Thread: Yuppie's DEILD guide - The easiest way to lucid dream.

Originally Posted by fogelbise

I am not well versed on DEILDs yet, but I would say that you do not have to wake up "in the middle" of a dream...the way it has worked for me is waking up at what feels like the end or fading of an interesting non-lucid or a lucid dream(which are always interesting)...basically, upon exiting the dream. After an interesting regular dream or after a lucid is probably the easiest way but there are other ways through practice apparently. From other people's accounts it can be done on a "regular" basis. By "it's just void," do you mean your memory of the dream is void? And if you are trying to wake up from the dream, do you mean during the dream you are trying to wake up and that you are aware that you are dreaming while dreaming (lucid)?

Chillen, I will let you know when I try it again. I didn't try to do anything but get a good night's sleep last night.

I mean, when I put my alarm to especific times, when I wake up, I don't remember any dream at all (that was the void I was refering). Probably I didn't hit the REM state whit my alarm. Because when we wake up in the middle of a REM phase, we always remember the dream we were having, correct?.
I was thinking: if only setting the intentions doesn't work, the alarm method could work.

Myonly problem with that until now was falling asleep in the right time to make the calculation to set the alarm. I worry to much with my sleep and because of that I can't fall asleep at the right time : D

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

I'm not generally one to advocate the use of alarm clocks, because I feel they're too disruptive, when your main goal is to fall straight back to sleep. However, one shoe doesn't fit all, so you should just play around and see what works out. As you outlined, you can simply use mantra's to implement the idea of waking up, which is how I do it. You seem to be very nervous and unsure, just give it a shot to the best of your ability, and see what happens!
Tell me how it goes.

I will try to set my intention, but if that does not work, I will use the alarm. There are alarms that are not to agressive (like vibration or just one tiny sound) and shut themselves

P.S - Someone knows why when I make more that two quotes, they don't appear on the same ''answer'' ? Thank you

Originally Posted by Thinknow

I worry to much with my sleep and because of that I can't fall asleep at the right time : D

Worry can bushwhack dreams.... I get paid monthly, My best dreams come when the bills are all paid. That's why if I have not nailed a task of the month in the first week erso i'm going to go wingless for the rest of it. By the end of the month I'm and worry sets in and dreaming lucid or not goes right out the window...

Originally Posted by woblybil

Worry can bushwhack dreams.... I get paid monthly, My best dreams come when the bills are all paid. That's why if I have not nailed a task of the month in the first week erso i'm going to go wingless for the rest of it. By the end of the month I'm and worry sets in and dreaming lucid or not goes right out the window...

A correlation between stress and lucid dreaming, perhaps?

Thought I would update my progress.

I've had some DILD's and DEILD's since my last post here. Nothing that has lasted long unfortunately.
I had my first proper DEILD struggle, as I call it. I must of only just been conscious or struggling to get the scene to become clear, as I could only feel sensations of body contact at some points and even heard voices.

I was in the bed (I was at a friends house) and I heard an ex call out my name, and I responded with ''Yeah...?'', but I said it out loud from my waking body lol.. I then could feel her in the bed, pushing my legs away, as if I was in her way. I felt blind through out most of the time in the dream. Could have this been because I was closing my eyes in the dream? or could have my sleep mask be blinding me?

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

Thought I would update my progress.


I was in the bed (I was at a friends house) and I heard an ex call out my name, and I responded with ''Yeah...?'', but I said it out loud from my waking body lol.. I then could feel her in the bed, pushing my legs away, as if I was in her way. I felt blind through out most of the time in the dream. Could have this been because I was closing my eyes in the dream? or could have my sleep mask be blinding me?

An RC might have answered the question for you...Sounds like a false awakening, They're sneaky that way

Originally Posted by woblybil

An RC might have answered the question for you...Sounds like a false awakening, They're sneaky that way

I knew I was dreaming. I was just having a problem with seeing, as my vision was coming and going, but mainly poor through out the process. I think I was half in half out of the dream, probably should have relaxed and focused on visualising the dream to make it clearer.

I'll learn from this, that's for sure

Check out dream blindness in this podcast

http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews...-sleepers.html

Originally Posted by fogelbise

Check out dream blindness in this podcast

http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews...-sleepers.html

Thanks man!

I was hoping that pod cast would help my situation. I'm up to the WILD DEILD episode.

Loving the pod casts.

Would be great if they had some of the legendary posters as guests.

Wow, I almost forgot to record my Rabbit DEILD,
Its over here. http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/wobl...t-demon-51092/

That's a dope dream.

There were several similar deild's only a minute erso long half waking between then starting over..

