Thread: Yuppie's DEILD guide - The easiest way to lucid dream.

Things are not going very well on my sidenote.

I cant get to it just waking up on my bed, i aint that good with visualization but when i use it nothing happen. And my heartbeat aint taking the leading role all the time and i dont see it as the biggest fault, i may be waking up after my rem is over? And not in it?

I need some magic guys, i dont think ive ever been close.

Originally Posted by CosmicMember44

Things are not going very well on my sidenote.

I cant get to it just waking up on my bed, i aint that good with visualization but when i use it nothing happen. And my heartbeat aint taking the leading role all the time and i dont see it as the biggest fault, i may be waking up after my rem is over? And not in it?

I need some magic guys, i dont think ive ever been close.

How long have you been trying to DEILD?

I'm assuming your waking up with your eyes closed and not moving at all?

I've been trying to DEILD for about 4 days now, I've come close but still haven't got it yet.

One thing that may help you is, when you awaken with your eyes closed and not moving, do your visualizing, if that fails, roll over with eyes closed and maybe your body will trigger to fall sleep? It happened to me tonight, but I must have been to groggy to complete the DEILD.

Depending on how long you have been trying with Yuppies tutorial, if you're not getting anywhere after some time, maybe start experimenting. This tutorial might need some tweaking for you.

Good luck man! Don't give up!

Originally Posted by woblybil

I didn't mention that I wake up every 90 minutes anyways......

Cool Cool, no probs.

You wake up every 90 mins naturally?

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

Cool Cool, no probs.

You wake up every 90 mins naturally?

I started it with a Mantra a long time ago and now I cant stop it short of a gulp of Nyquil which makes me sleep all night but murders recall and I walk around zombie-fied half of the next day........

Thanks CHILLEN AU i will try and test it out.
I dont know about Yuppies guide. Most deild guides have about the same layout but focuses on some particular way of transitioning.

I was just feeling like i was not getting some parts of the technique down right.
I will be back with something new.

And yes i can wake up still and eyes closed
;/

Originally Posted by woblybil

I started it with a Mantra a long time ago and now I cant stop it short of a gulp of Nyquil which makes me sleep all night but murders recall and I walk around zombie-fied half of the next day........

I will be wary of what I wish for in Mantras haha

Originally Posted by CosmicMember44

Thanks CHILLEN AU i will try and test it out.
I dont know about Yuppies guide. Most deild guides have about the same layout but focuses on some particular way of transitioning.

I was just feeling like i was not getting some parts of the technique down right.
I will be back with something new.

And yes i can wake up still and eyes closed
;/

Keep on keeping on dude, I'm sure you'll find something that works for you eventually.

Stay positive, and you will succeed Let us all know things progress man.

Going well guys.
Keep at it, it sounds like you're making progress!
Tell me how it goes

An update,

I achieved a DEILD. I'm so pumped right now.. I couldn't believe how easy it was for me.

I went out and bought myself a sleeping mask to help with keeping the day light out of my vision, and to also aid in keeping my eyes closed.

It was a weird night to say the least. I was laying in bed and I heard foot steps that sounded exactly like dog foot steps. I was tripping a little, cause I knew Rex (My dog) was under the blankets in my bedroom. I thought to myself, maybe it's my other dog that passed away earlier this year, and that he may have been a spirit/ghost now. I felt something jump up onto the bed at the back of me. I stayed still and eventually put my hand under the blankets to check if Rex was under the blankets, and he was.

WTF was that about lol? Could it have been a false awakening? Sleep Paralysis?

Anyways, I woke up later that morning again. I stayed completely still, with my eyes closed. I started to see out of my eyes, into my bedroom. I knew this wasn't right, as I had a sleeping mask on. I lost the vision, so I zoned out again to bring on the visions, and it worked. I focused on the vivid scene of my room, and noticed speckles through out my vision. I figured it was time to try and transition into the dream, so I urged myself to get my dream body up and it worked! I checked both hands, and each hand had 6 fingers.

My penis got the better of me, and I couldn't help myself but to imagine a nice looking chick In my bedroom as I walked back in there. The rest is history lol.

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

An update,


My penis got the better of me, and I couldn't help myself but to imagine a nice looking chick In my bedroom as I walked back in there. The rest is history lol.

See there Yuppie, I'm not alone

Oh yeah, When you gonna get back to winging it again ?...This one otter pass with flying colors.....

Fail #1
(The Dream) I first noticed I was dreaming when I was landing an airplane that looked like it was built by Fred & Barney with most of the important dodads missing and they

http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/wobl...-fail-1-50453/

I thought I would be first but no, Somebody beat me already ...
9/04 I hope a girls beach changing house will do
3:30am For the sake of the task I figured it would be easy to raid the beach house at a state park lake where I used to work part time, It seemed as soon as my head hit the pillow

http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/wobl...ls-side-50454/

Originally Posted by woblybil

See there Yuppie, I'm not alone

Haha! I'm like a freakin' dog on heat.

Lets see if I can try and complete my tasks next time lol!

