Thread: Yuppie's DEILD guide - The easiest way to lucid dream.

I've been trying with MILD and DILD for a month now with no success and I've been thinking about going down the WILD/DEILD path... Is it better to stick with MILD until I know what a LD feels like or is it ok to start with this even though I've never had a proper LD? (I've had two or three split second LDs).

Also, how long does SP last? That's the only thing that's been holding me back with WILD and DEILD. I'm not scared of it, I just want to know what to expect and how long I would be in that state. Thanks

Originally Posted by ShinyBlueStar

I've been trying with MILD and DILD for a month now with no success and I've been thinking about going down the WILD/DEILD path... Is it better to stick with MILD until I know what a LD feels like or is it ok to start with this even though I've never had a proper LD? (I've had two or three split second LDs).

Also, how long does SP last? That's the only thing that's been holding me back with WILD and DEILD. I'm not scared of it, I just want to know what to expect and how long I would be in that state. Thanks

No, it's fine, you can try DEILD without prior lucidity. Please do try it!
As for SP, it's just agonizing pain... kidding! Sleep Parlysis is actually rare in DEILD, because the transition from wake to sleep, is so fast. It does happen for some people, I personally have never experienced it, but most people describe it as a slightly scary, numb feeling. Kind of like having a dead arm, but with your whole body. Like everything else, you experience it, know what it's like, and you get used to it!
I hope this helps, It'd be great if you kept me informed with your results!

Ah I got myself results!!!
So last night I decided I needed to work on my dream recall, and then come back to this. So I repeated to myself that I would remember my dreams.

So I dreamt last night, and I woke up with my eyes closed! I tried to DEILD, but it just wouldn't happen lol, I believe I was trying too hard like you said in a PM or something.
So I wrote down my dream and went back to bed.

Then, I had another dream that was a lot longer. In the dream I noticed something weird, and became aware I was dreaming. I was able to stay in the dream a bit longer, but when I tried to fly through the roof, I got stuck halfway and woke up. But when I woke up, I had my eyes closed and I was perfectly still! At that point I decided to attempt a DEILD. I thought of the dream and where it was located, but I couldn't think of other things like smell because I didn't have a smell in my dream. I started to feel my entire body vibrating, or going numb, sort of like when your foot or hand goes to sleep, but not bad. I actually think that feeling was very calming and relaxing. Anyway, I guess I was trying too hard because after a while, I was still in the partial SP phase, and then it went away.

So tonight was great! I had an LD and I found I could wake up without moving or opening my eyes. The one thing I noticed was that I only became aware of waking up after a dream, when I woke up remembering it! I also found that I didn't have to use mantras to become aware of waking up, after about a week or maybe more of repeating the mantras! With a little bit of practice each night, I should get up to the point where I am getting successful DEILDs.

Thank you so much Yuppie!

Originally Posted by DragonMaster21

Ah I got myself results!!!
So last night I decided I needed to work on my dream recall, and then come back to this. So I repeated to myself that I would remember my dreams.

So I dreamt last night, and I woke up with my eyes closed! I tried to DEILD, but it just wouldn't happen lol, I believe I was trying too hard like you said in a PM or something.
So I wrote down my dream and went back to bed.

Then, I had another dream that was a lot longer. In the dream I noticed something weird, and became aware I was dreaming. I was able to stay in the dream a bit longer, but when I tried to fly through the roof, I got stuck halfway and woke up. But when I woke up, I had my eyes closed and I was perfectly still! At that point I decided to attempt a DEILD. I thought of the dream and where it was located, but I couldn't think of other things like smell because I didn't have a smell in my dream. I started to feel my entire body vibrating, or going numb, sort of like when your foot or hand goes to sleep, but not bad. I actually think that feeling was very calming and relaxing. Anyway, I guess I was trying too hard because after a while, I was still in the partial SP phase, and then it went away.

So tonight was great! I had an LD and I found I could wake up without moving or opening my eyes. The one thing I noticed was that I only became aware of waking up after a dream, when I woke up remembering it! I also found that I didn't have to use mantras to become aware of waking up, after about a week or maybe more of repeating the mantras! With a little bit of practice each night, I should get up to the point where I am getting successful DEILDs.

Thank you so much Yuppie!

My pleasure! You must be really happy with that, that's amazing progress!
The vibrating thing is a really cool experience, right?! I loved it!

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

My pleasure! You must be really happy with that, that's amazing progress!
The vibrating thing is a really cool experience, right?! I loved it!

Yes, its awesome! I just need to improve my dream recall .

