in the morning Just wanted to tell people for motivation, because I had dedicated myself exclusively to DEILD for 2 weeks, giving up the lucids i would have gotten from WBTB+MILD. Tonight I had felt like giving up when a couple of my DEILD attempts failed, but I was absolutely elated when I woke from a false awakening. No sleep paralysis, nothing o.O. As the dream ended, I calmly let the blackness engulf me and tried to DEILD again, but it didn't work this time. The best part was, I thought it was 6am (wake up time) when my lucid ended, but it was only 2.40 That means I can go for DEILD again now Back to sleep

BTW: A difference with this sucessful night was that i changed my mantra from "I will recognize when I wake up" to "I'm aware that the dream is ending". I believe the latter was more effective because alot of the times, when you are aware that you are awake, it is already too late. However tonight I did in fact recoginize when the dream was ending (only half a second before I woke) so I could ready myself for DEILD.

Good luck guys :

Thats awesome man! I am also getting good at DEILD. When I get the hang of it more I got to start practicing stabilizing because I always forget to do it.

^
Very strange..
FREDDY CRUGER! ;O aha jk.
Gonna try DEILD again tonight.

No luck today. It's not because I forgot to not move oh no. It was my grandma that messed it up. Seriously she just walks into the living room (where I sleep) and just turns on the lights (even though its the morning...) and turns on the tv at a loud volume. I remembered to wake and not move but because of the lights and sound of the tv I failed. So I just went into my grandmas room to sleep but I didn't care about doing a DEILD then because I was pissed off.

Originally Posted by Daredevilpwn

No luck today. It's not because I forgot to not move oh no. It was my grandma that messed it up. Seriously she just walks into the living room (where I sleep) and just turns on the lights (even though its the morning...) and turns on the tv at a loud volume. I remembered to wake and not move but because of the lights and sound of the tv I failed. So I just went into my grandmas room to sleep but I didn't care about doing a DEILD then because I was pissed off.

Awwww i'm sorry mate. damn ol' grandma! aha.

Originally Posted by bobberski

Mine were about cannibals and zombies D: but it's strange how you cut your hand...

I remember in the dream I was scaling up the side of a house to a window, and I grabbed onto the gutter, it must have been when I cut my hand while I was sleeping. Anything that happens to you while you sleep can effect your dreams. For instance, one time I had a dream where I was getting tasered and I could feel the electricity/vibrations in my shoulders, then I woke up and realized I was laying on my arm and it was asleep. It was pretty interesting.

Dutchraptor-

In your first post you said that you should use autosuggestion until you lose focus and do this two or so more times. In addition to imagining yourself performing the technique, has this been enough for you to consistently remember to wake up without movement? I ask because I have had trouble in the past with having a conscious awakening after my alarm goes off; I just ended up moving before remembering what my plan was. I plan on trying your method of autosuggestion tonight, but in the meantime I was just wondering if this method worked consistently for you and those you taught.

Thank you

Originally Posted by DinoSawr

Dutchraptor-

In your first post you said that you should use autosuggestion until you lose focus and do this two or so more times. In addition to imagining yourself performing the technique, has this been enough for you to consistently remember to wake up without movement? I ask because I have had trouble in the past with having a conscious awakening after my alarm goes off; I just ended up moving before remembering what my plan was. I plan on trying your method of autosuggestion tonight, but in the meantime I was just wondering if this method worked consistently for you and those you taught.

Thank you

Hey dinosawr,
I first started with an alarm clock to wake me up and then I tried mantras for a long while but they weren't to great for me, yet after I stopped for three days about two months ago I started walking up right before a dream ends and I can sense what to do straight away, it's like second nature to me now. I don't know whether the autosuggestion or the alarm clock helped more but it definitely worked.

I'm still failing. What's wrong with me..
Maybe I should change my mantras.

I managed to deild today but man oh man it was a horrible experience. I had to struggle to roll out from my body. Then when I got up my dreamscape was all stretchy and blurry and just plain crazy looking. Yelling 'clarity now' didn't work and I couldn't concentrate to try to stabilize so I closed my eyes and just woke myself up. I know, stupid of me but I was not expecting to end up in this weird distorted place.

Originally Posted by Daredevilpwn

I managed to deild today but man oh man it was a horrible experience. I had to struggle to roll out from my body. Then when I got up my dreamscape was all stretchy and blurry and just plain crazy looking. Yelling 'clarity now' didn't work and I couldn't concentrate to try to stabilize so I closed my eyes and just woke myself up. I know, stupid of me but I was not expecting to end up in this weird distorted place.

You need to understand it's the dream world which can be manipulated. Walk to your bedroom door, and state "When I open this door, It will lead me into a random scenario." If it happens again

I know I know. I was just freaked out at first. Like it was one of those 'WTF!' moments that I didn't know what to do. Thanks for the tip though. If something weird happens again I will do this.

I failed again..
Why can't I do this technique anymore?
This is very illogical.
I did it a few days ago, can't do it now?
I mean...WHAT?!.
:'(

Originally Posted by LucidRaider

I failed again..
Why can't I do this technique anymore?
This is very illogical.
I did it a few days ago, can't do it now?
I mean...WHAT?!.
:'(

Keep trying. Eventually you will get good at it even if it takes three or four months, it will be worth it.