Don't do anything too productive guys
Not like there's anything else to do in Lucid's but bang hot chicks!

Dude, congratulations by the way.
False awakenings are often a common associate of DEILD's. Not to mention, what you detailed above is a classic case of HH.
I always experience this kind of stuff when I'm DEILD-ing. (Pulsating vibrations, footsteps, noises, etc.)

CHILLEN AU

How is that possible?!

Is it because you have previous dreaming experience?

You do remember your dreams pretty good i believe.
Did you have to visualize? And are you any good at that?

What made it feel that easy and did you not feel any groggy?

I gratulate you man.
But man that was fast... 3-5 weeks?

I've woken up many times after a dream had ended and never have i still been so connected to my dream. As you saw your room clearly through the sleep mask.
Or did you get lucid right at the end of the dream like the original easier method?

I have had a few DEILDs. I just use it when I think about it but I plan to use MILD to make DEILD a regular part of my strategy.

CosmicMember44, Hej! I feel for you man. Are you doing anything else on a daily basis to supplement your DEILD attempts? Like MILD,
WBTB, self awareness?

Originally Posted by CosmicMember44

CHILLEN AU

How is that possible?!

Is it because you have previous dreaming experience?

You do remember your dreams pretty good i believe.
Did you have to visualize? And are you any good at that?

What made it feel that easy and did you not feel any groggy?

I gratulate you man.
But man that was fast... 3-5 weeks?

I've woken up many times after a dream had ended and never have i still been so connected to my dream. As you saw your room clearly through the sleep mask.
Or did you get lucid right at the end of the dream like the original easier method?

How is it possible that I had a DEILD after such a short time of trying, you mean? I had been trying for 4 or so days before I achieved it.

I've had previous dreaming experience from 3 or so years ago (only did lucid dreaming for a couple of months back then), but only focused on DILD and WBTB+Rhythm Napping. I tried to WBTB+WILD with no luck, I'm not the WILD'ing type I think. A lot of my DILD's were from random RC's, because I did them a lot during the day, maybe 1 every 5-10 mins (Not recommended, probably a bad thing to just do RC's all the time, without really questioning reality, as I did)

My dream recall is decent, but could be better! Some mornings good, some average.

I have poor visualizing skills. I can only hold images for a second or 2 in my head before my mind wanders, or the image breaks on me.

What made it quite easy was that the image just popped out in front of me. If I didn't have a sleep mask on, I would have thought I woke up. Maybe get yourself a sleeping mask (I bought a cheapo for $2), so you don't get fooled by thinking you have woke up.

I wasn't that groggy the first time, but I was super relaxed and could have fallen asleep easily if I tried. The first time I did the DEILD, I let myself zone out, as if I was about to sleep, for a second or two, which bought the vision back on. Once I saw the vision I focused on it until it was vivid, then I transitioned. I didn't get lucid at the end of any of my dreams before achieving the DEILD's.

I achieved another DEILD this morning, but I had to work for it. I woke up and tried to do the method I used with my previous method, which is zone out for a couple seconds to bring on any kind of image. Same thing happened but less vivid, I could see through my mask but only a little, the vision was poor. I forced myself into the scene and tried to get up. As I got up I floated back into my bed, so I tried again and it worked. I did a RC, and now was lucid. I woke up 10 seconds later cause I got a bit of a shock when I noticed a shadow walking towards me.

To tell you the truth. Both of my DEILD's have been from just waking up with my eyes closed and not moving (I think this mornings I may have even rolled over). I didn't even think of the dream I just had, all I did was try to fall asleep for a few seconds (zoning out), which bought on the image of seeing through my mask. My mask has pretty much helped me get both DEILD's. Both of my DEILD's were 2 days apart, so I'm hoping for a lot more to come, and I can share my experience a little more, which may help you.

I'll share a little story about me, which might give you some hope that almost anybody can lucid dream. I was born with an arachnoid cyst on my brain, this is a common thing, about %10 of people have them(which is harmless to them) but only a few of the unlucky ones get symptoms, like myself. I could be here forever explaining my symptoms, but a main one is concentration. I find it hard to follow convocation etc, or even repeat mantras. If I'm not putting 100% focus on what I'm saying in my mantras, Ill start saying the wrong shit lol. Reason why I'm telling you this, is because of my limitations to concentrating on a DEILD etc, you don't need a hell of a lot to achieve it. It's pretty simple once you do it. Don't give up my friend

I'm very passionate about LDing, because I want to strengthen my weaknesses, such as social skills, public speaking etc. Maybe my passion helps me? I'm not sure.
You seem like you're really wanting that first LD. so I'm assuming you're passionate about it, which is a good thing. Keep your confidence up. As soon as you get that first one under your belt, that will probably take your confidence to another level and you will get LD's more regularly.

WBTB w/ Rhythm Napping got me a LD on the first shot. Maybe try that to break your LDing drought?

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Don't do anything too productive guys
Not like there's anything else to do in Lucid's but bang hot chicks!

Dude, congratulations by the way.
False awakenings are often a common associate of DEILD's. Not to mention, what you detailed above is a classic case of HH.
I always experience this kind of stuff when I'm DEILD-ing. (Pulsating vibrations, footsteps, noises, etc.)

