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I really like your guide! After 2 days of attempting, finally got my second DEILD. :D
But that was about.. 3 days ago. Now I've hit a road block. I use the mantras, but the only times I wake up are when my WBTB alarm goes off, and my "wake up for the day" alarm goes off.
Any tips?
Thanks for the post! I'm glad to hear you've had success :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sydney
Well, another person came to me with the same problem, I suggested he use mantra's to realise when he wakes up. Like "I will be aware when I awake" or "I will wake up to DEILD."
He was succesful after using the mantra :)
The main thing is, to be confident, and know that you DO wake up several times when you're sleeping. But this has been happening since you were born, so your brain naturally doesn't recall it or catch on to it!
Tell me how it goes! Good luck :)
Oh yeah! That makes sense. I guess we just don't realize when we are awake at times during the night. :)
Thanks!
I'll post my results tomorrow :)
So I have been very successful in this lately as in waking up throughout the night, etc. The problem is, my recall sucks! It used to be good. I could remember two dreams a night, and then I had a sleepover and now I don't remember anything :panic:. I can only remember the rare dream or parts of a fragment of a dream. I decided, that I am going to take a break from this, work on my recall, and start being able to remember my dreams. After I get my recall to a sufficient level, I will revisit this and work on it.
Thanks for all of your help, and don't worry, I will be back :D
I've been trying with MILD and DILD for a month now with no success and I've been thinking about going down the WILD/DEILD path... Is it better to stick with MILD until I know what a LD feels like or is it ok to start with this even though I've never had a proper LD? (I've had two or three split second LDs).
Also, how long does SP last? That's the only thing that's been holding me back with WILD and DEILD. I'm not scared of it, I just want to know what to expect and how long I would be in that state. Thanks :D
No, it's fine, you can try DEILD without prior lucidity. Please do try it! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyBlueStar
As for SP, it's just agonizing pain... kidding! Sleep Parlysis is actually rare in DEILD, because the transition from wake to sleep, is so fast. It does happen for some people, I personally have never experienced it, but most people describe it as a slightly scary, numb feeling. Kind of like having a dead arm, but with your whole body. Like everything else, you experience it, know what it's like, and you get used to it!
I hope this helps, It'd be great if you kept me informed with your results!
Yeah, DEILD can kill your recall a bit, not going to lie. I actually spent a week JUST on recall, and then focused on DEILD. Because while using/attempting the techniuqe, you don't get the chance to write your dreams down. What you're doing is a good idea, try to be as detailed as possible in your journalling. What where they wearing, e.t.c. Really improves my recall for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonMaster21
Ah I got myself results!!!
So last night I decided I needed to work on my dream recall, and then come back to this. So I repeated to myself that I would remember my dreams.
So I dreamt last night, and I woke up with my eyes closed! I tried to DEILD, but it just wouldn't happen lol, I believe I was trying too hard like you said in a PM or something.
So I wrote down my dream and went back to bed.
Then, I had another dream that was a lot longer. In the dream I noticed something weird, and became aware I was dreaming. I was able to stay in the dream a bit longer, but when I tried to fly through the roof, I got stuck halfway and woke up. But when I woke up, I had my eyes closed and I was perfectly still! At that point I decided to attempt a DEILD. I thought of the dream and where it was located, but I couldn't think of other things like smell because I didn't have a smell in my dream. I started to feel my entire body vibrating, or going numb, sort of like when your foot or hand goes to sleep, but not bad. I actually think that feeling was very calming and relaxing. Anyway, I guess I was trying too hard because after a while, I was still in the partial SP phase, and then it went away.
So tonight was great! I had an LD and I found I could wake up without moving or opening my eyes. The one thing I noticed was that I only became aware of waking up after a dream, when I woke up remembering it! I also found that I didn't have to use mantras to become aware of waking up, after about a week or maybe more of repeating the mantras! With a little bit of practice each night, I should get up to the point where I am getting successful DEILDs.
Thank you so much Yuppie!
I'm on a bit of a dryspell now, but I think I've figured out how to sort of train your DEILDing ability (after you've learned to wake up conciously and stay still ofcourse). If you fall back asleep non-lucid, be more actively aware while visualizing. If you can't get back to sleep and stay awake, be less actively aware. I think it's all about that balance. Perhaps I'm kind of stating the obvious, but I only just really thought about that, and perhaps this helps others as well ;)
My pleasure! You must be really happy with that, that's amazing progress! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DragonMaster21
The vibrating thing is a really cool experience, right?! I loved it!
No, this is a really good point! It's definetely all about balance, and it really varies from person to person. I need to focus more on staying aware, than getting to sleep, which I think is the better of the two :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Spyguy
Well, I'm getting closer. Oh and for the results the other night (sorry I did not post them...) I didn't wake up at all. :(
BUT, I used the "I will remember my dreams" mantra like DragonMaster did above, because I was also working on my recall. I woke up 2 times in the night, remembering that I had dreams before I woke up! So I guess that mantra is good for both recall and DEILDing. :D Oh and when I did wake up, I moved without realizing. Gotta work on that lol.
Yes, its awesome! I just need to improve my dream recall :P.Quote:
Originally Posted by yuppie11975
Sydney - That's great progrss! YOu can't expect to have everything in the one night ;P
And yeah, matra's are amazing! :)
Dragon - Nice, tell me how it goes!
I have done this before to induce lucid dreams but was unaware that it was a specific technique. I read about it last night and put it to the test, it worked quite well. Nice tutorial :goodjob2:
Ya. Did you find that the only times you woke up were when you remembered your dreams beforehand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sydney
Pretty much yes. :) Trying the mantras again tonight, willing for a lucid.Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonMaster21
I wish I could work on this tonight, but I am driving up with my dad to his condo tonight at like eight, and it takes about wish hours to get up to my condo. Usually I go to bed at 8:30 because that is when I am not extremely tired, but not too awake, and in between. I'll be getting up there around 10 so I will probably be too tired to wake up at all during the night :/.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sydney
Anyways, good luck tonight!
Well I hope everything works out for you! Good luck to you as well :)
Eh, no luck. I woke up at different times this time. I went to bed at 9:15 the day before (when I reported waking up) and 9:15 last night. But last night I woke up at 1 instead of 12, and 2:30 instead of 2.
It's weird, because when I'm fully aware that I have woken up, I'm in mid-movement.
So still working on that it seems. :/
When I'm aware that I'm awake, it's normally when I JUST wake up
I'm annoyed right now. I am at my dads condo, and I have to share a room with my two sisters and it sucks... Usually I go to bed at 8:30-8:45 and get some recall, etc. I got to bed at 9:15 last night because my sisters wouldn't go to sleep :(. I remembered a bunch of fragments of dreams, but couldn't take my computer out to write them down otherwise it would have woken up my sisters :(. Then I remembered right at the end of one dream I randomly decided to do an RC, and when I knew I was dreaming I thought "Wow, that was all one dream?" I did wake up a couple times with my eyes closed, but not perfectly still. Last night it seemed as if all my dreams were light and not good dreams, so when I woke up I would sit up or flail my arms or something D:. I can only get good results to attempt to DEILD if I go to bed at 8:30, but it is impossible at my dads house, unless I want to get woken up right after I fall asleep :panic:.