I'm on a bit of a dryspell now, but I think I've figured out how to sort of train your DEILDing ability (after you've learned to wake up conciously and stay still ofcourse). If you fall back asleep non-lucid, be more actively aware while visualizing. If you can't get back to sleep and stay awake, be less actively aware. I think it's all about that balance. Perhaps I'm kind of stating the obvious, but I only just really thought about that, and perhaps this helps others as well

Originally Posted by Spyguy

I'm on a bit of a dryspell now, but I think I've figured out how to sort of train your DEILDing ability (after you've learned to wake up conciously and stay still ofcourse). If you fall back asleep non-lucid, be more actively aware while visualizing. If you can't get back to sleep and stay awake, be less actively aware. I think it's all about that balance. Perhaps I'm kind of stating the obvious, but I only just really thought about that, and perhaps this helps others as well

No, this is a really good point! It's definetely all about balance, and it really varies from person to person. I need to focus more on staying aware, than getting to sleep, which I think is the better of the two

Well, I'm getting closer. Oh and for the results the other night (sorry I did not post them...) I didn't wake up at all.
BUT, I used the "I will remember my dreams" mantra like DragonMaster did above, because I was also working on my recall. I woke up 2 times in the night, remembering that I had dreams before I woke up! So I guess that mantra is good for both recall and DEILDing. Oh and when I did wake up, I moved without realizing. Gotta work on that lol.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Well, I'm getting closer. Oh and for the results the other night (sorry I did not post them...) I didn't wake up at all.
BUT, I used the "I will remember my dreams" mantra like DragonMaster did above, because I was also working on my recall. I woke up 2 times in the night, remembering that I had dreams before I woke up! So I guess that mantra is good for both recall and DEILDing. Oh and when I did wake up, I moved without realizing. Gotta work on that lol.

Ya. Did you find that the only times you woke up were when you remembered your dreams beforehand?

Originally Posted by DragonMaster21

Ya. Did you find that the only times you woke up were when you remembered your dreams beforehand?

Pretty much yes. Trying the mantras again tonight, willing for a lucid.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Pretty much yes. Trying the mantras again tonight, willing for a lucid.

I wish I could work on this tonight, but I am driving up with my dad to his condo tonight at like eight, and it takes about wish hours to get up to my condo. Usually I go to bed at 8:30 because that is when I am not extremely tired, but not too awake, and in between. I'll be getting up there around 10 so I will probably be too tired to wake up at all during the night :/.

Anyways, good luck tonight!

Sydney - That's great progrss! YOu can't expect to have everything in the one night ;P
And yeah, matra's are amazing!

Dragon - Nice, tell me how it goes!

I have done this before to induce lucid dreams but was unaware that it was a specific technique. I read about it last night and put it to the test, it worked quite well. Nice tutorial

Well I hope everything works out for you! Good luck to you as well

Eh, no luck. I woke up at different times this time. I went to bed at 9:15 the day before (when I reported waking up) and 9:15 last night. But last night I woke up at 1 instead of 12, and 2:30 instead of 2.
It's weird, because when I'm fully aware that I have woken up, I'm in mid-movement.
So still working on that it seems. :/

When I'm aware that I'm awake, it's normally when I JUST wake up

I'm annoyed right now. I am at my dads condo, and I have to share a room with my two sisters and it sucks... Usually I go to bed at 8:30-8:45 and get some recall, etc. I got to bed at 9:15 last night because my sisters wouldn't go to sleep . I remembered a bunch of fragments of dreams, but couldn't take my computer out to write them down otherwise it would have woken up my sisters . Then I remembered right at the end of one dream I randomly decided to do an RC, and when I knew I was dreaming I thought "Wow, that was all one dream?" I did wake up a couple times with my eyes closed, but not perfectly still. Last night it seemed as if all my dreams were light and not good dreams, so when I woke up I would sit up or flail my arms or something D:. I can only get good results to attempt to DEILD if I go to bed at 8:30, but it is impossible at my dads house, unless I want to get woken up right after I fall asleep .

hey yuppie, ive been trying LD'ing for about 2 weeks now and ive only really had one slight lucid dream where, i realised i was dreaming and i woke up due to over exitment. But recently i manually woke up in the middle of a bad dream (closed my eyes hard and breathed in fast, ive done this in bad dreams since i was a kid) and i decided to re-enter the bad dream in a concious state, so while i was entering the dream world while maintaining conciousness i started to hear people talking and cars driving by (i wasnt scared) but as soon as i realised i was falling a sleep i got soo exited that i decided to try and stableise (even though i could not even see the dream world, i could only hear it) so as i rubbed my hands together in the dream world i started to get this extremly tingeling sensation run through my entire body and i woke up. Was this a form of DEILD because it kind of worked for me and thats one of the closest to a LD ive been, and wth was that "tingeling sensation"? i would really apprechiate if somebody responded, thanks

Originally Posted by JoshGoldie

hey yuppie, ive been trying LD'ing for about 2 weeks now and ive only really had one slight lucid dream where, i realised i was dreaming and i woke up due to over exitment. But recently i manually woke up in the middle of a bad dream (closed my eyes hard and breathed in fast, ive done this in bad dreams since i was a kid) and i decided to re-enter the bad dream in a concious state, so while i was entering the dream world while maintaining conciousness i started to hear people talking and cars driving by (i wasnt scared) but as soon as i realised i was falling a sleep i got soo exited that i decided to try and stableise (even though i could not even see the dream world, i could only hear it) so as i rubbed my hands together in the dream world i started to get this extremly tingeling sensation run through my entire body and i woke up. Was this a form of DEILD because it kind of worked for me and thats one of the closest to a LD ive been, and wth was that "tingeling sensation"? i would really apprechiate if somebody responded, thanks