Originally Posted by woblybil

Wow, I almost forgot to record my Rabbit DEILD,
Its over here. http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/wobl...t-demon-51092/

That was freakin' cool!

Someone can characterize me the dream entry phase and give me some useful tips on how to enter in the dream consciously? I've already tried DEILD once with alarm and I felt like I was being swalowed into the dream like a whirlwind, but after that I tought about the dream and nothing happened

Originally Posted by Thinknow

Someone can characterize me the dream entry phase and give me some useful tips on how to enter in the dream consciously? I've already tried DEILD once with alarm and I felt like I was being swalowed into the dream like a whirlwind, but after that I tought about the dream and nothing happened

Considering you have only tried it once, and had some sensations of being swallowed into a dream, I would just stick at what you're doing for at least a week. If nothing is working, just stick to the basics and continue thinking of the dream you had just had, upon awakening. I've made mistakes of trying too many different things, instead of sticking to one thing at a time.

Good luck Thinknow, and hopefully you make progress. Let us know how things go

Hey guys.

Thinknow:

Make sure you're doing the mantra's, and you're remaining calm enough to allow yourself to transition.
Let me know how it goes!

On some nights I am able to chain so many lucid dreams together that I can hardly remember all of them. So sometimes if the dream I just had was nice and meaningful I decide to move and write the dream down. I guess there is no way around that.

Either another dream and maybe forgetting the first one or writing the dream down and less of a chance for another lucid dream. Does anyone have a technique to better remember a dream? I try to remember only keywords, but even that is hard sometimes.

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Hey guys.

Thinknow:

Make sure you're doing the mantra's, and you're remaining calm enough to allow yourself to transition.
Let me know how it goes!

I'm doing with a alarm. I tried again today and did not work, no feeling, just felt asleep seconds later.
I went to bed a little later yesterday, so, maybe I missed REM. I have to me more disciplined. I have to make the calculation to see if the reason was timing.
Remaining calm, yes, I will continue to do that : D

Originally Posted by Loooo

On some nights I am able to chain so many lucid dreams together that I can hardly remember all of them. So sometimes if the dream I just had was nice and meaningful I decide to move and write the dream down. I guess there is no way around that.

Either another dream and maybe forgetting the first one or writing the dream down and less of a chance for another lucid dream. Does anyone have a technique to better remember a dream? I try to remember only keywords, but even that is hard sometimes.

There's some really great information on recall on this forum. This thread looks really good, it will help dream recall compendiuml. I've never tried this personally, but try and recall your previous lucid chains within a dream? Don't know what effect it will give you, but worth ago! Next time I'm DEILD Chaning I will try it out for sure.

Originally Posted by Loooo

On some nights I am able to chain so many lucid dreams together that I can hardly remember all of them. So sometimes if the dream I just had was nice and meaningful I decide to move and write the dream down. I guess there is no way around that.

Either another dream and maybe forgetting the first one or writing the dream down and less of a chance for another lucid dream. Does anyone have a technique to better remember a dream? I try to remember only keywords, but even that is hard sometimes.

You can try repeating a few key words to yourself at the beginning of the next LD and/or bring an element of the previous dream into the next one. If it was one you don't want to forget at any cost, then definitely wake up & write. If it was average why not practice chaining together the memory and/or elements as well. It can also come back to you sometimes by going down a list of common elements until it jogs your memory hopefully. Also one of my almost forgotten ones was a FA...put that on your checklist as these seem to often be forgotten as they fool us into thinking we were just going through a normal waking and getting ready routine.

Originally Posted by Loooo

On some nights I am able to chain so many lucid dreams together that I can hardly remember all of them. So sometimes if the dream I just had was nice and meaningful I decide to move and write the dream down. I guess there is no way around that.

Either another dream and maybe forgetting the first one or writing the dream down and less of a chance for another lucid dream. Does anyone have a technique to better remember a dream? I try to remember only keywords, but even that is hard sometimes.

Some people buy a cheap tape recorder so they can awaken briefly, say a few words, and execute a DEILD, then eventually wake up and record.

Fallen off the wagon a little. Have been forgetting to DEILD when I have my short awakening.

I sleep about 10 hours a night so I can set multiple alarms. Going to go back to my old ways and use the alarm which reminds me to attempt a DEILD. Hopefully I can get back into the swing of things.

How's everyone else going?

Okay, I think I'll try this one, thanks for the great guide Yuppie!

Originally Posted by ProudasaPeacock

Okay, I think I'll try this one, thanks for the great guide Yuppie!

Best of luck man!
Tell me how it goes.