I totally agree lol. Once I start getting a few more LD's under my belt, i'll start focusing on other things lol. I'll promise myself, the next time I LD, I don't bang chicks

Thanks for answering about the HH etc, what a trip out.

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

I totally agree lol. Once I start getting a few more LD's under my belt, i'll start focusing on other things lol. I'll promise myself, the next time I LD, I don't bang chicks
.

Dont make promises you cant keep

I feel like i am missing out on something when i try to deild..

Fogelbise, i never used any other techniques in my deild attempts.
For me i see no need really dont see a reason for me to since i practice deild only for now.
Even if i i realized i was dreaming before the dream ended i would only wake up and stay still with my intention very clear in my mind.
I aint sure about wbtb i use it when i fail an attempt wake up go to the bathroom and back to bed.
Please tell me if i didnt write something down?

I already wake up still so i try only to visualize and hopefully something will come out of it.
But nope im missing out on something.

And CHILLEN AU thanks:-) and yes i do really want that deild which is why i wont give up on the the technique.

I do have a sleeping mask but i quit using it since i am not that good realizing the dream in the dream:*)
You give good evidence that you can make it out with a lucid without trying to work on it all that hard, and that made my day

But i still believe im missing out on some stuff.
It has to do something with the way i wake up im sure of it.
Ive never had any good results most of them here has. I dont understand why but before i tried to deild and when i finally did it i could already wake up still in early mornings i only practiced to be able to do it at night time too.:-S

Whatever, i think my body have already past by its rem sleep after i wake up that must be why i dont get any HH or anything else.

Originally Posted by CosmicMember44

I feel like i am missing out on something when i try to deild..

Whatever, i think my body have already past by its rem sleep after i wake up that must be why i dont get any HH or anything else.

Have you experimented with waking up by an alarm at random times that will turn off by it's self after a short moment? You may be right, you could be waking up after REM.

I do have a sleeping mask but i quit using it since i am not that good realizing the dream in the dream:*)

Now that you say that, I am too having a few issues now that I think about it. I've been moving around when I wake up, or maybe opening my eyes. For some reason, my success rate of not moving with eyes closed has gone down. Funny enough, I'm still getting DEILDS though, but just wonder if I go back to my old routine without the mask, I may get them easier?

Have you tried upon awakening, rolling over with eyes closed into a comfortable position, then focusing on the DEILD? I think one of my 2 DEILD's happened from doing that.

It's great that you're staying positive and putting your heart into achieving that first LD. Keep on trying my friend, you will get this.

Can someone give me advice on how to naturally wake after REM cycles? Even just a general tip for like WILD or WBTB would be awesome.

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Can someone give me advice on how to naturally wake after REM cycles? Even just a general tip for like WILD or WBTB would be awesome.

Have you tried using mantras before Tiresias?

I would suggest something on the lines of ''I awaken after every REM cycle''

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

Have you tried using mantras before Tiresias?

I would suggest something on the lines of ''I awaken after every REM cycle''

Ditto.. A simple mantra otter do it but be careful what you wish for, Now I wake after every dream and wish I didnt.
The only way I can sleep more than 90 minutes nowadays is by using some drug with a name I can't pronounce...

Originally Posted by woblybil

Ditto.. A simple mantra otter do it but be careful what you wish for, Now I wake after every dream and wish I didnt.
The only way I can sleep more than 90 minutes nowadays is by using some drug with a name I can't pronounce...

Have you tried reversing the mantra?

I guess no one that DEILD's etc want to not wake up during the night, but maybe experiment with some mantras that help you wake up less throughout the night?

Originally Posted by CosmicMember44

I feel like i am missing out on something when i try to deild..

Fogelbise, i never used any other techniques in my deild attempts.
For me i see no need really dont see a reason for me to since i practice deild only for now.
Even if i i realized i was dreaming before the dream ended i would only wake up and stay still with my intention very clear in my mind.

Cool...you are bound to succeed eventually... or is your lucid count=0 wrong? That last sentence above sounded like you have realized that you were dreaming towards the end of a dream and that would meet the definition of having a lucid dream.

I aint sure about wbtb i use it when i fail an attempt wake up go to the bathroom and back to bed.
Please tell me if i didnt write something down?

I already wake up still so i try only to visualize and hopefully something will come out of it.
But nope im missing out on something.

And CHILLEN AU thanks:-) and yes i do really want that deild which is why i wont give up on the the technique.

I do have a sleeping mask but i quit using it since i am not that good realizing the dream in the dream:*)
You give good evidence that you can make it out with a lucid without trying to work on it all that hard, and that made my day

But i still believe im missing out on some stuff.
It has to do something with the way i wake up im sure of it.
Ive never had any good results most of them here has. I dont understand why but before i tried to deild and when i finally did it i could already wake up still in early mornings i only practiced to be able to do it at night time too.:-S

Whatever, i think my body have already past by its rem sleep after i wake up that must be why i dont get any HH or anything else.