Hey JoshGoldie! Let me start off by saying having your first lucid dream in just two weeks is amazing! And it's normal to wake up in excitement, your first time, this happend to me, and undoubtedly many others
This is a great effort also, for such a short period of time, it loks like you're going to be a natural!
I'd say this was more of an attempted DEILD, to be frank, you didn't succesfully ENTER the dream, but it's still a great first attempt. I suggest waiting a bit longer next time, before stabalizing. You'll know for sure when it's time. As for the tingling sensation, we normally experience hallucinations when we try DILD, or WILD (which is a variation of DEILD)
Because we're in such sleep, hazy states. It's completely natural
Good luck! If you have any questions please ask, you're doing great!

Originally Posted by JoshGoldie

hey yuppie, ive been trying LD'ing for about 2 weeks now and ive only really had one slight lucid dream where, i realised i was dreaming and i woke up due to over exitment. But recently i manually woke up in the middle of a bad dream (closed my eyes hard and breathed in fast, ive done this in bad dreams since i was a kid) and i decided to re-enter the bad dream in a concious state, so while i was entering the dream world while maintaining conciousness i started to hear people talking and cars driving by (i wasnt scared) but as soon as i realised i was falling a sleep i got soo exited that i decided to try and stableise (even though i could not even see the dream world, i could only hear it) so as i rubbed my hands together in the dream world i started to get this extremly tingeling sensation run through my entire body and i woke up. Was this a form of DEILD because it kind of worked for me and thats one of the closest to a LD ive been, and wth was that "tingeling sensation"? i would really apprechiate if somebody responded, thanks

I have also been able to wake up from bad dreams since I was a kid. I wonder if that is some kind of "Lucid Dreaming" where you know you are dreaming, and you are able to wake yourself up or something? Anyways, the tingling sensation is just Sleep Paralysis which always happens every night, but we are just asleep, so people usually don't ever feel it. That is the amazing thing about this; you get to experience things that only a small handful of people get to experience ever. I saw a statistic somewhere that said only 100,000 people in the US are capable of Lucid Dreaming. There are about 300,000,000 people in the United States so that is a very, very small fraction. I keep getting off track . Trust me, getting excited in your dreams will be a habit that will go away fast, unless you get excited really easy. In my second Lucid Dream (My last one I have had) I didn't even get excited at all. It didn't mean I wasn't excited to be dreaming, I just didn't get really excited like I did in my first LD. You got further than me on your first DEILD attempt! I didn't get to falling back asleep quite yet. Like what yuppie said, wait until you are in your dream to stabilize, etc. I find that when I tried to WILD and the two times I have been able to try to DEILD, I found the tingle sensation awesome! I also was able to attempt to DEILD last night, but I only got as far as I did my first time where I was tingling (Still finding that balance!). Its very good that you were able to start reentering your dream on your first try. Anyways, good luck! I'm sure that your second Lucid Dream is coming very soon because my second came about five days after my first one. Good luck with LDing and DEILDing, and I hope that you are very successful!

Uggg. I just got sick Sunday, and it sucks. My dream recall currently is a couple words from my dream. No visuals, nothing, just words. When I wake up at night, I can't attempt to DEILD because my throat hurts and I start coughing. I guess I will have to wait until I get better for more dreams .

Hey DragonMaster, do you still use the mantra "I will remember my dreams" when attempting to DEILD?
Just wondering. Seems like your getting good results.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Hey DragonMaster, do you still use the mantra "I will remember my dreams" when attempting to DEILD?
Just wondering. Seems like your getting good results.

Hi! I do still use the mantra, but not really for attempting to DEILD. I guess that thats a part of it, I just say that to myself when I go to bed. When I remember my dreams, I almost 100% wake up in the perfect position to DEILD. I haven't been able to remember much dreams lately though, I just have been sick D: and my dream recall is terrible at the moment. I need to improve it . How is DEILDing going for you?

Thanks for asking, but not that great. I've not been waking up at good times. But when I do, I always move instantly!
Haha yeah my recall is not that great, either.
Oh well I'll try a different mantra tonight and post my results

Originally Posted by Sydney

Thanks for asking, but not that great. I've not been waking up at good times. But when I do, I always move instantly!
Haha yeah my recall is not that great, either.
Oh well I'll try a different mantra tonight and post my results

Ya, what I did was use the original mantras that yuppie had first suggested "I will be aware when I wake up from a dream", which led me to waking up during the night. Once I got that, I used the mantra "I will completely stay still with my eyes closed when I wake up", which didn't ever work. I decided then that I needed to work on my recall, so the first night I did that, I was waking up perfectly still with my eyes closed.